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This is a list of open Mozilla community governance issues that Gerv is working on.
This is a list of Mozilla community governance issues. Please add suggestions to the [[GovernanceIssues/Scratchpad|scratchpad]].


We have a page listing [http://www.mozilla.org/about/policies/ existing policies] (may need updating).
We also have a page listing [http://www.mozilla.org/about/policies/ existing policies].


==Open Issues==
Most of these issues are being tackled by [[User:Gerv|Gerv]].


===Non-Code ("Activities") Modules===
==Active==


Issue: Do we need any more Activities modules? Who might own them? We should work out what makes a good module, and who makes a good module owner. Possible examples: SFX, mozilla.org (content vs. technical split?). Do we need to separate policy creation and implementation?
===Discussion Forums Changes===
 
Issue: There are several issues with the current technical implementation of our discussion forums - primarily spam, but also the unresponsiveness of Google re: Google Groups and so on.
 
Proposal: We should look at alternative technical options.
 
* [[Discussion_Forums/Problem_Statement|Problem Statement]]
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_thread/thread/7d418189694b88d1# mozilla.governance thread on mailing list spam]
 
Status: There have been [[Discussion_Forums/Proposal|plans in the past]], which have got derailed by lack of IT time. Community IT is now [https://wiki.mozilla.org/IT/Community/WG/Discourse standing up] an [http://discourse.mozilla-community.org/ instance] of [http://www.discourse.org/ Discourse] which we hope to evaluate and use as a gradual replacement for the current system.
 
Next Steps: Test Discourse instance.
 
===Mozilla Code Not In Our Repos===
 
Issue: recently, Mozilla community members have been storing Mozilla code in repos other than ours (e.g. github, Google Code). Is this a concern from a community, technical or a legal point of view?


* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Module_Owners_Activities_Modules List of existing Activities Modules]
Proposal: Require people with direct access to our Github repos to sign the Committer's Agreement (who haven't signed it already).
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_thread/thread/208ee06876dc8517# Discussion thread on the "Policies" activities module]


So Far: A call for ideas was issued; the following proposals were made: [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/msg/3594d1e366ed64c5 Websites] (David Boswell), [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/msg/fc99b634c1c0b628 Education] (Gervase Markham)
Status: Gerv has access to the necessary Github APIs (for Github committers) and LDAP dump information (for existing Hg committers).


Next Steps: discuss with Mitchell.
Next Steps: Gerv needs to write code to reconcile and match people across those two data sources. Then we need to contact all the people who haven't signed the agreement yet and ask them to.


===Commit Access Policies: Dormant Accounts===
===Stale Reviews===


Issue: We have many SCM accounts which are no longer used. This increases our security attack surface.
Issue: Some review requests remain open and unloved in Bugzilla. This is bad for the (often new) contributors who make patches and see them ignored.  


So Far: We now have a [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/msg/73389b3f4c4f5de9 policy], and we are in the middle of implementing it. [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/gerv_mozilla.org/active-accounts/ Scripts] have been written to extract the dormant list, and refined based on a first round of feedback.
* [http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pcR-hFir9x0Pn-TxV3j2Zbg Spreadsheet mapping Bugzilla components to modules], prepared by Dirkjan Ochtman.


Next Steps: get updated list of active accounts from IT; disable inactive accounts.
Status: Bugzilla started whining about outstanding requests on a weekly basis, and data was captured to see if this has significant effect on the queue. It had some effect, but we then levelled off and have since been slowly creeping back upwards. Bugzilla now bans reviews requested "of the wind", and suggests appropriate reviewers for review requests.


===Commit Access Policies: Harmonization===
On 24th August 2013, a patch was committed to Bugzilla so that Bugzilla now tracks the day a person was last seen. That will allow us to implement {{bug|751862}} (ban requests from requestees who haven't been around for ages) and {{bug|751863}} (cancel requests of requestees who have not been around for ages).


Issue: Our commit access policies are currently very diverse. We should harmonize them and make them consistent, understandable and easy to implement.
Next Steps: Implement those two bugs.


* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Commit_Policy:Current_Procedures reed's long list of what happens now]
===Non-Copyleft Licensing===


So Far: Gerv has assessed the current state of things, and written a [[Commit_Policy|draft]] of a unified policy.
Issue: various parts of Mozilla have started using non-MPL licenses for new codebases.


Next Steps: public review (ongoing).
Proposal: Have discussion about formally permitting this, and then work out if we want to make the effort to switch over legacy codebases.


