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*Change default behaviour on selecting messages to only open the message/mark it read on double click.  Makes dealing with suspicious messages easier without losing functionality (ie: javascript powered auto-infectors).  As well improves user experience for moving/managing emails without marking them as read.
*Change default behaviour on selecting messages to only open the message/mark it read on double click.  Makes dealing with suspicious messages easier without losing functionality (ie: javascript powered auto-infectors).  As well improves user experience for moving/managing emails without marking them as read.
== Save on Send ==
Before anything else, Thunderbird should save an e-mail as a draft before sending it. Once the mail has been sent, it can be removed. Thunderbird can crash when sending an e-mail, and if it was not saved, then the user's data is lost. Software must not lose user data, when possible.
== Auto Save ==
Make the '''Auto Save''' feature on by default. Set its time to 1 minute. This would probably be the simplest alternative to '''Save on Send'''.


== Mail lifecycle management infrastructure ==
== Mail lifecycle management infrastructure ==
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In the end this architecture should be capable of acting as a '''virtual secretary''' for the user, to be able to '''focus on communication''' and not on "digging" tasks.
In the end this architecture should be capable of acting as a '''virtual secretary''' for the user, to be able to '''focus on communication''' and not on "digging" tasks.


== Specific anti-spam improvments ==
== Specific anti-spam improvements ==


This was touched upon above, but ability to control spam is one of the most important issues now for those using email and is a critical feature. There are plugins for spam control, but the average Thunderbird user will probably not know about them or know how to use them. So here are a few things that would help on the spam front:
This was touched upon above, but ability to control spam is one of the most important issues now for those using email and is a critical feature. There are plugins for spam control, but the average Thunderbird user will probably not know about them or know how to use them. So here are a few things that would help on the spam front:
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* phishing filter functionality from Fx 2.0 utilized to tag emails as junk based on them containing known phishing URLs
* phishing filter functionality from Fx 2.0 utilized to tag emails as junk based on them containing known phishing URLs
:I just stumbled across the mozilla wiki when specifically looking for any efforts to add default encryption support to e-mail programs.  I found the following conversation on [[Talk:Thunderbird:Home Page|what seems to be an orphaned discussion page]] and I think it merits consideration.  As I noted, I consider it something that will eventually impact spam proliferation.  --[[User:Ransage|Ransage]] 16:47, 7 October 2007 (PDT)
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== Default Encryption For Thunderbird ==
I feel very strongly that routine encryption of email is long overdue. The
first time I used email in the late 80's, I was uncomfortable with the total
lack of privacy.  I can't believe this hasn't been solved, yet!
I propose that future releases of Thunderbird incorporate default encryption
and signing of all email throught a peer-to-peer, double-key encryption
system, similar to PGP.
I'm proposing a very simple system, essentially:
1) Thunderbird will include a double-key encryption system
2) Thunderbird-originated emails will include a line "public key available"
3) Thunderbird clients will automatically exchange keys when they spot #2
4) Future messages between the two will automatically be encrypted
Encryption must be ''default'' rather than an optional plug-in or extra
effort if we are finally going to solve the vulnerability of totally open
email.
For this to work, the system has to be simple and what I'm suggesting is
VERY simple: '' After the first email, the Thunderbird clients exchange
public keys. All email after that is encrypted with no effort by the user.''
Can anyone else jump on this bandwagon with me?  I honestly believe that
adding this one feature could have a profoundly positive impact on everything
from commerce to human rights.--Calan 20:49, 5 Jan 2006 (PST)
I agree with you, this feature could be very nice as it would be transparent
for inexperienced users and would put an end to privacy lacks of e-mail. Very
good idea. -- Saimonn 05:06, 10 Feb 2006 (PST)
How difficult would this be?  E.g. if some of us started contributing to a
fund, how many dollars/hours of work would be required to add this upgrade? 
Ideally, it should be set up in such a way that any other client could add
the same feature and the "public key available" and "automatically exchange
keys" features would work across platforms.  I think that this feature in
Thunderbird would motivate competing platforms to add it.  Once encryption
usage reaches a critical mass, then spam should become much less of a problem
(search for spam, cure, and encyrption on google for various discussions). 
I would contribute time or money -- the latter is probably more efficient
in my case if thunderbird developers take money, at least -- to this effort
and I don't generally donate money to anything. 
          --Ransage 16:32, 7 October 2007 (PDT)
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== Office assistant help ==
== Office assistant help ==


