Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-06-14: Difference between revisions

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**Current Release Schedules**
Thunderbird 5.0 Final Beta	Thunderbird 3.1.11
ETA: this week	Builds start: 13 June QA with builds start: 14 June Beta period starts: 14/15 June Final release: 21 June

Thunderbird Meeting Details :

Tuesday, June 14, 2011 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
How to dial-in

Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!

Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.

Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page

Agenda

Who's taking minutes? --> andreasn
Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!

Action Items

Friends of the Tree

Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!

Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project)

Thunderbird Development

For more details, see also the driver meeting notes.

Feature Work

Account Provisioner

Privacy and Security reviews are being scheduled.
- We expect some design changes to happen because of those.

OpenSearch

Squib's first set of changes have been pulled in.
There are still some open issues Squib will be working on.

Work on bug fixes, 2.0b1 submitted to AMO for approval, waiting for Archaeopteryx to approve it (needs an admin to make a beta version public). Next: polish the new conversation menu, fix the remaining bugs, and release b2 early.

Compose in a tab

Thunderbird Sync

Account Summary

Ubuntu Unity Integration

Still no word on CD space.
Unity Launcher and Messaging Menu extensions set to be bundled with PPAs when next beta of TB 5.0 is released.
De-RDF patch got some review from jcranmer (thanks!), and still undergoing review. A reminder that this needs to land this cycle for EDS integration to work, which is a must-have for our Ubuntu integration work.
A read-only version of the EDS integration extension will be available towards the end of this week, or early next week. Implementing write capabilities next.

Schedule and Progress

Thunderbird 5 (Miramar)

Thunderbird 5.0 first beta released
Final beta delayed slightly whilst we finish the last bugs and reviews.
Should be out this week.
Contacting addon authors for getting their extensions up to date, been doing blog posts on that. http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/06/10/update-in-time-for-thunderbird-5/
Currently planning on releasing Miramar on 28th of June.

Thunderbird 6

Now on aurora channel.
Tree is aurora tree green.
Once we finalise the name, we'll start nightly builds this week.
We have approval-comm-aurora, tracking flags have arrived, details coming to tb-planning soon.
Deciding on names soon

Thunderbird 7

Currently on comm-central.
Merge date 28th of June

Thunderbird 3.1.x

Builds going out to beta channel today.
Next release ETA June 21.
Bug Lists: 3.1

Extension of the week

QA Updates

Marketing Updates

PR Update: How to Back up Gmail, PC World mention re: cloud vs. desktop apps, Best Email Client for Windows, several mentions on beta and rapid release
Thunderbird ADUs: in the 6.8MM to 7MM, may see a drop due to Summer activities however may offset with increase awareness through Firefox mentions.
Firefox released today, go check it out and join the festivities.
Website work, some final tune-ups with design.

Infrastructure Update

Build / Release Update

Thunderbird 3.1.11 pushed to beta
upgraded Windows build slaves to Mercurial 1.7.5
Geneti clustering
Website updated

Web Update

Documentation

New in Thunderbird 5 article
- tweaks and updates to articles affected by TB5
Contribute group

Support

(If you support Thunderbird or write or translate documentation to help support Thunderbird, please subscribe to the tb-support-crew mailing list and briefly introduce yourself to the list)

1332 new support topics (1231 last week) - Media:6-12June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
Thunderbird 5 Beta 1 is out! Would love some help with contributors to write some knowledge base articles. No experience required, just a copy of Thunderbird and the ability to write in English or translate. We'll polish up your writing and make it sing!
Thunderbird 5 Support Issues
See this week's Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details