===Committer's Agreement===
Status: after consultation and discussion, it was agreed that the Apache License 2.0 would be an option maintainers could choose in some circumstances for new codebases. The licensing policy was updated accordingly.


Issue: Transition to the new agreement by nagging those who have not signed and eventually disabling accounts.
Next Steps: Decide if we want to try and get some existing BSD-using codebases or frameworks switched over. There's [[License_Policy/Mozilla_Project_Licensing|a list]] of which projects use what. The Playdoh framework is an obvious candidate.


* There is a private Google Docs spreadsheet tracking the progress.
==Pending/On Hold==


So Far: Since summer 2008 lots of calls to sign the new one have been issued, and many people have moved over. An ultimatum was issued and the deadline given in that ultimatum has now passed. We are now moving on to disabling the SCM accounts of those who have not signed the new agreement.
===Community Governance Reboot===


Next Steps: blocked on dormant accounts work - getting a final list here will allow us to reduce the list to active untransitioned people. We can then disable those accounts.
Issue: the Module Ownership system does not cover all of the activities that Mozilla now engages in. This means that the MoCo org chart is the ''de facto'' governance structure, which makes it impossible for non-employees to take on positions of responsibility.


===Bug Triage===
Status: An [[Activity_Map]] was built in January and February to map out all the things Mozilla does, so we can see where community governance needs to be put in place. (It may need reviewing and updating when this project restarts.)


Issue: There are numerous open bugs in the Governance component in Bugzilla, which need to be triaged and, where possible, resolved.
Next Steps: We need to decide what the future governance structure will look like, in broad terms, before we go ahead and try and create it. It will, at heart, involve Putting People In Charge Of Stuff, but there are a number of ways that can be achieved.  


* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=mozilla.org&component=Governance&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= List of open mozilla.org/Governance bugs]
===Commit Access Levels and GitHub===


So Far: Open bug count reduced from 24 to 7.
Issue: How do we map our ideas of commit access levels onto the model used by GitHub, if at all? {{bug|760153}}.


Next Steps: triage ongoing.
Proposal: We don't; let's just make sure everyone with direct commit access has signed the Committer's Agreement.


===Monday Meeting===
===Change Bugzilla Workflow===


Issue: Clarify the purpose of the meeting, and determine whether the current timing is optimal.  
Issue: the current Bugzilla workflow may not be optimal for the Mozilla project. Now that it's configurable in Bugzilla, we could have a discussion about what is best, implement it in the software, and educate the community to use the new workflow.


* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/68685672ffb76f6b/37cf986d3962a47 thread in mozilla.dev.planning on moving the meeting time]
* [http://steelgryphon.com/testcases/bugzilla-workflow-9.png mconnor's proposal]
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community_Calendar Community Calendar]
* [[BugzillaWorkflowImprovements|Wiki page of ideas]], discussion and links
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/msg/89fa03e13375ae9f dria's summary of the meeting's purpose]
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=264721 Bug on adding 'READY' state] to b.m.o.


So Far: Timing has been moved. Gerv has had discussions with surman and beltzner about possible improvements to content and format.
Other suggestions: open up EXPIRED, or collapse EXPIRED, WONTFIX and INVALID into INACTIVE or some other word.


Next Steps: Gerv is working on a proposal for change.
Status: there are two proposals - a [[BMO/Workflow_Proposal|safe-ish one]] and a [[BMO/Workflow_Proposal_2|more radical one]]. lhenry, the new Bugmaster, is evaluating which (if either) of these proposals is worth pushing.


==On Hold==
==Resolved==


===Discussion Forums===
===Shouldn't-Be-Private Mailing Lists===


There are several issues with the current technical implementation - the unresponsiveness of Google re: Google Groups and so on. Need to look at whether to take the web interface part back in house, and/or put in place other anti-spam measures.
Issue: Mozilla runs a large number of mailing lists, as well as our public [http://www.mozilla.org/community/developer-forums.html discussion forums]. We should audit that list to make sure no project discussion is private when it should be (at least) read-only public.


* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_thread/thread/7d418189694b88d1# mozilla.governance thread on mailing list spam]
Actions: Gerv wrote a small script to extract a list of possibly-concerning mailing lists from mailman. He has had several iterations of the list from mzeier, refining the script each time.


Next Steps: it doesn't look like there's a suitable alternative web interface out there. :-( So it's hard to see how to proceed.
Status: an initial look suggested that this was not a big problem. Although the analysis was not exhaustive, it was sufficient.


