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 * Firebug update
+** 1.8 beta is coming
+** will keep compatibility with existing extensions as much as possible
+** mark obsolete APIs display a warning in the console panel whenever a deprecated API is used
+** debated about including some extensions with Firebug
+*** a better solution seems to be to use the "Swarm" feature started by John to load a bundle of connections
+*** might include EventBug extension at least
+** Tested SeaMonkey compatibility
+*** Only a couple of minor problems
+** Firebug modules are now loaded into an iframe rather than browser global scope
+*** not perfect yet, but close
+** the modules work is nearly done, but the reorganization needs to be finished
+** More progress on remoting/Browser Tools Interface
 * Debugger
+** remote protocol is limping along with thread-like actors
+** not tied into the UI yet
+** also working just on globals now
+** next step is getting it working with tabs
+** currently can stop at debugger statement and resume in global space
+** Mihai asked if you can set breakpoints at arbitrary points on a line
+*** dcamp says "eventually"
 * Web Console update
 ** Console repositioning (top request!)
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 ** [http://www.robodesign.ro/coding/screen-casts/webconsole-bugs-577721-585991.ogv video demo of the two new features]
 ** yay Firefox 6
+** Panos has 3 patches that are racing against time to try to land by Monday
 * Scratchpad update
+** Working to get a few fixes before Tuesday
+** l10n feedback on menu items, so renaming some menu items
+** robcee is holding off on making a Scratchpad video until the menu items stabilize
 * Highlighter update
+** Highlighter draws a darker background now
+** Tried adding shadows, outlines and such but found that performance was bad.
+** added a close button to the Highlighter
 * Command Line update
-* Style Doctor
+** Demo up
+** Working on patches
+* Style Doctor:
+** [https://people.mozilla.com/~jwalker/cssdoctor/cssdoctor.webm Quick demo video] (14Mb WebM)
+** Pages used in the video: [https://people.mozilla.com/~jwalker/cssdoctor/demo.html demo] and [https://people.mozilla.com/~jwalker/cssdoctor/test.html test]
 * Style Inspector
-* Style Editing
+** Applied changes from Mihai's review
+** Merged a couple of bugs into the main patch
+** Next step to integrate with the Highlighter
+** CSS logic part hasn't been reviewed by a peer at all, but some of the code has been reviewed a few months ago by dolske.
+* Style Editor
+** [http://neonux.com/csseditor/selector1.jpg Stylesheets tab]
+** [http://neonux.com/csseditor/editor.jpg Editor tab]
+** Cedric working on tests
+** Will likely post an add-on for people to play with
+** ultimately will end up in patch form
+** dcamp suggested we move Style Editor up in the list because of Cedric's timezones
+** Cedric's small incremental parser now has lots of tests and works pretty solidly (3 failing tests)
+** the parser allows the editor to know the context of what you're editing all the time
+** the DOM stylesheets get refreshed in parts, rather than entirely
+** the parser also allows making transitions for changes
 * View source
+** working on feature pages/wireframes
+** dev-apps-firefox thread to start
+* HTML Tree Editing
+** has been experimenting with the way you edit
+** the existing editing experience in other tools isn't always great
+*** font changes
+*** can't see original text
+** trying out having a separate editing box
+*** clearly an editing interface
+*** doesn't obscure the original code
+** also figuring out whether it makes sense to edit attributes independently
+** possibly making a delete button
+** maybe have tab key jump between values
+** robcee had a contenteditable patch that might be relevant, but that one replaced the entire fragment
 == Roundtable ==
+* Kyle asked about how we generally do DOM manipulation work
+** Most people just do straight DOM manipulation
+** there is IQ, which is our stripped down jQuery
+** msucan says you could use IQ if you want, because there's nothing panorama specific
+** we may need to file a bug to get IQ pulled out into a resource we can load
+* dcamp: should debugger be a web console-esque panel at the bottom or separate window?
+** most people seemed in favor of attached
+* dcamp: if there are repos where people can put these bits of work in progress, it would be nice to know that
+** jwalker: for Joe's bits the URLs are in the feature pages
+* when is final merge from devtools to m-c
+** robcee might make that tomorrow
+** Monday is a holiday in Canada
+** Rob is trying to get some Scratchpad things
+* jwalker suggested that if we knew where all of these repos were, we could have automatic builds that identify where conflicts are
+** dcamp suggested having a repo where we dump everything in progress together and be able to play with it
+* robcee: wouldn't it be cool if there was a web-based l10n thing that showed you which files referred to which strings?
+* QA will update the Scratchpad wiki page with some basic use cases
+** they would like us to verify whether those cases are good