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 '''Thunderbird Meeting Details'''&nbsp;:
-* {{DateAndTimeCom|2011|06|07|16|30|Tuesday}} (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
+* {{DateAndTimeCom|2011|06|14|16|30|Tuesday}} (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
 *[[Thunderbird/StatusMeeting/DialInInfo|How to dial-in]]
 '''Remember to press *1 to unmute yourself before talking!'''
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 == Agenda  ==
-*Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''sancus'''
+* Who's taking minutes? --&gt; '''andreasn'''
 * [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?mode=agenda&src=5m2lftdbbr6c3dr9s3foivs278%40group.calendar.google.com Minute taking Schedule]. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
 * Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!
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 === Friends of the Tree ===
 Thanks to our Friends of the Tree When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size and send it to rebron@mozilla.com so that he can send them a shirt!
-=== New Thunderbird Managing Director, JB Piacentino ===
-* started yesterday June 6, 2011
-* based in Paris, France
-* background: product management, business development, mobile, startups
-* met California team in Mountain View on Monday, meeting team in Vancouver 3 days this week, Toronto, end of week and then European folks
 === Conversion Funnel (Priority 0 side project) ===
 === Thunderbird Development ===
-For more details, see also the [[Thunderbird/Driver_Meetings/2011-05-31|driver meeting notes]].
+For more details, see also the [[Thunderbird/Driver_Meetings/2011-06-14|driver meeting notes]].
 ==== [[Thunderbird:Feature Work|Feature Work]] ====
 ===== [[Thunderbird/Experiments#Account_Provisioner|Account Provisioner]] =====
-* The providers all preferred the old design to the new provider-first design, so we'll go with that, as long as the privacy review agrees.
+* Privacy and Security reviews are being scheduled.
-* Contracts are moving forward.
+** We expect some design changes to happen because of those.
 ===== OpenSearch =====
-* Squib has fixed a number of bugs, and bwinton needs to respond to his pull request…
+* Squib's first set of changes have been [https://github.com/mozilla/opensearch/commit/becf9e47dba24cf3adc7d924a5ed71bb14e39d80 pulled in].
-* The current list of issues is at https://github.com/mozilla/opensearch/issues
+* There are still some [https://github.com/mozilla/opensearch/issues open issues] Squib will be working on.
 ==== [[Thunderbird/Experiments|Experiments]] ====
-Blake to start taking a look at this instead of clarkbw
 ===== Thunderbird Conversations =====
-* All blocking bugs for b1 resolved. Waiting on the translators to finish before submitting to AMO.
+Work on bug fixes, 2.0b1 submitted to AMO for approval, waiting for Archaeopteryx to approve it (needs an admin to make a beta version public). Next: polish the new conversation menu, fix the remaining bugs, and release b2 early.
-* New branch that allows you to comment on a bug directly from the quick reply area, assuming you are viewing a bugmail thread. Will merge to master after b1 is out. Works pretty great!
-* More polish, as always. Thunderbird work to enhance the interaction. Finally fixed (Thunderbird side) the long standing bug of the IMIP bar that would never disappear.
-* See https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/issues?sort=created&direction=desc&state=open&page=1 if you want to give a hand.
 ===== Compose in a tab =====
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 ===== Account Summary =====
-* Really (really!) close to a 1.0 release, just cleaning up a few things and closing out the last issues
-* Folder/account summaries now listen to events in order to stay up-to-date
 ===== Ubuntu Unity Integration =====
-* De-RDF'ing patch should be up on Bugzilla by the end of the day.  Woo!
+* Still no word on CD space.
-* We've hit a minor roadblock wrt space on the Ubuntu O CD - the Canonical folk are still unsure whether or not there will be space for TB for this cycle (it doesn't sound like there will be), perhaps sharing libxul with Firefox will help
+* Unity Launcher and Messaging Menu extensions set to be bundled with PPAs when next beta of TB 5.0 is released.
-* EDS contact integration still moving forward.  I'm adding hooks to make the address book contact editor more extendable.
+* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=652855 De-RDF patch] got some review from jcranmer (thanks!), and still undergoing review.  A reminder that this needs to land this cycle for EDS integration to work, which is a must-have for our Ubuntu integration work.
+* A read-only version of the EDS integration extension will be available towards the end of this week, or early next week.  Implementing write capabilities next.
 ==== Schedule and Progress ====
 ===== Thunderbird 5 (Miramar) =====
 * [http://mzl.la/tb_50b1 Thunderbird 5.0 first beta released]
-* Working on final blockers and l10n approvals for second and final planned beta.
+* Final beta delayed slightly whilst we finish the last bugs and reviews.
-* Hoping to start build soon after 23:59 PDT on Wednesday 8th, will release as soon as we're ready.
+* Should be out this week.
-* 5.* has been added to AMO, doing a blog post for extensions later today.
+* Contacting addon authors for getting their extensions up to date, been doing blog posts on that. http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2011/06/10/update-in-time-for-thunderbird-5/
+* Currently planning on releasing Miramar on 28th of June.
 ===== Thunderbird 6 =====
 * Now on aurora channel.
 * Tree is [http://tinderbox.mozilla.org/showbuilds.cgi?tree=Thunderbird-Aurora aurora tree] green.