===Module Owners List===
===Improve Module Owners List===


Issue: it's often out of date, because it's maintained through despot, which takes a lot of work. We would like to make it hackable, parseable, easier to maintain and therefore more accurate.
Issue: it's often out of date, because it's maintained through despot, which takes a lot of work. We would like to make it hackable, parseable, easier to maintain and therefore more accurate.
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* [http://www.mozilla.org/owners.html Current, despot-generated list]
* [http://www.mozilla.org/owners.html Current, despot-generated list]
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_thread/thread/86e8bc621062a8b6# Module Owners List Action Plan] from mitchell (July 2008 :-( - some objections were raised)
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_thread/thread/86e8bc621062a8b6# Module Owners List Action Plan] from mitchell (July 2008 :-( - some objections were raised)
* [http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/review.html Two] [http://www.mozilla.org/mailnews/review-mail.html documents] from Dan on the MailNews review system, which include modules and owners.
* [https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Mailnews_and_Mail_code_review_requirements document] from Dan on the MailNews review system, which include modules and owners.
 
Status: new system built, data migrated, owners.html redirected.


Next Steps: reconsider objections raised. Try and get consensus on switching list format. (dmose very much in favour.)
===Retire Incubator Program===


===Stale Reviews===
Issue: [http://blog.lizardwrangler.com/2008/06/06/incubator-repositories-proposal/ the incubator program], for creating new Hg repos for collaborating with outside coders, was useful when getting access to our tree was hard. Due to the new [http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/commit-access-policy/ Commit Access Policy], it's now much easier, so Stuart agreed with my suggestion that we could wind this program down.
 
Related bugs: {{bug|478387}}, {{bug|466552}}
 
Status: program retired.
 
===Trim Super-Reviewers List===
 
It has been suggested that there remain some people on the [http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/reviewers.html super-reviewers list] who do not have sufficient recent activity on the project to continue in that role. So, in consultation with Brendan, the list could be trimmed (further; it was trimmed a bit recently).
 
Status: list reviewed, candidates identified, checked with Brendan, 2 people removed.
 
===Harmonize and Simplify Commit Access Policy===
 
Issue: Our commit access policies are currently very diverse. We should harmonize them and make them consistent, understandable and easy to implement.
 
* [[Commit Policy:Current Procedures|reed's long list of what happens now]]
 
Status: [http://www.mozilla.org/hacking/commit-access-policy/ new Commit Access Policy] written and implemented, and infrastructure updated to match.
 
===Switch To New Committer's Agreement===
 
Issue: Transition to the new agreement by nagging those who have not signed and eventually disabling accounts.
 
* There is a private Google Docs spreadsheet tracking the progress.
 
Status: List of people made; big efforts over the past two years to get people to sign; ultimatum issued and deadline passed. List of delinquents made and accounts disabled.
 
===Governance Bug Triage===
 
Issue: There are numerous open bugs in the Governance component in Bugzilla, which need to be triaged and, where possible, resolved.
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&product=mozilla.org&component=Governance&long_desc_type=allwordssubstr&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=&emailassigned_to2=1&emailreporter2=1&emailqa_contact2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&chfieldfrom=&chfieldto=Now&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0= List of open mozilla.org/Governance bugs]
 
Status: Open bug count reduced from 24 to 3. This is no longer an "issue"; the remaining bugs have owners, and Gerv will triage incoming ones.
 
===Disable Dormant SCM Accounts===
 
Issue: We have many source code management system accounts which are no longer used. This increases our security attack surface.
 
Status: Done; 400+ accounts disabled, only a couple erroneously :-)
 
===Monday Meeting===
 
Issue: the Monday meeting is having an identity crisis. Clarify the purpose and most useful content of the meeting, and determine whether the current timing is optimal.
 
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/68685672ffb76f6b/37cf986d3962a47 thread in mozilla.dev.planning on moving the meeting time]
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Community_Calendar Community Calendar]
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/msg/89fa03e13375ae9f dria's summary of the meeting's purpose]
 
Status: Done; timing has been changed; Ten Forward has been rearranged; Gerv has written [[WeeklyUpdates/Guidance|guidance]]; Jono is the new host and is making many other changes. Meetings are now fairly awesome.


Issue: Review requests remain open and unloved in Bugzilla. This is bad for the (often new) contributors who make patches and see them ignored. Fixing the Module Owners List and mapping it to Bugzilla components allows us to nag module owners about their reviews - cancel, do or delegate.
===Create More Non-Code ("Activities") Modules===


* [http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pcR-hFir9x0Pn-TxV3j2Zbg Spreadsheet mapping Bugzilla components to modules], prepared by Dirkjan Ochtman.
Issue: Do we need any more Activities modules? Who might own them? We should work out what makes a good module, and who makes a good module owner. Possible examples: SFX, mozilla.org (content vs. technical split?). Do we need to separate policy creation and implementation?


