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'''NEW'''
'''NEW'''
* [Website] Need to check all website links (e.g. Document History) now point to the correct place - Jens?
* [Websites] Need to check all website links now point to the correct place.
** http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/ "and the SeaMonkey blog" leads to mozillaZine, should lead to https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/
**  Rainer Bielefeld has filed {{Bug|1161896}} to address this issue.
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'''OPEN'''
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* {{bug|1121281}} tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS.  Currently two option patches awaiting for Callek's decision. Once settled, ewong will follow up with RelEng patches based on that decision.
* {{bug|1121281}} tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS.  Currently two option patches awaiting for Callek's decision. Once settled, ewong will follow up with RelEng patches based on that decision.
'''CLOSED'''
'''CLOSED'''
* Website Document History fixed in {{Bug|1159225}} by '''InvisibleSmiley'''
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=== Random news ===
=== Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree ===
=== Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree ===
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* Notes:
* Notes:
** Windows nightly trunk builds <s>are</s>were running again briefly (thanks to Callek and Ewong) but are down again due to {{Bug|1108970}}. Migrating our [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114876 Windows builders to VS2013] would likely solve this and other bustages.
** Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as {{Bug|1092468}} and {{Bug|1108970}}. Migrating our [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114876 Windows builders to Win2008] and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
** VS2010 support was removed from mozilla-central on 15th December ({{Bug|1092468}}). Our Windows slaves are in the process of being upgraded to Win2008 and VS2013 ({{Bug|1114876}}). There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 ({{bug|1107635}}).
** Ratty has offered to put up some win32 contributed builds. Just need to put them somewhere where they can be downloaded.
** Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2014-09-16#Agenda|Friends of the Fish Tank]]. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla. '''''Edit:''' However, only 9 languages are published daily for trunk there, and en-GB is not one of them. For Aurora I didn't check. — [[User:Tonymec|Tonymec]] ([[User talk:Tonymec|talk]]) 16:49, 21 January 2015 (PST)''
** There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 ({{bug|1107635}}).
** Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2014-09-16#Agenda|Friends of the Fish Tank]]. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
** {{Bug|1083689}} Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren't uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
** {{Bug|1083689}} Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren't uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
** '''Should be fixed. Waiting for verification'''. The langpacks need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30 '''KaiRo has landed a fix in''' {{Bug|1084258}} (Language pack compatibility should be bound to Gecko branch, else undefined entity errors possible).
** Language Packs need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30 '''KaiRo has landed a fix in''' {{Bug|1084258}} (Language pack compatibility should be bound to Gecko branch, else undefined entity errors possible).
** For various reasons we don't have a working SeaMonkey <s>TBPL</s>Treeherder.
** For various reasons we don't have a working SeaMonkey <s>TBPL</s>Treeherder.
** SeaMonkey's release/website processes have been migrated to Mercurial.
** SeaMonkey's release/website processes have been migrated to Mercurial.
** wrt {{bug|1155011}}, we already have a Soccoro token.  The patches require approval and then
** wrt {{bug|1155011}}, we already have a Soccoro token.  The patches require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
pushed and the work-around patches backed out.


* [12th May 2015]
* [12th May 2015]
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** [comm-central]:
** [comm-central]:
*** All platforms are red due to {{bug|777770}}. ewong is currently working on it.
*** All platforms are red due to {{bug|777770}}.


* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.
* In [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902876#c12 Bug 902876 Comment 12] Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.


<!-- ==== Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting ====
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* No scheduled ETA for 2.35 beta 1 yet - depends on fixing {{bug|1114876}}
* No scheduled ETA for 2.35 beta 1 yet - depends on fixing {{bug|1114876}}
** Need to look at possibility of a further 2.33.x release if no 2.35
** Need to look at possibility of a further 2.33.x release if no 2.35
** there were 15 [https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/#firefox37.0.1 security fixes] (5 of which critical) in the Gecko 37 cycle
** there were 15 [https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/known-vulnerabilities/firefox/#firefox37.0.1 security fixes] (5 of which critical) in the Gecko 37 cycle.
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* '''IanN thinks we need to seriously consider accepting contributed win32 builds in order to get SeaMonkey 2.35 out the door.
** Thunderbird 38.0 is scheduled for May 26. [IanN] we'll be aiming to get 2.35 for the same time scale as the Thunderbird release.
* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]
** merge day was 11 May as scheduled
** merge day was 11 May as scheduled