I would like to know how to setup out of office assistant in Thunderbird when our email server using IMAP protocol to recieve email.  Our server is using postfix.
I would like to know how to setup out of office assistant in Thunderbird when our email server using IMAP protocol to recieve email.  Our server is using postfix.
:OoOA is an Outlook feature that requires MS Exchange.  Thunderbird does have auto-reply & your email server might have the ability to set a vacation message [http://tbirdhowto.wordpress.com/tag/auto-reply/][http://kb.mozillazine.org/Bouncing_and_automatically_replying_to_messages_-_Thunderbird]


== Address Book ==
== Address Book ==
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I'd like to see an option to connect an account identity to an address book so that automatically entered addresses go to specific address books rather than just the address book that is open.
I'd like to see an option to connect an account identity to an address book so that automatically entered addresses go to specific address books rather than just the address book that is open.
I have hundreds of business contacts and one thing I miss from Outlook, or for that matter Evolution is the ability to insert the contact's picture.


== Outlook Express Import ==
== Outlook Express Import ==
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I can have a signature for French e-mails and another for English ones,
I can have a signature for French e-mails and another for English ones,
one for mailing lists (or one per mailing list!), one for personal messages and one for professional ones, etc. [[User:PhiLho|PhiLho]] 03:50, 13 July 2006 (PDT)
one for mailing lists (or one per mailing list!), one for personal messages and one for professional ones, etc. [[User:PhiLho|PhiLho]] 03:50, 13 July 2006 (PDT)
One for replying to a message would be a benefit.


== Folder Personalization and Control ==
== Folder Personalization and Control ==
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If you want to edit one address, the address book works very well, but if you have changes to make to multiple addresses, you have to export and then import them. I would like to be able to see my addresses in tables (showing whichever columns I chose) and be able to edit in that format rather than editing each one, selecting the proper field and then hitting OK
If you want to edit one address, the address book works very well, but if you have changes to make to multiple addresses, you have to export and then import them. I would like to be able to see my addresses in tables (showing whichever columns I chose) and be able to edit in that format rather than editing each one, selecting the proper field and then hitting OK
I'd like to vote for this and add a desire to sort/filter by the domain name in addresses.


== Downloading messages ==
== Downloading messages ==
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However, the Edit button is also needed for other circumstances, when for example, you just want to use the text of one email in another. Furthermore, if you want to use the attachments sent in one email in another.
However, the Edit button is also needed for other circumstances, when for example, you just want to use the text of one email in another. Furthermore, if you want to use the attachments sent in one email in another.
'''"Edit Message As New" on the "Message" menu'''


== Funambol Mozilla Addressbook Synchronizer ==
== Funambol Mozilla Addressbook Synchronizer ==


A new Funambol plugin has been added to Sourceforge.net. This is the Mozilla Addressbook synchronizer, which enable Mozilla users to synchronize contacts between Mozilla Thunderbird and the Funambol server. This is the first Alpha version, and works with Thunderbird 1.5.0.* on Windows platform only, Linux version will be available soon... You can find the Mozilla plugin here:[http://sourceforge.net/projects/sync4jmozilla/ Funambol Plugin]
A new Funambol plugin has been added to Sourceforge.net. This is the Mozilla Addressbook synchronizer, which enable Mozilla users to synchronize contacts between Mozilla Thunderbird and the Funambol server. This is the first Alpha version, and works with Thunderbird 1.5.0.* on Windows platform only, Linux version will be available soon... You can find the Mozilla plugin here:[http://sourceforge.net/projects/sync4jmozilla/ Funambol Plugin]
== ScheduleWorld Address Book and Calendar Sharing and Synchronization ==
The ScheduleWorld Thunderbird add-on will synchronize the Thunderbird address book. You can also easily share address books with your family and co-workers. If you have Lightning installed you can also sync your calendars and task lists. ScheduleWorld also makes it a snap to sync your data with cell phones, PDAs, or even other people using Outlook or Evolution.
The ScheduleWorld add-on works equally well with Windows, OSX and Linux.
For more information and an easy to use email installation process please visit:
http://wiki.scheduleworld.com/wiki/Thunderbird_Configuration