Next Steps: blocked on above. Then add mapping to list, and write nagging scripts.
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Module_Owners_Activities_Modules List of existing Activities Modules]
* [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_thread/thread/208ee06876dc8517# Discussion thread on the "Policies" activities module]


===Governance Community===
"We should create modules when there is a specific level of responsibility, authority and decision making that it would be helpful to invest in a person." - Mitchell


Issue: The community of people discussing governance issues itself could do with broadening and expanding. Too often, those most affected by governance decisions do not take part in the formulation of policy. Why is this?
"We should make modules to unambiguously place an activity in the arena of stuff which we apply open source and transparent principles to." - Gerv


==Resolved==
Status: A number of modules have been proposed and created; Mitchell will create more as she feels the need.


===Super-Review Policy===
===Update Super-Review Policy===


Issue: super-review policy is out of date. mconnor is updating it.
Issue: super-review policy is out of date. mconnor is updating it.
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Resolution: mconnor updated the super-review policy.
Resolution: mconnor updated the super-review policy.
==Regular Governance Tasks==
Some issues need revisiting on a regular basis, perhaps once a year. This is a (doubtless incomplete) list:
* Update super-reviewers list
* Check for shouldn't-be-private mailing lists
* Disable dormant SCM accounts (note: last-used dates for SCM accounts are tracked by IT in LDAP)

Latest revision as of 13:07, 3 September 2013

This is a list of Mozilla community governance issues. Please add suggestions to the scratchpad.

We also have a page listing existing policies.

Most of these issues are being tackled by Gerv.

Active

Discussion Forums Changes

Issue: There are several issues with the current technical implementation of our discussion forums - primarily spam, but also the unresponsiveness of Google re: Google Groups and so on.

Proposal: We should look at alternative technical options.

Status: There have been plans in the past, which have got derailed by lack of IT time. Community IT is now standing up an instance of Discourse which we hope to evaluate and use as a gradual replacement for the current system.

Next Steps: Test Discourse instance.

Mozilla Code Not In Our Repos

Issue: recently, Mozilla community members have been storing Mozilla code in repos other than ours (e.g. github, Google Code). Is this a concern from a community, technical or a legal point of view?

Proposal: Require people with direct access to our Github repos to sign the Committer's Agreement (who haven't signed it already).

Status: Gerv has access to the necessary Github APIs (for Github committers) and LDAP dump information (for existing Hg committers).

Next Steps: Gerv needs to write code to reconcile and match people across those two data sources. Then we need to contact all the people who haven't signed the agreement yet and ask them to.

Stale Reviews

Issue: Some review requests remain open and unloved in Bugzilla. This is bad for the (often new) contributors who make patches and see them ignored.

Status: Bugzilla started whining about outstanding requests on a weekly basis, and data was captured to see if this has significant effect on the queue. It had some effect, but we then levelled off and have since been slowly creeping back upwards. Bugzilla now bans reviews requested "of the wind", and suggests appropriate reviewers for review requests.

On 24th August 2013, a patch was committed to Bugzilla so that Bugzilla now tracks the day a person was last seen. That will allow us to implement bug 751862 (ban requests from requestees who haven't been around for ages) and bug 751863 (cancel requests of requestees who have not been around for ages).

Next Steps: Implement those two bugs.

Non-Copyleft Licensing

Issue: various parts of Mozilla have started using non-MPL licenses for new codebases.

Proposal: Have discussion about formally permitting this, and then work out if we want to make the effort to switch over legacy codebases.

Status: after consultation and discussion, it was agreed that the Apache License 2.0 would be an option maintainers could choose in some circumstances for new codebases. The licensing policy was updated accordingly.

Next Steps: Decide if we want to try and get some existing BSD-using codebases or frameworks switched over. There's a list of which projects use what. The Playdoh framework is an obvious candidate.

Pending/On Hold

Community Governance Reboot

Issue: the Module Ownership system does not cover all of the activities that Mozilla now engages in. This means that the MoCo org chart is the de facto governance structure, which makes it impossible for non-employees to take on positions of responsibility.

Status: An Activity_Map was built in January and February to map out all the things Mozilla does, so we can see where community governance needs to be put in place. (It may need reviewing and updating when this project restarts.)

Next Steps: We need to decide what the future governance structure will look like, in broad terms, before we go ahead and try and create it. It will, at heart, involve Putting People In Charge Of Stuff, but there are a number of ways that can be achieved.