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*** Workaround: Install the [http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784 Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013]
*** Workaround: Install the [http://www.microsoft.com/en-us/download/details.aspx?id=40784 Visual C++ Redistributable Packages for Visual Studio 2013]
* The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird. Related bugs:
* The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird. Related bugs:
** {{Bug|516026}} Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
** {{Bug|1130854}} Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
** {{Bug|1130854}} Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
** {{Bug|1113183}} Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
** {{Bug|1113183}} Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
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** Ratty suggests embedding these graphs somewhere on [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ seamonkey-projects.org] or [https://dev.seamonkey.at/ https://dev.seamonkey.at]
** Ratty suggests embedding these graphs somewhere on [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ seamonkey-projects.org] or [https://dev.seamonkey.at/ https://dev.seamonkey.at]
** {{Bug|1133728}} Look at embedding dataviz information into the SeaMonkey website.
** {{Bug|1133728}} Look at embedding dataviz information into the SeaMonkey website.
** '''Links are broken again. Dataviz views now needs a SSO login. We need to find out how to expose a limited view for public consumption.'''
<!--* 2.16 had ~X ADU by Tuesday 12th March and has had ~Y downloads so far.
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** Of the released versions, as of Tuesday 12th March, we have A% on 2.0, B% on 2.1-2.3, C% on 2.4-2.6, D% on 2.7-2.9, E% on 2.10-2.12, F% on 2.13, G% on 2.14, H% on 2.15 and I% on 2.16.-->
** Of the released versions, as of Tuesday 12th March, we have A% on 2.0, B% on 2.1-2.3, C% on 2.4-2.6, D% on 2.7-2.9, E% on 2.10-2.12, F% on 2.13, G% on 2.14, H% on 2.15 and I% on 2.16.-->
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* Current breakages:
* Current breakages:
** {{Bug|995737}} adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
** {{Bug|995737}} Adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property. Have reviewed patch. Waiting for sr/moa from Mnyromyr.
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** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.
*** Neil has a WIP patch on hand.


=== Feature List, Planning ===
=== Feature List, Planning ===
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**  We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. MoCo will not allow us to use FxAccounts (the new Sync API). One possibility is to set up our own Sync 1.5 server on a Community machine.
**  We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. MoCo will not allow us to use FxAccounts (the new Sync API). One possibility is to set up our own Sync 1.5 server on a Community machine.
** Bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
** Bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
=== Discussion Points ===
From Rainer Bielefeld:
Hi, I will not be able to participate. It would be great if you could do some talks and decisions concering:
* [[SeaMonkey:Own Sync]]: I think there should be a public statement from SeaMonkey Project for people using Sync
* [[SeaMonkey:Tasks & Projects/Add-On Converter Button]]: Ideas, concerns, whatever, .... Do we have a "go" for ''[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&from=-14d&who=michal-ok%40o2.pl lemon juice]'' to start a fix for ''{{Bug|1145026 }}- AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane'' that way?
* I am thinking about possibilities how to improve donation for SeaMonkey. In Germany Flattr is not a mass phenomenon, but rather popular, because it allows donation with a single mouse click. I am not too optimistic, I owuld be glad to gett 100€ in the first year. I would be able and willing to manage a SeaMonkey Flattr account.
** But in advance I would like to provide short public "statement of accounts" for the current donations. How much did SeaMonkey get 2013, 2014 with current donation system (PayPal)? How has the money been used? Some more info concerning SeaMonkey e.V.?
From Ratty:
* Ewong is currently trying to set up a FxA (Sync 1.5) server. If this works we need somewhere to host the FxA server. Possibilities: (1) Mozilla community machine. (2) We set up a VPS to host (2a) [http://osuosl.org/services/hosting OSU Open Source Lab] is free if we meet their criteria.
** Can someone help port the client code from Firefox?
* Enhanced SeaMonkey support with AMO.
** I really like Rainer & Lemon Juice proposal for an extension shipped with SeaMonkey that adds additional buttons when browsing addons.mozilla.org. Also see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1145026#c15 Bug 1145026 Comment 15] for the initial discussion.
* Overlay the addon manager's discovery pane with a short description and link to the Addons Converter webpage ({{Bug|1151227}}). This differs from the first option in that it's a smaller change, that just overlays the XUL rather than injecting content into the discovery pane browser. This would be part of SeaMonkey code, not an extension. We could do both of course.