-* Once we [http://groups.google.com/group/tb-planning/browse_frm/thread/9d4b37dd52692b32 finalise the name], we'll start nightly builds - hopefully Thursday or Friday.
+* Once we [http://groups.google.com/group/tb-planning/browse_frm/thread/9d4b37dd52692b32 finalise the name], we'll start nightly builds this week.
-* We have approval-comm-aurora, tracking flags are on their way, details coming to tb-planning soon.
+* We have approval-comm-aurora, tracking flags have arrived, details coming to tb-planning soon.
+* Deciding on names soon
 ===== Thunderbird 7 =====
 * Currently on comm-central.
+* Merge date 28th of June
 ===== Thunderbird 3.1.x =====
+* Builds going out to beta channel today.
 * Next release ETA June 21.
 * Bug Lists: [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugzilla_standard8.plus.com/drivertools/raw-file/default/bugtracking/index.html?branch=3.1 3.1]
 === Extension of the week ===
-* [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/identity-chooser/ Identity Chooser] : is an extension useful when you have [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/using-identities identities] (or email aliases) on one mail account, you sometime send emails with the wrong From:. With this extension installed it should never happen again.
 === [[Thunderbird:Testing|QA]] Updates ===
-* Worked on TB 5.0b1
 === Marketing Updates ===
-* PR Update: Over 20 articles for the Thunderbird Beta release, [http://www.pcauthority.com.au/News/259630,thunderbird-conversations-brings-threaded-emails-and-more-to-mozilla8217s-email-client.aspx 1], [http://opensource.cbronline.com/news/mozilla-releases-first-thunderbird-5-beta-060611 2], [http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Thunderbird-5-0-arrives-in-Beta-channel-skips-4-0-1254583.html 3], [http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/news/2076158/mozilla-fires-thunderbird-beta 4]
+* PR Update: [http://www.techradar.com/news/internet/how-to-back-up-gmail-965855 How to Back up Gmail], [http://www.pcworld.com/article/229298/cloud_services_vs_desktop_apps_what_fits_your_needs.html PC World mention re: cloud vs. desktop apps], [http://lifehacker.com/5811787/the-best-email-client-for-windows Best Email Client for Windows], several mentions on beta and rapid release
-* Thunderbird ADUs: still at 7MM ADUs w/ 86.7% on latest major release; ~75k average downloads per day
+* Thunderbird ADUs: in the 6.8MM to 7MM, may see a drop due to Summer activities however may offset with increase awareness through Firefox mentions.
-* Continuing web design work, in review.
+* Firefox released today, go check it out and join the festivities.
+* Website work, some final tune-ups with design.
 === Infrastructure Update  ===
-* [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/ Sumomo/Kitsune] : Upgraded
 === Build / Release Update ===
-* Thunderbird 5.0b1 build 2 pushed to test channels.  Pushing 3.1.10->5.0b1 major updates to beta channel soon.
+* Thunderbird 3.1.11 pushed to beta
-* Final beta build this week
+* upgraded Windows build slaves to Mercurial 1.7.5
+* Geneti clustering
+* Website updated
 === Web Update ===
-* working on merging parts of mozillamessaging.com into mozilla.org
-* finishing up AMO patch, took longer than expected!
 === Documentation ===
+* [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-5 New in Thunderbird 5] article
-* [http://openhelpconference.com/index.html Open Help conference]
+** tweaks and updates to articles affected by TB5
-** [http://blogs.mozillamessaging.com/docs/ blog post]
+* [http://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla.org/Contribute/Group/06_09_11 Contribute group]
-** [http://www.slideshare.net/jenzed/coordinating-documentation-and-support-turning-complaints-into-contributions my talk]
-* Thunderbird 5
-** [https://support-stage.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/kb/new-thunderbird-5 New in TB 5 on staging site]
-** other articles and updates go live today
-* ongoing updates regarding updating Mozilla's engagement sites and pages (integrating Thunderbird)
 === [[Thunderbird/Support|Support]] ===
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 # 1332 new support topics (1231 last week) - [[Media:6-12June2011-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]]
 # [https://developer.mozilla.org/devnews/index.php/2011/06/02/thunderbird-beta-now-available/ Thunderbird 5 Beta 1 is out]! [http://support.mozillamessaging.com/en-US/forums/knowledge-base-articles Would love some help with contributors to write some knowledge base articles]. No experience required, just a copy of Thunderbird and the ability to write in English or translate. We'll polish up your writing and make it sing!
+# [[Thunderbird/Thunderbird5.0SupportIssues|Thunderbird 5 Support Issues]]
 # See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2011-06-14/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
+* We will be moving support.mozillamessaging.com soon (no date yet).
 === Lightning Updates ===
-* Low number of blockers left, the remaining ones can be postponed to the next release if needed
-* l10n sign-off completes today, around 30 locales will be ready
-* We need a strategy for the new branching/release schedules. Lightning can't handle 3 branches!
-* comm-central unit testers waiting on some core bugs
-* Testing, testing, testing...
 === Status Updates ===
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 === Roundtable Highlights ===
-Can we get some of the FF info around release numbers, to answer some of the questions we're getting.
-Canary might be available in less than a month.
 === Attendees  ===
-jhopkins, jb, davida, jenzed, ludo, rolandtanglao,standard8 aka Mark Banner, gozer, rebron, bievenu, mconley, bwinton, sancus, andreasn, fallen aka Philipp Kewisch, wmswk aka Wayne Mery
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