== Message Filter based on whether or not "To" and "CC" is in an addressbook ==
== Message Filter based on whether or not "To" and "CC" is in an addressbook ==
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Don Dillin
Don Dillin
See [[#Step_4:_Threading.2FGrouping_of_Messages|Major Usability Redesign of Folders & Threads (in 4 Steps)]]


== Message Filter to save attachments to a directory based on sender's adddress ==
== Message Filter to save attachments to a directory based on sender's adddress ==
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I finally got my attachments and embedded images and tunes under control.  I had more than 22,000 of them.  I am now using a tool to manage them so no longer need this particular feature.
I finally got my attachments and embedded images and tunes under control.  I had more than 22,000 of them.  I am now using a tool to manage them so no longer need this particular feature.
What tool can be used to manage attachments?  I have a similar need to process email attachments and save them to an archive for extended period of time.  It would be helpful if the original email could be archived also, but that a link be embedded to the attachments (i.e. process incoming mail, save attachments, include link in email to location of attachments).


== BCC line in message preview ==
== BCC line in message preview ==
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Please tell me what you think
Please tell me what you think
I would like to comment on ITEM 2 above.  I would like to see a general set of tools that allow archiving of email attachments outside of the email client, with some capability to link the original email message back to the archive folders.  As more media is sent via email (and we must archive messages for 3 years), the sizes of inboxes becomes cumbersome.  Better to have the ability to strip out content (regardless of type), save the content to an archive drive, then link that content back to the original email. 
Does anyone have an extension to perform this?  Can an extension be developed (i am not a developer) to satisfy this type of need?


== Crash fix ==
== Crash fix ==
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Right now, TB puts every address in an e-mail on a separate line. This makes it very tedious to work with multiple addresses. There was an example in "Send Again - to a new recipient" above. Another example is that I have lists that I mail to that I sometimes remove certain people for certain emails but want to leave them on the list. Having one long entry would be much easier to edit. If there were a way to put all the addresses together delimited by ";" or something that would be great.
Right now, TB puts every address in an e-mail on a separate line. This makes it very tedious to work with multiple addresses. There was an example in "Send Again - to a new recipient" above. Another example is that I have lists that I mail to that I sometimes remove certain people for certain emails but want to leave them on the list. Having one long entry would be much easier to edit. If there were a way to put all the addresses together delimited by ";" or something that would be great.
==  ==


== Intelligent Transfer ==
== Intelligent Transfer ==
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Hi,
Hi,
it would be great if Tbird prompted for the IM platform in addition to the IM name as it seems to default to AIM.  Including Yahoo, Gmail and MSN would be fabulous.
it would be great if Thunderbird prompted for the IM platform in addition to the IM name as it seems to default to AIM.  Including Yahoo, Gmail and MSN would be fabulous.
Thanks!
Thanks!
Sue
Sue
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[http://www.openchange.org/ Open Source Exchange Server Alternative]
[http://www.openchange.org/ Open Source Exchange Server Alternative]


== Tbird Enhancement Requests ==
== Thunderbird Enhancement Requests ==


Hi,
Hi,
I have taken some time to acquaint myself with the new version of Tbird and am writing to request a few enhancements which will incorporate some features in Eudora which are not yet part of Tbird:
I have taken some time to acquaint myself with the new version of Thunderbird and am writing to request a few enhancements which will incorporate some features in Eudora which are not yet part of Thunderbird:


'''a modular structure.'''  I incrementally back up my data daily.  As I have nearly 4,000 email boxes, if Eudora's email data was in one solid file, that back up would be significantly larger and take much longer to back up.  In the event a TOC file is corrupted, it is easy to delete it and Eudora regenerates it.  If my Tbird email file became corrupted, that could lead to a disaster of significant proportions.
'''a modular structure.'''  I incrementally back up my data daily.  As I have nearly 4,000 email boxes, if Eudora's email data was in one solid file, that back up would be significantly larger and take much longer to back up.  In the event a TOC file is corrupted, it is easy to delete it and Eudora regenerates it.  If my Thunderbird email file became corrupted, that could lead to a disaster of significant proportions.


