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=Dial in=
=Dial in=
   # 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 315 (US/INTL)
   # Vidyo:  https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=PGtLpx3XQGJz
   # 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 315 (US)
  # Phone:  650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 315 (US/INTL)
   # irc.mozilla.org #mozmill for backchannel
   #         1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 315 (US)
   # IRC:    [http://widget.mibbit.com/?settings=1b10107157e79b08f2bf99a11f521973&server=irc.mozilla.org&channel=%23automation irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#automation]


=General=
=General=
* Attendies:  
* Attendies:  
** TBD
** TBD
* Next meeting:
* This meeting:
** Chair: TBD
** Chair: Henrik
** Notes: TBD
** Notes: DavidB


= Last Weeks Action Items =
= Last Weeks Action Items =
* {{new|}} DavidB/Henrik: Add section for goals review to weekly scrum pads
* {{done|}} DavidB/Henrik: Add section for goals review to weekly scrum pads
* {{new|}} DavidB/Henrik: Start brainstorming for overall goals until end of 2012
* {{drop|}} DavidB/Henrik: Start brainstorming for overall goals until end of 2012
** Dropped for now to get started right away. Main reason is that the whole company is in a change we need a final understanding of our company-wide strategy first. Also it's now a team goal for Q4.
* {{new|}} Dave: Cancel future endurance test meetings and incorporate updates into meeting template
* {{new|}} Dave: Cancel future endurance test meetings and incorporate updates into meeting template
* {{done|}} Matt: Send out email for final goal definition deadline
* {{done|}} Matt: Send out email for final goal definition deadline
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=Roundtable=
=Roundtable=
* TBD.
* Handling of meeting invites via calendar (zimbra vs. automation services) [Henrik]
* Which website to use nowish for weekly scrum pads? [Henrik]
* Finding Leads for Q4 goals projects [Henrik / David]
** Remote Mechanism to trigger Mozmill tests for Firefox releases (Geo? / ?)
** Prototype of a Fennec Driver (DavidB / Henrik?)
** New Members and Mentors Pages (?? / ??)
** CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds (Henrik / ??)
** Selenium Grid (DavidB / ??)
** Definition of long term team goals for 2012 (DavidB / Henrik)
* Community Stewards [Henrik]
** What can we do to promote our work and hold community members?
** How strong should our group be bound to QA vs. Automation (Dev)? Do we wanna join the already existent [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Stewards#Functional_Areas Tools and Automation] group?
** What about possible job descriptions for volunteers, i.e the [http://davidwboswell.wordpress.com/2011/08/02/newsletter-coordinator-opportunity/ newsletter]
* Anyone want try automate the new Fennec UI with Robotium


= Goals Overview =
= Goals Overview =
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* No updates
* No updates


== Automated Testing for WebApps ==
== Remote Mechanism to trigger Mozmill tests for Firefox releases ==
* No updates
* No updates


== Team Presence (Documentation) ==
== Prototype of a Fennec Driver ==
* Have initial start of design in [http://code.google.com/p/selenium/source/browse/#svn%2Fbranches%2Ffennecdriver Selenium]
 
== New Members and Mentors Pages ==
* No updates
* No updates


== Infrastructure ==
== CI system for daily and l10n Firefox Builds ==
* No updates
* No updates


== Selenium Grid 2 ==
== Selenium Grid ==
* No updates
* No updates


== Endurance Tests ==
== Definition of long term team goals for 2012 ==
* No updates
* No updates


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== Infrastructure ==
== Infrastructure ==
* Shadow test server
* Shadow test server
** vsftpd configured (including ssl) for mozqa.com and defaults to Limtus data directory for anonymous access.
* Cloud Automation
* Cloud Automation
** No updates this week
* Mozmill Infrastructure
** Mac Minis are on site but are still being configured by IT. Being added to existing Macs in floor 2 server room.
** HP servers are on site but have not been racked in foor 3 server room yet.


== Case Conductor (TCM) ==
== Case Conductor (TCM) ==
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== Mozmill ==
== Mozmill ==
====Feedback from [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Mozmill_Test_Automation Firefox Desktop Automation team]====
====Feedback from [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Mozmill_Test_Automation Firefox Desktop Automation team]====
* No updates
* '''All locales test-run cannot be executed due to resource issues on machines ({{bug|658509}})'''


====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Shared_Modules Shared Modules]====
====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Shared_Modules Shared Modules]====
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====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Shared_Modules/API_Refactor API Refactor]====
====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Shared_Modules/API_Refactor API Refactor]====
* No updates
* Handful of basic platform technical issues (node finding, module loading) identified over last couple of weeks. Isolating and getting attention on them via A-Team and further to understand need for workarounds and fixes.


====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Automation Automation Scripts]====
====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Automation Automation Scripts]====
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====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Automation/On_Demand_Testing On-demand Testing]====
====[https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Automation/On_Demand_Testing On-demand Testing]====
* No updates
* Project significantly expanded (maybe even re-oriented) for Q4 goal.
* Are in the requirements-gathering stage of the Q4 project.
* Currently investigating use of Jenkins and similar tools, as well as understanding whether we can fulfill both CI and on-demand goals through same/overlapping systems.
 
====Others====
* '''Pre-configured Mozmill Environment'''
** Investigation and documentation for requirements can be found on the [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Automation_Services/Projects/Mozmill_Automation/Environment wiki page].
** It's not that easy to transplant from the Add-ons SDK because it already requires Python to be installed. But further experimentation already solved the problem on OS X with xtools. On Windows the py2exe tool should help.


== Selenium ==
== Selenium ==
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= Meeting Notes =
= Meeting Notes =
The meeting notes for this meeting can be read in the following etherpad:  
The meeting notes for this meeting can be read in the following etherpad:  
* http://etherpad.mozilla.com:9000/qa-auto-meeting-20111019
* https://etherpad.mozilla.org/qa-auto-meeting-20111019


==Action items==
==Action items==
* {{new|}} %name%: %task%
* {{done|}} Henrik to update calendar
* {{new|}} Geo schedule and drive discussion with the rest of group so we can update goals around the community
* {{new|}} EMail John Hammink on Robotium and CC QA-Staff
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