Commit Access Levels and GitHub

Issue: How do we map our ideas of commit access levels onto the model used by GitHub, if at all? bug 760153.

Proposal: We don't; let's just make sure everyone with direct commit access has signed the Committer's Agreement.

Change Bugzilla Workflow

Issue: the current Bugzilla workflow may not be optimal for the Mozilla project. Now that it's configurable in Bugzilla, we could have a discussion about what is best, implement it in the software, and educate the community to use the new workflow.

Other suggestions: open up EXPIRED, or collapse EXPIRED, WONTFIX and INVALID into INACTIVE or some other word.

Status: there are two proposals - a safe-ish one and a more radical one. lhenry, the new Bugmaster, is evaluating which (if either) of these proposals is worth pushing.

Resolved

Shouldn't-Be-Private Mailing Lists

Issue: Mozilla runs a large number of mailing lists, as well as our public discussion forums. We should audit that list to make sure no project discussion is private when it should be (at least) read-only public.

Actions: Gerv wrote a small script to extract a list of possibly-concerning mailing lists from mailman. He has had several iterations of the list from mzeier, refining the script each time.

Status: an initial look suggested that this was not a big problem. Although the analysis was not exhaustive, it was sufficient.

Improve Module Owners List

Issue: it's often out of date, because it's maintained through despot, which takes a lot of work. We would like to make it hackable, parseable, easier to maintain and therefore more accurate.

Status: new system built, data migrated, owners.html redirected.

Retire Incubator Program

Issue: the incubator program, for creating new Hg repos for collaborating with outside coders, was useful when getting access to our tree was hard. Due to the new Commit Access Policy, it's now much easier, so Stuart agreed with my suggestion that we could wind this program down.

Related bugs: bug 478387, bug 466552

Status: program retired.

Trim Super-Reviewers List

It has been suggested that there remain some people on the super-reviewers list who do not have sufficient recent activity on the project to continue in that role. So, in consultation with Brendan, the list could be trimmed (further; it was trimmed a bit recently).

Status: list reviewed, candidates identified, checked with Brendan, 2 people removed.

Harmonize and Simplify Commit Access Policy

Issue: Our commit access policies are currently very diverse. We should harmonize them and make them consistent, understandable and easy to implement.

Status: new Commit Access Policy written and implemented, and infrastructure updated to match.

Switch To New Committer's Agreement

Issue: Transition to the new agreement by nagging those who have not signed and eventually disabling accounts.

  • There is a private Google Docs spreadsheet tracking the progress.

Status: List of people made; big efforts over the past two years to get people to sign; ultimatum issued and deadline passed. List of delinquents made and accounts disabled.

Governance Bug Triage

Issue: There are numerous open bugs in the Governance component in Bugzilla, which need to be triaged and, where possible, resolved.

Status: Open bug count reduced from 24 to 3. This is no longer an "issue"; the remaining bugs have owners, and Gerv will triage incoming ones.

Disable Dormant SCM Accounts

Issue: We have many source code management system accounts which are no longer used. This increases our security attack surface.

Status: Done; 400+ accounts disabled, only a couple erroneously :-)

Monday Meeting

Issue: the Monday meeting is having an identity crisis. Clarify the purpose and most useful content of the meeting, and determine whether the current timing is optimal.

Status: Done; timing has been changed; Ten Forward has been rearranged; Gerv has written guidance; Jono is the new host and is making many other changes. Meetings are now fairly awesome.

Create More Non-Code ("Activities") Modules

Issue: Do we need any more Activities modules? Who might own them? We should work out what makes a good module, and who makes a good module owner. Possible examples: SFX, mozilla.org (content vs. technical split?). Do we need to separate policy creation and implementation?

"We should create modules when there is a specific level of responsibility, authority and decision making that it would be helpful to invest in a person." - Mitchell

"We should make modules to unambiguously place an activity in the arena of stuff which we apply open source and transparent principles to." - Gerv

Status: A number of modules have been proposed and created; Mitchell will create more as she feels the need.

Update Super-Review Policy

Issue: super-review policy is out of date. mconnor is updating it.

Resolution: mconnor updated the super-review policy.

Regular Governance Tasks

Some issues need revisiting on a regular basis, perhaps once a year. This is a (doubtless incomplete) list:

  • Update super-reviewers list
  • Check for shouldn't-be-private mailing lists
  • Disable dormant SCM accounts (note: last-used dates for SCM accounts are tracked by IT in LDAP)