'''scheduled send.'''  The extension which handled this functionality for earlier versions of Tbird has not been updated and the extensions community reports they haven't heard from its developer in a couple of months.  Ideally, scheduled send should be built into Tbird anyway, as it is in Eudora.  I would request, however, that Tbird store the scheduled messages separately from the draft/unscheduled messages to make it easier to manage them.  It would be great to have these also work with the colorful tabs add on!
'''scheduled send.'''  The extension which handled this functionality for earlier versions of Thunderbird has not been updated and the extensions community reports they haven't heard from its developer in a couple of months.  Ideally, scheduled send should be built into Thunderbird anyway, as it is in Eudora.  I would request, however, that Thunderbird store the scheduled messages separately from the draft/unscheduled messages to make it easier to manage them.  It would be great to have these also work with the colorful tabs add on!


'''Tabbed view.'''  As by now you mostlikely know, Eudora presents mailboxes with new mail, and opened draft items and folders and messages at the bottom of the preview window.  This is immeasurably helpful in navigating the new mail.  Eudora also provides tabbed views of the personality's mailbox repository, a file browser, signatures, stationary, and personalities.  This makes it easy to navigate various product features.  I'd love to see this implemented with the colorful tabs add on.
'''Tabbed view.'''  As by now you most likely know, Eudora presents mailboxes with new mail, and opened draft items and folders and messages at the bottom of the preview window.  This is immeasurably helpful in navigating the new mail.  Eudora also provides tabbed views of the personality's mailbox repository, a file browser, signatures, stationary, and personalities.  This makes it easy to navigate various product features.  I'd love to see this implemented with the colorful tabs add on.
'''
'''
Window view of folders.''' When one right clicks on a mail item and hovers over an existing folder in Eudora, a window pops up with the mailboxes in that folder.  The folder is 7 columns wide.  I use that preview as a guide for knowing when to move some of my key tracking data to the next folder.
Window view of folders.''' When one right clicks on a mail item and hovers over an existing folder in Eudora, a window pops up with the mailboxes in that folder.  The folder is 7 columns wide.  I use that preview as a guide for knowing when to move some of my key tracking data to the next folder.
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'''Send as New - to New Recipient''' - it would be great to have the addressee areas blank as a send as new option
'''Send as New - to New Recipient''' - it would be great to have the addressee areas blank as a send as new option


'''Advanced Filter Management.'''  I am using a program called EuFO to manage my Eudora filters.  I can organize them by folders, and easily arrange the order of those folders within the Eudora filters.  This little program has enabled me to easily identify duplicate and out of date filters, and easily manage the order my filters are processed.  With nearly 300 filters, I'd be beside myself trying to manage them manually.  It would be great if Tbird included a filter management area where filters could be organized by folder in tabs (colored, or course!)
'''Advanced Filter Management.'''  I am using a program called EuFO to manage my Eudora filters.  I can organize them by folders, and easily arrange the order of those folders within the Eudora filters.  This little program has enabled me to easily identify duplicate and out of date filters, and easily manage the order my filters are processed.  With nearly 300 filters, I'd be beside myself trying to manage them manually.  It would be great if Thunderbird included a filter management area where filters could be organized by folder in tabs (colored, or course!)


'''Send Personally.'''  As most of my emails go out to large groups of people, I would love the ability to click a button to have Tbird send those messages with a little text inserted at the top such as Dear Joan...etc.  MapiLabs makes such a tool for Outlook, but I haven't seen anything like this for Tbird.
'''Send Personally.'''  As most of my emails go out to large groups of people, I would love the ability to click a button to have Thunderbird send those messages with a little text inserted at the top such as Dear Joan...etc.  MapiLabs makes such a tool for Outlook, but I haven't seen anything like this for Thunderbird.


I have installed an extension to enable attachment detachment, but as with the modular approach to the mailboxes, it is far preferable to have this feature integrated in the core program.
I have installed an extension to enable attachment detachment, but as with the modular approach to the mailboxes, it is far preferable to have this feature integrated in the core program.
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'''Rationale:''' Any custom folder is a combined incoming/outgoing folder. Why shouldn't this system work for the program's default folders too?
'''Rationale:''' Any custom folder is a combined incoming/outgoing folder. Why shouldn't this system work for the program's default folders too?


