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== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==


* Who's taking minutes?
* Who's taking minutes: Gozer


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
==== Open ====
==== Open ====
* davida: file a bug on getting an announcements feed going on
* davida: file a bug on getting an announcements feed going on]
* davida: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com
* everyone: look for delight bugs for the next release, put [delight] in status whiteboard
* everyone: look for delight bugs for the next release, put [delight] in status whiteboard


==== Closed ====
==== Closed ====
* dmose: will send out email scheduling drivers meeting for 9:30 Thursday
* dmose: will send out email scheduling drivers meeting for 9:30 Thursday
* davida: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com {{bug|449252}}


=== [[Thunderbird:Shredder a2]] ===
=== [[Thunderbird:Shredder a2]] ===
* Post Mortem needs scheduling
* Post Mortem took too long to schedule, cancelled
** who needs to be there?  davida, wswmk, nthomas, gozer, standard8, emre, dmose, ____?
* Next time around, include it in the release schedule
** nthomas unavailability unknown
** davida to send out email, hopefully this week


=== Thunderbird 3 ===
=== Thunderbird 3 ===
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=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1]] ===
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1]] ===


* '''One weeks''' to planned code freeze (9th September)
* '''One week''' to planned code freeze (9th September)
* '''Today is''' planned string freeze for 3.0b1 (2nd September)
* '''Today is''' planned string freeze for 3.0b1 (2nd September)
* Blockers/Wanted:
** {{trackinglist|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%2B|---|}}:
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}:
*** Note: spread across two lists, some dups, not all of these are hard-blockers.
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}:
* {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1?|---|}}:
*** Needs QA


* Fixed:
* wsmwk is the QA lead of Beta 1
** {{trackinglist|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%2B|FIXED|}}:  
* Standard8 is the release driver
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}:
 
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}:
* Ended up pushing the schedule by 2 weeks:
** '''Three week''' to planned code freeze (23th September)
** '''Two week''' planned string freeze for 3.0b1 (16th September)
 
The schedule will be updated accordingly


* wsmwk is the Q&A lead of Beta 1
* [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0b1|3.0b1 Tracking Document]]
* Standard8 is the release driver


==== Main Issues ====
==== L10N builds/String Freeze ====


''This section still includes items from last week, Standard8 will update''
* L10N builds:
** SeaMonkey and Firefox now have some level of L10N builds for testers
** Firefox has compare-locales and L10N dashboard
** Thunderbird potentially has compare-locales once editor/ui moves (next couple of days)
** [http://developer.mozilla.org/En/L10n_on_Mercurial devmo (L10n on Mercurial)] now has instructions for comm-central as well as mozilla-central.
** Gozer will adapt SeaMonkey's L10N buildbot config to our own


* davida pointed out that pace seems slow
* String Freeze - Main bugs:
** what happens if we don't get enough wanted bugs?
*** go forward as planned
*** insert milestone (and rename?)
*** bug owners requested to
**** update status whiteboard of blocking & wanted bugs
**** focus on bugs with string changes
*** drivers to discuss further thursday
* 3 blockers with no owner:
** {{Bug|429118}} Thunderbird inline spell check broken
** {{Bug|430762}} Start page for Alpha/Beta builds - is this a dup?
*** davida & Standard8 to discuss post meeting
** {{Bug|451257}} Using "Edit as new" for random messages sometimes crashes Thunderbird [@ pixman_malloc_abc]
*** hopefully crash-stats return in the next week or two will give us insight here
* L10N builds at risk:
** mozilla-central currently has no automated L10N builds
** Uncertain as to current capability to do L10N builds for Thunderbird
** No instructions for L10N builds from comm-central
** no L10N dashboard (i.e. compare locales)
** if the infrastructure doesn't come together, should skip string freeze and possibly l10n builds for this milestone rather than slipping
** davida/kairo will keep an eye on l10n discussion in Fx product meeting
* String Freeze - Are we on course to get string changes in for next week?
** Account Configuration {{bug|422814}}
** Account Configuration {{bug|422814}}
*** At the very least, cert-auth is at risk
*** No reviews posted yet
*** might be ready in a week -- DavidA
** Password Manager {{bug|239131}}
** Password Manager {{bug|239131}}
*** May not make it, although FF password manager should already be localised for most folks, the preference pane changes are still outstanding.
*** Still a lot of work to do.
*** At least one good week -- Standard8
** Gloda {{bug|450494}}
** Gloda {{bug|450494}}
*** davida: relatively few strings, need to be concerned about UI for upgrading
*** davida: relatively few strings, need to be concerned about UI for upgrading
** Inline card dialog {{bug|450724}}
** Inline card dialog {{bug|450724}} patches:
*** Standard8: on track
**# Mechanics: awaiting clarkbw's approval
**# Inline Edit dialog: requested reviews (philor, clarkbw), but need to resolve one issue
**# Add-on-click: patches ready, awaiting reviews
**# Star UI: prototyped, need to do proper version.
** Improved Message Reader View {{bug|449691}}
** Improved Message Reader View {{bug|449691}}
*** dmose: mostly on track, some risk, looks to be easy to split and land partially
*** No patches for review yet. Don't know how many strings are to be changed.
** Offline Data Storage Pref Screen {{bug|369096}} (??)
 
