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== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Scope needs to be reduced due to a slow down in the team's completion rate.
* Scope needs to be reduced due to a slow down in the team's completion rate (mmucci)
* New meeting time - possible days/times:
* New meeting time - possible days/times:
** Monday at 10 AM Eastern (''4 PM Henrik'').
** Monday at 10 AM Eastern (''4 PM Henrik'').
** Wednesday at 9 AM or 10 AM Eastern (''3 PM or 4 PM Henrik'').
** Wednesday at 9 AM or 10 AM Eastern (''3 PM or 4 PM Henrik'').
** Other Options?
** Other Options?
* Confirm puppeteer-firefox deprecation warning (maja_zf)
* Confirm puppeteer-firefox deprecation warning (:maja_zf)
* Move discussion from DevTools slack to chat.mozilla.org ([[Matrix]])?
* Move discussion from DevTools slack to chat.mozilla.org ([[Matrix]])?
* Reviews while :whimboo is out next week?
* Reviews while Henrik is out next week?  
* puppeteer triage for firefox issues (:digitarald)


== Roster ==
== Roster ==
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; Present
; Present


<who>
whimboo, maja_zf, digitarald, mmucci, jgraham, Joel Einbinder (Microsoft)


; Regrets
== Minutes ==
 
=== Scope ===
 
Scope needs to be reduced due to a slow down in the team's completion rate.
* Reduce by 25 bugs.
* Dashboard:  https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1CAMaBlX6n5nKvKuBNUcmTZSaPaiGVvIT07u39lkirAE/edit?usp=sharing
* Bugzilla Query for Unassigned MVP Bugs:  https://mzl.la/2LR9ufS
* (done) Maja and Henrik will discuss and change Bugzilla whiteboard tags (change to [puppeteer-beta-reserve]); email mmucci if contingency is removed
* Current MVP Backlog is as follows:  40 MVP In Total
** 28 MVP unassigned and available
** 7 MVP as contingency
** 5 MVP assigned and in development
 
=== Admin Topics ===
 
* New meeting time should be Wednesday 7:30 UTC or 4PM UTC? Probably 4UTC, Maja will send announcement.
* Yes, move chat from Slack to Matrix - see [https://riot.im/app/#/room/#remote-protocol:mozilla.org #remote-protocol] on [[Matrix]]
* jgraham will fill in with code review while whimboo is out next week
 
=== Deprecation message ===
 
* See first line of https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer/issues/5397
* [digitarald] Keep it simple, the sooner message is out the better
** (done) Maja will propose a message and update the Remote wiki page
 
=== Update about Playwright ===
 
Joel:
 
* Playwright will continue to use Juggler Firefox now, but they don't want to maintain a fork for firefox and webkit
** Mainly focused on WebKit lately because it's harder
* Interested in switching to Firefox remote protocol implementation but that's in the long run; want to provide help by answering questions about CDP, Blink, Juggler
** Still concerned by going after CDP as the protocol layer, but will cooperate regardless of what path Firefox chooses
* Fixing bugs in Chrome sometimes leaves Puppeteer in a broken state; when Puppeteer team asks questions, Joel tries to be responsive.
* Six people on Playwright, but Joel only offers himself as a point of contact about technical questions. For "official" answers to other questions, Pavel is the right person.


<who>
Questions:


== Minutes ==
* Searching through CDP implementation
** [joel] CDP is spread out in Chrome intentionally to be as close as possible to relevant Blink code
** [maja] Guide to CDP contributions shows where code is https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c-COD2kaK__5iMM5SEx-PzNA7HFmgttcYfOHHX0HaOM/edit -- see also Remote/Developer_Resources
* [whimboo] Do you have metrics that indicate what Playwright methods are most used?
** [joel] Everything works and is prioritized equally, priority is feature completeness, large test suite. More unit tests in an area might indicate more bug reports from users?
 
=== Puppeteer issue triage ===
 
* Feedback from users after initial 2.1 announcement?
** [maja] A bit of activity, not huge. Mainly confusion about which version of Firefox to use, fetching/launching the browser automatically, feature-completeness in comparison with puppeteer-firefox (i.e. Should puppeteer-firefox still be used for now?)
** A user contributed improvements to the Puppeteer docs about cross-browser support, https://github.com/puppeteer/puppeteer/pull/5360
* Browser fetching is in progress by Maja
 
=== Other Business ===


* [joel] Do puppeteer unit tests run in Mozilla CI? Yes
** James has a patch for setting test metadata -- this will allow running them as Tier 2
* [joel] Seems like users are confused by which Firefox to run; Joel is doing is best to clarify on which browser is being used implicitly by Playwright
* [whimboo] - Should we enable remote agent on Beta?
** [jgraham] Not yet, too much change. Once more stable, enabling on DevEdition (beta) makes the most sense given the audience.


== Progress ==
== Progress ==
Confirmed users
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