View source for DevTools/2012-09-06

== Meeting Details ==

* Thursday Sep 6, 2012 - 10:00am Pacific, 1:00pm Eastern, 17:00 UTC
* 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 99459
* 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 99459 (US)
* Vidyo room link: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=kJp7HpENLMjj
* [irc://irc.mozilla.org/devtools #devtools on irc.mozilla.org] for backchannel

== Standups ==

* Tanvi
** CSP Warn -> CSP Error
*** https://twitter.com/RSnake/status/243031087633293314
*** https://twitter.com/RSnake/status/243032661784932352
*** https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607067
** Error console

* Rob
** Off for a week

* Mihai
** web console remoting patch part 2 (window.console API and JS evaluation) updates based on reviews from Panos. also completed part 3 (network logging). started work on part 4 (some cleanups - remove HUDService-content.js and any message manager-related code).
** will also do part 5 which will add new tests for the new web console actors, in toolkit.
** will start an etherpad to document what i did for the web console remoting - the actors, the new protocol changes, the rationale for the decisions taken, etc.
*** will also propose some changes/improvements to make the new actors more reusable for other components in firefox and extensions.
*** will want feedback as much as possible and as soon as possible!

* Optimizer
** Completed a leftover patch for reverting to last saved state in Scratchpad. r+ and ready to land.
** Patches that are incoming in couple of days:
*** Copying screenshot to clipboard command (bug 788890)
*** Request and response bodies menu item more discoverable (bug 704983).
** Timeline RDP implementation complete in a separate branch "RDP". Will merge with master as soon as Panos's patch lands for bug 753401.

* Nick
** Updated sources-over-protocol as per Panos' review comments
** Still working on fixing mochitests that have broken in the process

* Paul
** bug 768442 landed (placehoder for sidebar inside a tab)
** inspector killswitch now only hide the context menu item
** fixed a couple of highlighter regressions

* Honza
** Firebug 1.10.3 reviewed, available on AMO
*** https://blog.getfirebug.com/2012/09/03/firebug-1-10-3/
** JSD2 in progress, first working scenario
*** First working scenario: http://www.janodvarko.cz/firebug/jsd2/tests/stepping.html
*** Still a lot of open questions
*** Current focus: geting objects from the server, use JS proxy on the client?
*** Important thing for Firebug will be ability to extend existing (debugger) actors

* Panos
** extension API patch is ready, just waiting on feedback from Jim. Doing some b2g-related followup work for the profiler
** patch to display statically-inferred names for anonymous functions
** reviews for Mihai's web console remoting and Nick's sources over protocol patches (debugging a B2G device works!)

* Espadrine:
** crash fix for CSS parsing
** unicode in the style editor yet again! (landed)
** autocompletion in the scratchpad: using the WebConsole's popup

* Kevin
** Two new posts on Hacks
*** Aurora 17 developer tools: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/09/html-editing-and-other-improvements-in-firefox-17-developer-tools/
*** Firefox command line: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2012/08/new-firefox-command-line-helps-you-develop-faster/
**** 60 comments on the blog post
**** 40,000+ views on YouTube (245 likes vs. 7 dislikes)
**** front page of Hacker News as well: http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4456420
** Paul spotted a JSTerm article on Webmonkey: http://www.webmonkey.com/2012/09/supercharge-your-javascript-development-with-jsterm-for-firefox/
** We're working on competitive positioning and helping with requirements for the DevHub http://marketplace.mozilla.org/developers/
** initial app template plan is to include Bootstrap (customized), but we will likely also offer a web components-based template on an experimental basis

* Brian
** UI Framework in progress: http://www.briandils.com/mozilla/FFxDevTools-Wireframes-v1.2.pdf
** Page 4 is a little confusing...it's an example of a floating panel. Next iteration I'll add more notes to the mockups

* Joe
** We have the basics of an API through which the developer tools window will work
*** https://etherpad.mozilla.org/devtools-framework-jsm
*** Also: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/devtools-glossary
** NEW fuzzy matcher in GCLI
** NEW testing framework landed. Will auto-create test cases for you

* Heather
** about to put light theme up for review \o/

== Roundtable ==

* Joe:
** Promise is being weird. Why.

* Paul:
** Did you know about `make chrome`?
*** On Mac:
**** time (make -C browser chrome && make -C browser/app)
**** is twice faster than
**** time (make -C browser);

* CSP Warn vs Error

* Plans for the Meetup. Fill in the blanks:
** https://etherpad.mozilla.org/devtools-septmeetup
** https://intranet.mozilla.org/DevTools/London/Sept2012