==== Blockers / Wanted Bugs ====
 
* Blockers/Wanted:
** {{trackinglist|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%2B|---|}}: 19
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}: 9
*** Note: spread across two lists, some dups, not all of these are hard-blockers.
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|---|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}: 14
* {{trackinglist|Proposed Blockers|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1?|---|}}:
 
* Fixed:
** {{trackinglist|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+|blocking-thunderbird3.0b1%2B|FIXED|}}: 8
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - blocking|blocking-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}: 11
** {{trackinglist|TB 3.0b1 - wanted|wanted-thunderbird3%2B|FIXED|Thunderbird%203.0b1}}: 6
 
* 3 blockers with no owner:
** {{Bug|429118}} Thunderbird inline spell check broken
*** This has a proposal for fixing it, needs someone to implement/test
** {{Bug|408370}} STEEL
** {{Bug|437056}} run a message filter on a folder - "choose this folder" option missing, can't run on folders with subfolders
*** Needs an updated patch.
** {{Bug|452832}} drag and drop multiple messages between folders fails (moves only one)
*** Has suggested fix
* High priority bugs not referenced above:
** {{bug|360648}} TB toolkit autocomplete migration
*** Waiting on one review from Beltzner
*** LDAP code needs doing.


=== QA Updates ===
=== QA Updates ===
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Thunderbird&datasets=UNCONFIRMED%3A good bugday last week], such that [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Thunderbird&datasets=NEW%3A&datasets=ASSIGNED%3A&datasets=REOPENED%3A&datasets=UNCONFIRMED%3A&datasets=FIXED%3A&datasets=DUPLICATE%3A&datasets=WORKSFORME%3A&datasets=INCOMPLETE%3A NEW and UNCONFIRMED are almost touching]
* last week focus began on [[Thunderbird:PatchLove|Patch Love]]
** [http://tinyurl.com/5b4hct last bug comment less than 800 days ago] at 116 bugs, down by 11 from 127 bugs
** [http://tinyurl.com/6gg49r all bugs] at 229 bugs, down by 12 from 241 bugs
** [http://tinyurl.com/67kedz all patches that require string changes] at 45 bugs, down by 8 from 53 bugs)
* Discussions occurring in m.d.planning about improving [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_frm/thread/80a8f074ab137f10# Bugzilla Workflow] and [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_frm/thread/475b350563a7ad59# general Bugzilla Improvements] (a sub-topic of BMO Reorg Phase 2)


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===
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===== dmose =====
===== dmose =====
* message view work
* reviewed switch of email User-Agent header to use the full Gecko user-agent ({{bug|230182}})
* started work to try and make chromebug usable in tb
* bug triage & driving work (2.0.0.17 approvals, etc.)


===== nth10sd =====
===== nth10sd =====
* More bug triage, bugdays etc.
* +1 to [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/475b350563a7ad59/9188dfdb8d563e3c#msg_6dfa778543c938d1 jcranmer's post] on mozilla.dev.planning about TB bug number stats..
* Yes, UNCO bug numbers are [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Thunderbird&datasets=UNCONFIRMED%3A&datasets=NEW%3A&datasets=ASSIGNED%3A&datasets=REOPENED%3A still going down]... :)
* Post-meeting edit: Spread Thunderbird [http://archive-sfx.spreadfirefox.com/node/2528 first envisioned] on October 3rd 2004. :D
** Back then, Firefox was just 0.10.1, and Thunderbird, 0.8


===== jcranmer =====
===== jcranmer =====
* Updated IMAP fakeserver patch, currently tracking down problems
* AB refactoring awaiting dmose's review
* {{bug|311774}} (one of 2 major news unread bugs) complete except for tests


===== Standard8 =====
===== Standard8 =====
* Reviews & Driving
* Build
** {{Bug|451981}} Added a package-compare target and got gozer to hook it up to tinderboxes - we can now reasonably easily see if we're missing packaging items into the windows build (useful for a pre-release check).
** {{Bug|453110}} Started updating the packaging file...
* L10N
** Added to the instruction pages for L10N builds.
** {{Bug|445146}} Moving editor/ui to comm-central.
* Password Manager
** {{Bug|419595}} nsLDAPURL update (still needs one more update)
* Inline Edit Card Dialog
** {{Bug|452614}} Provide nsIAbCard::hasEmailAddress
** {{Bug|453301}} Provide a function to add a single contact to the collected address book.
** {{Bug|450724}} Three patches now posted, last one to actually add the star to be done.
* Misc
** {{Bug|451257}} Composing a message after the contacts sidebar was closed sometimes crashes Thunderbird.
** {{Bug|452419}} Message Header display shouldn't get the show references pref for each item of the header displayed.


===== asuth =====
===== asuth =====
* (light week)
* first batch of gloda unit tests basically ready; need to alter code to not use settimeout in the unit test case...
* got "exptoolbar" working with minimal required changes to thunderbird (just need toolkit autocomplete turned on).  Gloda now feeds a search db view, works quite nicely.  (This is the "bubble" stuff).


