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= Mozilla Project Dynamics =
= Mozilla Project Dynamics =


== Topics to be covered ==
An open discussion on how the Mozilla project could and should run.


= Rough Notes on Discussion =
= Rough Notes on Discussion =
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=== Ben Goodger ===
=== Ben Goodger ===
* Identify is partly tied up in the software development methodology
* Identity is partly tied up in the software development methodology
* Identify what parts of the methodologies should be quantified.
* Identify what parts of the methodologies should be quantified.


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=== Mitchell ===
=== Mitchell ===
* If part of our identity/culture is how we build software?
* Is part of our identity/culture how we build software?
* Are there areas to improve?
* Are there areas to improve?


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=== Chris Hofmann ===
=== Chris Hofmann ===
* The problem of review sheparding, management, cooridination isn't going away.  [ Some data that Asa pulled from bugzilla shows that in 2004 over 886 contributors submitted over 17,000 patches to bugzilla.  About 80% of the work was done by the top 100 contributors, and then there is a long trailing edge.  In some sense that is a the sign of a very healthy Open Source project, but also is going to leave long review queues.  Having someone focused on finding the valuable needles in the haystack that we might missing, mentoring to improve patch quality, and coordinating would be valuable.]
* The problem of review shepherding, management, cooridination isn't going away.  [ Some data that Asa pulled from bugzilla shows that in 2004 over 886 contributors submitted over 17,000 patches to bugzilla.  About 80% of the work was done by the top 100 contributors, and then there is a long trailing edge.  In some sense that is a the sign of a very healthy Open Source project, but also is going to leave long review queues.  Having someone focused on finding the valuable needles in the haystack that we might missing, mentoring to improve patch quality, and coordinating would be valuable.]


=== Axel Hecht ===
=== Axel Hecht ===
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* Two issues here:
* Two issues here:
* Making sure there are enough resources to review patches.  Management won't fix this.
* Making sure there are enough resources to review patches.  Management won't fix this.
* Having help to shepard and coordinate releases so patches don't get lost
* Having help to shepherd and coordinate releases so patches don't get lost


=== David Baron ===
=== David Baron ===
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=== Frank Hecker ===
=== Frank Hecker ===
* Frank mentions the census - write to Zak <zak@mozillafoundation.org> for more on this.
* Frank mentions the proposed "Mozilla community census" - write to Zak <zak@mozillafoundation.org> for more on this.


=== Michael Kaply ===
=== Michael Kaply ===
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=== Gerv ===
=== Gerv ===
* The topics of the minutes should not be a surprise.
* The contents of the minutes should not come as a surprise to the community.
* Instead, users should know about the issues before hand.
* The only things which go in there are things which it's OK for the public to know.
* If they find out that way rather than through a "better" mechanism, it means someone has not communicated on an issue with sufficient timeliness using the "better" mechanism.


=== David Baron ===
=== David Baron ===
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* ie. Write to the list about some issue and then you get to become responsible for answering questions about it for it for the next few days.
* ie. Write to the list about some issue and then you get to become responsible for answering questions about it for it for the next few days.


  Todo for Zak
=== Todo for Zak ===
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<s>Create census-@t-mozillafoundation.org</s>
  Create census@mozillafoundation.org
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