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** How should we change the cycle?
** How should we change the cycle?
** morgamic's idea: 10 days dev time, 3 days QA time, push, 2 days planning/down time during/after push, repeat
** morgamic's idea: 10 days dev time, 3 days QA time, push, 2 days planning/down time during/after push, repeat
** Ideas
* Ideas
*** Push on a Tuesday instead - so code freeze thursday and push Tuesday instead
** Push on a Tuesday instead - so code freeze thursday and push Tuesday instead
*** Bugs in there can be very vague, so we should spend more time making things more specific or planning larger bugs into smaller pieces
** Bugs in there can be very vague, so we should spend more time making things more specific or planning larger bugs into smaller pieces
** Examples - discussions and shadow database traffic - put bugs into small enough pieces so it's realistic to hit them for certain milestones
* Testing
* Testing
** Need to start writing tests
** Need to start writing tests
** Not going to make eveyrone go back and write tests retro-actively
** Not going to make everyone go back and write tests retro-actively
** However, we should focus more on writing simple tests (installation tests, syntax error checks, acceptance tests) for most of what we do
** However, we should focus more on writing simple tests (installation tests, syntax error checks, acceptance tests) for most of what we do
** Thoughts on how to "enforce" test writing?
** Thoughts on how to "enforce" test writing?
* Jacob!
* Ideas
** Test suite sucks -- split up between controllers and models and views and sometimes it doesn't even work
** Sometimes you have to use the view to test the controller
** Initial staring into the headlights -- not sure where to write tests for AMO
** We should clarify if we should change to PHPUnit or stay on SimpleTest
** Test suite is large and runs out of memory a lot -- would be nice to not have that many
** Should investigate switching from SimpleTest to PHPUnit
* Jacob
** Test cluster update
** Test cluster update
** SSO update and discussion
** SSO update and discussion
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