===== bienvenu =====
===== bienvenu =====
* Reviews and Driving
* fix truncated message pop3 download for global inbox, {{bug|450649}}
* Continued work on auto config;
* maintain kewyords on imap detach/delete if server supports keywords, {{bug|440366}}
* fix edit cut/copy/paste/delete menu items {{bug|448326}}
*  fix crash in debug builds downloading pop3 mail into global inbox, {{bug|452521}}
*  fix offline tag change playback {{bug|141606}}


===== emre =====
===== emre =====
* Worked on
** {{bug|436615}}: submitted, in review process
** {{bug|452615}}: submitted, in review process
* Working on
** {{bug|440794}}: Async send operation
** {{bug|439089}}: Auto-compacting


===== gozer =====
===== gozer =====
* The Calendar folks have a few test accounts on our test Zimbra server
* Got package-compare running on the nightlies {{bug|451981}}
* OSX buildsymbols should now be complete and cover universal binaries {{bug|448616}}
* Started testing Lightning/gdata comm-central build setup
* Mock [http://live.mozillamessaging.com/thunderbird/start start page] server is up and running
* Need to setup staging/prod www infrastructure
** davida: How does it currently work ?
** Ready to switch over www.mozillamessaging.com
* We are running our own e-mail now
** Nobody should have noticed!
** Good side-effect is that our production blades are now in a full HA config
** Still need to get MoCo's to set themselves up as our secondary MXes
* <i>Real-life disruptions should be over</i>


===== clarkbw =====
===== clarkbw =====
* A bunch of Preferences Bug work w/ Patches
** [[User:Clarkbw/Preferences]]
** {{bug|452909}} &mdash; remove the shredder start page preference from the general tab
** {{bug|452890}} &mdash; move System Defaults from General to Advanced -> General
** {{bug|452711}} &mdash; use firefox default font chooser for display
** {{bug|451620}} &mdash; remove the Advanced Preference for Connection timeout
* Started on
** [[Thunderbird:Menus]]
* Getting back to
** {{bug|123440}} &mdash; annoying connection error dialogs
*** [[Thunderbird:Connection Errors]]
** {{bug|231654}} &mdash; Key combos wrt folder pane
** {{bug|271589}} &mdash; popups accumulate if they are not canceled
** [[Thunderbird:Calendar Integration]]


===== wsmwk =====
===== wsmwk =====
* Triaged all bugs with patches mscott r? and sr? - all bugs have been touched or patch owner contacted.  Was ~30-35 reviews, now down to [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/request.cgi?action=queue&requester=&product=&type=all&requestee=mscott%40mozilla.org&component=&group=type 13 bugs in the review list]
* Created and kicked off [[Thunderbird:PatchLove|Patch Love]]
* Bugday and triage
* Marked [delight] bugs


===== beckley =====
===== beckley =====
* My filter only selected messages in a mailbox was reviewed and checked in {{bug|444209}}
* My redirect feature was accepted and checked in {{bug|359226}}
* Commented on how new message notification works in Classic Eudora {{bug|11040}}
* Reviewed Sid's Vista Search Integration patch {{bug|430614}}
* A new [http://hg.mozilla.org/penelope/ hg repository for Penelope] has been created, and now just needs to be populated with the code in CVS {{bug|451402}}
* Fixed a build problem for DOM Inspector when working with read-only source code setups {{bug|452851}}
* Helped review some code for some Penelope devs submitting bugs {{bug|451438}}
* Will be fixing a filter import bug this week for beta 1 {{bug|432851}}


===== KaiRo =====
===== KaiRo =====
* Ported some build system fixes to comm-central {{bug|452504}}
* Fixed relative l10n-base dir ({{bug|452760}}), make install ({{bug|452962}}), basic building of the Qt port ({{bug|450957}}), and autoconf 2.13 detection  ({{bug|450967}}) - no need to declare the AUTOCONF environment variable with the usual binary names any more, not even on Debian or ubuntu.
* Did some cleanup of old code from the XPFE era
* Got most of the things to run for creating SeaMonkey L10n builds with out buildbots, porting this to Thunderbird buildbots configs should be easy


===== rkent =====
===== rkent =====


===== rebron =====
===== rebron =====
* Put together [[Marketing:Thunderbird_Roadmap|marketing roadmap]]
* Working on web site redesign, wrapped up the rfp.
* Put plan for together for SpreadThunderbird.
* Got the pr plan reviewed, pr activities in motion.
* Working on start page content.
===== mkmelin =====
* Working on {{bug|231654}} - make delete normally only apply to the threadpane - too easy to accidentally delete folder
* {{bug|234665}} [avaiting review] - Delete button should re-text to "Undelete" when a deleted message is selected
* {{bug|305089}} [avaiting review] - Don't mark as scam any mail composed by user (Drafts, Templates, Sent, Outbox folders)
* {{bug|452661}} - the scam detector doesn't work anymore


=== Attendees ===
=== Attendees ===


gozer, dmose, sipaq, beckley, bienvenu, nth10sd, wsmwk, emre, asuth, clarkbw, KaiRo, rebron, Standard8


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