=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates ===
=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates ===
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==== IanN ====
==== IanN ====
* Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
* Fixed:
** {{Bug|773349}} Port |{{Bug|370750}} - Add MOCHITESTS_DIR magic to config/rules.mk| and |{{Bug|920223}} - Mass convert MOCHITEST_* variables to manifests| to SeaMonkey
** {{Bug|1155290}} stop using XULAPP_DEFINES for suite/debugQA/
** {{Bug|1158774}} Port |{{Bug|1155776}} - move USE_EXTENSION_MANIFEST to moz.build| to comm-central - Calendar Port
** {{Bug|1159775}} Port |{{Bug|870891}} - Move DIST_FILES to moz.build| to comm-central - SeaMonkey part
** {{Bug|1159775}} Port |{{Bug|870891}} - Move DIST_FILES to moz.build| to comm-central - Instantbird part
* Fixed for c-c:
* Fixed for m-c:
* Fixed for m-i:
* Pending check in:
* Checked in pending review:
* Waiting for feedback/review/information:
** {{Bug|1158774}} Port |{{Bug|1155776}} - move USE_EXTENSION_MANIFEST to moz.build| to comm-central - Remove app-config.mk
** {{Bug|1061348}} Port |{{Bug|575283}} - Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
* Fixing review comments before checkin:
** {{Bug|757230}} When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
** {{Bug|798147}} Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
* Working on:
** {{Bug|1051642}} Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
** {{Bug|943335}} [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
** Various SM Council documents.
** {{Bug|606683}} Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
** {{Bug|639690}} [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
** {{Bug|773979}} [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
** {{Bug|657234}} Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
** File/Folder selection in windows.
* To Do:
** {{Bug|639395}} Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
** Prefs-in-a-tab.
** Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
** Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.
==== InvisibleSmiley ====
==== InvisibleSmiley ====
==== KaiRo ====
==== KaiRo ====
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==== Mnyromyr ====
==== Mnyromyr ====
==== Neil ====
==== Neil ====
Needs comm-aurora uplift:
* {{Bug|1156017}} Can't save web site passwords from doorhanger.
Needs comm-aurora and comm-beta uplift:
* {{Bug|1156088}} Doorhangers display useless "Learn more..." link when using the Modern theme.
Working on:
* {{Bug|888915}} Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm.
Waiting for review:
* {{Bug|1098350}} Need to refactor SeaMonkey Preferences and UI because {{Bug|530209}} replaced the browser.urlbar.default.behavior preference with a more flexible scheme (trunk patch).
Still waiting for review:
* {{Bug|970993}} Aero Peek rendering issues.
==== Px ====
==== Px ====
==== Rainer Bielefeld ====
==== Rainer Bielefeld ====
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* [Moved to Discussion section above]
* [Moved to Discussion section above]
==== Ratty ====
==== Ratty ====
TODO:
* Packaging updates.
* Safe Browsing updates.
* Addon-SDK compatibility functions (CustomizableUI, etc).
Working on:
* {{Bug|1145519}} toggleSidebar shortcut command is broken in SeaMonkey for Firefox-style sidebars.
* {{Bug|1153577}} Users should be able to hide the menubar and show it with the ALT key.
Waiting for check-in on CLOSED TREE
* {{Bug|995737}} Adapt seamonkey for the addressbook remote content policy change; use the permission manager instead of address book property.
* {{Bug|1158496}} JavaScript error: .../nsSuiteGlue.js, line 291: NS_NOINTERFACE: Component returned failure code: 0x80004002 (NS_NOINTERFACE) [nsIWebProgress.DOMWindow].
* {{Bug|1160500}} Follow up to {{Bug|1157433 When content disposition information isn't available in the cache for an image the user right clicks, don't spew the console.
* {{Bug|1160565}} Package FormAutofillStartup.js
Fixed:
* {{Bug|1157433}} The Addon-SDK expects gContextMenuContentData to exist in the context menu code.
* {{Bug|1160647}} Port |{{Bug|1159972}} - Remove the fallible version of PL_DHashTableInit()| to comm-central.
* {{Bug|1160770}} Unnecessary return in tabScrolling property in XPFE autocomplete.xml.
* {{Bug|1163331}} Remove PL_NewDHashTable() and PL_DHashTableDestroy() from /mailnews/.
Other stuff:
* Did some reviews and approvals.
* Bug triage and Bug discussions.
* Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and [http://forums.mozillazine.org/ Mozillazine].
==== rsx11m ====
==== rsx11m ====
Checked in on trunk:
Checked in on trunk:
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=== Any other business?  ===
=== Any other business?  ===
From Rainer Bielefeld:
Hi, I will not be able to participate. It would be great if you could do some talks and decisions concering:
* [[SeaMonkey:Own Sync]]: I think there should be a public statement from SeaMonkey Project for people using Sync
* [[SeaMonkey:Tasks & Projects/Add-On Converter Button]]: Ideas, concerns, whatever, .... Do we have a "go" for ''[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&from=-14d&who=michal-ok%40o2.pl lemon juice]'' to start a fix for ''{{Bug|1145026 }}- AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane'' that way?
* I am thinking about possibilities how to improve donation for SeaMonkey. In Germany Flattr is not a mass phenomenon, but rather popular, because it allows donation with a single mouse click. I am not too optimistic, I owuld be glad to gett 100€ in the first year. I would be able and willing to manage a SeaMonkey Flattr account.
** But in advance I would like to provide short public "statement of accounts" for the current donations. How much did SeaMonkey get 2013, 2014 with current donation system (PayPal)? How has the money been used? Some more info concerning SeaMonkey e.V.?
From Ratty:
* Ewong is currently trying to set up a FxA (Sync 1.5) server. If this works we need somewhere to host the FxA server. Possibilities: (1) Mozilla community machine. (2) We set up a VPS to host (2a) [http://osuosl.org/services/hosting OSU Open Source Lab] is free if we meet their criteria.
** Can someone help port the client code from Firefox?
* Enhanced SeaMonkey support with AMO.
** I really like Rainer & Lemon Juice proposal for an extension shipped with SeaMonkey that adds additional buttons when browsing addons.mozilla.org. Also see [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1145026#c15 Bug 1145026 Comment 15] for the initial discussion.
** IanN agrees with Ratty on the Rainer / Lemon Juice proposal.
* Overlay the addon manager's discovery pane with a short description and link to the Addons Converter webpage ({{Bug|1151227}}). This differs from the first option in that it's a smaller change, that just overlays the XUL rather than injecting content into the discovery pane browser. This would be part of SeaMonkey code, not an extension. We could do both of course.
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