[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301084 Bug 301084] is related to this step: The bug requests the option to automatically store replies in the same folder in which the original message is stored in. I'm suggesting the same thing for the default In/Out folders too.
Related is [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=301084 Bug 301084] which requests the option to automatically store replies in the same folder in which the original message is stored in. I'm suggesting the same thing for the default In/Out folders too.
 
This step can be achieved by applying this setting:<br>
Tools > Account Settings > Copies & Folders > Place a copy in: > Other: > Local Folders > Inbox.
<br>So my suggestion is to set this as the default behavior (plus rename "Inbox" to "Main").


=== Step 4: Threading/Grouping of Messages ===
=== Step 4: Threading/Grouping of Messages ===
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'''Problem:''' Currently, threaded messages are treated as exceptions. The message grouping function is ridiculous & unusable.
'''Problem:''' Currently, threaded messages are treated as exceptions. The message grouping function is ridiculous & unusable.


'''Proposed Improvement:''' See these suggestions for Thunderbird 2.0:
'''Proposed Improvements:''' See these three suggestions for Thunderbird 2.0:
<br>[http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Thunderbird:2.0_Product_Planning#Improved_sorting_and_grouping_of_messages Improved sorting and grouping of messages] (points 1. through 4.)
<br>[http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Thunderbird:2.0_Product_Planning#Improved_sorting_and_grouping_of_messages Improved sorting and grouping of messages] (points 1. through 4.)
<br>[http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Thunderbird:2.0_Product_Planning#sorting_messages_by_subject_.28as_thread.29 sorting messages by subject (as thread)] (points (1) through (3))
<br>[http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Thunderbird:2.0_Product_Planning#sorting_messages_by_subject_.28as_thread.29 sorting messages by subject (as thread)] (points (1) through (3))
<br>[http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Thunderbird:2.0_Product_Planning#UI_Liftup_and_stuff UI Liftup and stuff] (point 4.)
<br>[http://wiki.mozilla.org/Talk:Thunderbird:2.0_Product_Planning#UI_Liftup_and_stuff UI Liftup and stuff] (point 4.).
<br>Plus this one here:
<br>[[#Feature_Request:_Editing_SUBJECT_of_received_messages|Feature Request: Editing SUBJECT of received messages]]
<br>[[#Feature_Request:_Editing_SUBJECT_of_received_messages|Feature Request: Editing SUBJECT of received messages]]


'''In short:''' The entire system should work as the folder tree in Windows Explorer: Expand&collapse threads, drag&drop messages, rename subject, and so on.
'''In short:''' The entire system should work as the folder tree in Windows Explorer: Expand&collapse threads, drag&drop messages, rename subject, and so on.


I list this as Step 4 here, because to me, such a grouping/threading feature only makes sense if it encompasses incoming as well as outgoing messages. There's no point in having "parallel" threads in the folders "Inbox" and "Sent".
I list this as Step 4 here because to me such a grouping/threading feature only makes sense if it encompasses incoming as well as outgoing messages. There's no point in having "parallel" threads in the folders "Inbox" and "Sent".


--[[User:ThomasLandauer|ThomasLandauer]] 00:35, 07 July 2007 (PDT)
--[[User:ThomasLandauer|ThomasLandauer]] 07 July 2007


Hey Thomas -- have you put all this information about UI and usage overhaul together? This is not less than MIND-BOGGLING, and should get as much community attention as possible.
Hey Thomas -- have you put all this information about UI and usage overhaul together? This is not less than MIND-BOGGLING, and should get as much community attention as possible.
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Although your article possibly points a long way into the future of e-mail, I hope that it won't take like 5 to 10 years to accomplish these fantastic features...
Although your article possibly points a long way into the future of e-mail, I hope that it won't take like 5 to 10 years to accomplish these fantastic features...


