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2012-08-10 workshop on how to edit wikis. | 2012-08-10 workshop on how to edit wikis. One of many Mozilla [[Events]]. | ||
Archived from: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/How-to-wiki-2012-08-10 | |||
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* [[User:Wikibiz|Diane Bisgeier]] ([http://twitter.com/tbiz @tbiz]) | * [[User:Wikibiz|Diane Bisgeier]] ([http://twitter.com/tbiz @tbiz]) | ||
* [[User:Hwine|Hal Wine]] (:hwine) | * [[User:Hwine|Hal Wine]] (:hwine) | ||
Line Numbers & colors are an option under "Pad Options" | |||
Big picture: How to collaborate most effectively? | |||
* Email vs wiki vs etherpad | |||
* Email is old. | |||
* Wiki is focusing; more intentional. | |||
Q: When to use Etherpad and when to use the wiki? | |||
A: Is it real-time or not? Sync = etherpad; asynch = wiki. | |||
Etherpad is WAY better for real-time. Good for scratch pads. | |||
Wiki is better for asynchronous.You can do more with a wiki. Higher fidelity. Easier to link to. | |||
Currently, wiki's are webcrawled; etherpads are not. But assume that etherpads will in the future. | |||
One process: | |||
etherpad real-time -> move to wiki later | |||
(It would be awesome to be able to do this automagically - jhammel) | |||
we go back and forth a bit, it's not too bad as long as you don't use rich formatting in etherpad - just a copy/paste | |||
On Naming: | |||
Q: why dashes in URLs? instead of spaces or underscores? | |||
* A1: dashes are slightly better than underscores for SEO. also you don't have to hit the shift key (faster to type) | |||
* A2: ... better than spaces because spaces break auto-linkers. when you copy/paste URLs to email / IM / IRC, those mediums autolink the URLs, which break them at spaces. | |||
* A3: avoid colons ":" in URLs also because it breaks in common linux terminals | |||
Q: Why is Etherpad better than Google Docs? | |||
* A1: The Text line feature (see the left side of the window) is very useful for directing people, like when on a call. | |||
* A2: The colors are useful to see who is editing what. | |||
On Syntax | |||
* Tantek's soap box: Rich editing doesn't work. Not interoperable. | |||
* Asterisk space is converted into bullets. | |||
* Double brackets is turned into wiki link in HTML. | |||
Single bracket followed by one space leads to non-wiki site | |||
eg. | |||
<nowiki>#redirect:[[Tantek]]</nowiki> | |||
linking | |||
<nowiki> [[link | link text]]</nowiki> | |||
Q: Why MediaWiki as opposed to any other kind of wiki? | |||
* A: MediaWiki probably the most known interface. So by editing the Mozilla Wiki you're learning to edit wikipedia. | |||
** DevMo uses Kuma | |||
Editing a user page | |||
Cleaning up spam/spammers | |||
* edit -> blank | |||
* comment: "blanked due to spam, block this account" | |||
Add hCard - http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard | |||
* HTML version of a vcard | |||
* Go to https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Jhammel | |||
* Also like cool vcard downloader -- see Jhammel wiki page, too. | |||
Go install the Operator firefox add-on | |||
* https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/operator/ | |||
* http://microformats.org/code/hcard/creator <== if you forget format | |||
* http://microformats.org/wiki/hcard-authoring | |||
* Q: Any comment on Semantic Watchlist? | |||
* A: I haven't found this to be of any use. - Tantek | |||
Also useful: | |||
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/open-in-browser/ |