Only thing is now, how can we carry this discussion into the brainstorming process of Thunderbird v.3, effectively?
May I finally add my screenshot visualizing ''some'' of your proposals already below? http://home.arcor.de/david-peters/TB.png
 
== Support for mailing lists from LDAP ==
 
We would like Thunderbird to be among the mail applications which use our LDAP server with our organization's phone book. Other clients being used include Eudora and Outlook.
 
Entries for individuals work fine but we can't figure out how to make mailing lists work in Thunderbird. We would like a "groupOfUniqueNames" (or analogous LDAP object) to be recognized by TBird as a mailing list and for it to expand to the list of mail attribute of the objects in the list. Also, these emails need to be used when email is addressed to the selected LDAP group.
 
Is this possible? If so, how? If not, can it be done or is it planned?
 
== Integration with Web apps - make it easy ==
I'd like to see some integration between TB and things like Zoho, Google Docs, Flickr, Picasa, etc. Email is an extremely... bad method of sharing documents or pictures, but it seems like that's how the majority of ours are shared. I'd like to see an easy way to transition people from that to something better. All your documents... even attachments you'd received if you really wanted to, could be kept in a little account called "Docs", with folders and all. They could be viewed in the preview pane, and maybe even edited through composer (with UI that doesn't suck from being hacked together, IE compatible HTML) or by opening a single site browser window? Maybe Google Docs or Zoho could even become a source of revenue for TB.
 
I've tried doing this through an extension. Either it requires writing a lot of interfaces that weren't meant to be written in JS, or I can't find the ones that should be written, but I wanted it written down somewhere. I'm sick of my boss overflowing my email accounts with 20 meg attachments. I'm sick of not being able to find those documents 6 months later when he asks about them again.


May I finally add my screenshot visualizing ''some'' of your proposals already below? http://home.arcor.de/david-peters/TB.png
== Reply All: option to include me ==
 
[feature-request] I would like to see (an option for) Reply All to include the recipient of the original message as a recipient of the reply (that is, also send to self, though 'self' may vary depending on the account which the originbal message was sent to).
 
Rationale: I am one of several people who receive incoming mail to a particular address, which isn't a mailing list as such. When we send a reply we want all recipients of the original message to see it (including an archive recipient).
 
Secondly, it's not uncommon to want to send yourself a copy of a reply, for example to make sure it ends up in one's gmail archive rather than just in one's local sent items folder).
 
== Native format change ==
[feature request] I would appreciate it if Thunderbird saved all its messages physically as .eml files. The addressbook should also store files in some other format, an XML format (hCard?) or vCard.
 
Rationale: Recovering from a disaster would be much easier if the individual E-mails and addressbook entries could be copied. It would also make archiving easier: just move them out of the profile folder and burn them onto a CD.
 
Windows Mail has already proven that for a major mail client this is possible -as well as easy copying between clients.
 
== Catalog Option ==
 
It would be nice to have as a catalog option the possibility to include email adresses in it with the options: 'to:', 'cc:', 'bcc:'.
 
== To-Do List ==
 
I think it would be a great idea if Thuderbird implements a quick to-do list like some of the other major email applications have recently done. They can be quite helpful.
 
== iCal ==
 
Would there be any possibility to have the mac version of Thunderbird add events to iCal?
 
== Global Inbox ==
 
It would be great to have a global inbox, containing all your e-mails from all your (selected) email accounts. Same goes for a outbox and junk folder.
 
== Webservices integration ==
 
The reason thunderbird is decreasing in popularity is the trend of upcoming webservices. The trick there is that all your data is available on every pc with internet.
 
An idea would be to create some sort of online storage so people can use thunderbird on every pc to acces their own 'thunderbird account'.
 
Furthermore thunderbird needs better integration with webservices. It would be great if thunderbird would get your flickr photo's in a window, the user chooses a photo of choice and it is integrated in the email in just 1 click. Automatic calendar and adress book sync with Google or any other service is becoming a must as these services become more important. People want to have everything, everywhere.
 
== A Notice Field in: Menue>Accounts ==
 
would be a great feature if there could be a field in Menue > Accounts, where you can type in a note (on standard identity??), for expl.: This account will be fowarded to my office computer. Or: This account is only in use on this computer. Or: There is something wrong with the smtp server password....
I have 5 computers running an i must say, sometimes i lose my overview.
 
what do you mean?