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<small>(Important bugs for which we need to find owners or additional help. If known, please include suggested team or knowledge needed to advance the bug.)</small> | <small>(Important bugs for which we need to find owners or additional help. If known, please include suggested team or knowledge needed to advance the bug.)</small> | ||
; Orange Factor | ; Orange Factor | ||
* The dom/downloads tests have joined dom/apps and dom/datastore as disabled on B2G due to frequent failures ({{bug|961014}}, {{bug|949451}}, {{bug|947167}}, etc) and lack of progress finding a fix. Unlike dom/apps and dom/datastore, these were also failing on B2G desktop builds. Filed {{bug|979446}} for fixing and re-enabling. | |||
* {{bug|970052}}/{{bug|970053}} - browser_URLBarSetURI.js disabled on debug Linux/OSX for frequent timeouts. | |||
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<small>(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)</small> | <small>(Release and system issues that may impact engineering this week.)</small> | ||
===Notices/Schedule (lsblakk/ | ===Notices/Schedule (lsblakk/sylvestre)=== | ||
* Second to last Android beta 28 shipping this week | |||
* Desktop 28.0b8 ships today, two more betas - only taking tracked & sec-critical issues at this point | |||
* input=color was disabled, should ship in 29 | |||
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| <center><big>[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?type0-7-0=notequals;value0-7-0=%2B;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};value0-3-0=unaffected;field0-7-0=cf_tracking_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};type0-6-0=notequals;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;list_id=5004437 | | <center><big>[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?type0-7-0=notequals;value0-7-0=%2B;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};value0-3-0=unaffected;field0-7-0=cf_tracking_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox{{AURORA_VERSION}};type0-6-0=notequals;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;list_id=5004437 53 bugs]</big> <small>(47 bugs last week)</small></center> | ||
| <b><center><big>[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;list_id=4754086;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};value0-3-0=unaffected;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};type0-6-0=notequals | | <b><center><big>[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?type0-1-0=notequals;type0-5-0=notequals;value0-5-0=disabled;value0-4-0=verified;list_id=4754086;field0-1-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};field0-0-0=cf_tracking_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};value0-3-0=unaffected;value0-6-0=verified%20disabled;value0-1-0=wontfix;field0-5-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=%2B;type0-2-0=notequals;field0-3-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};type0-4-0=notequals;columnlist=bug_severity%2Cpriority%2Cop_sys%2Cassigned_to%2Cbug_status%2Cresolution%2Cshort_desc%2Cchangeddate;field0-6-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};query_format=advanced;value0-2-0=fixed;type0-3-0=notequals;field0-2-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};field0-4-0=cf_status_firefox{{BETA_VERSION}};type0-6-0=notequals 41 bugs]</big> <small>(44 bugs last week)</small></center></b> | ||
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* We won't be resetting Try repository as part of the regular 6 week tree closure windows. If pushing to Try becomes too slow, please file a bug with IT to coordinate resetting. | |||
** For some background or to follow up, read the [https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/Hb2EKXZmY70 dev.platform thread] | |||
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===Add-on SDK (dtownsend)=== | ===Add-on SDK (dtownsend)=== | ||
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===Firefox OS Devices/Porting (ericchou)=== | ===Firefox OS Devices/Porting (ericchou)=== | ||
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* Bluetooth | |||
** Spent much time on defining the new Bluetooth API (before pairing). | |||
** Currently we use devices which use BlueZ as backend. We started to change to use Bluedroid as primary backend since it's the only backend which is supported by post-JB android. | |||
* Media Playback | |||
** Features (Integrate MediaCodec into gecko & PlatformDecoderModule for FirefoxOS) are in progress. | |||
** Media Playback work week will be held from 3/10 to 3/14 at Mozilla Taiwan office in Taipei. | |||
* Device Storage & Stability | |||
** New API "mount", "unmount" got r+ and landed today. ({{bug|971612}}) | |||
** Ready to raise a topic for defining Device Information API for our app developers to get device information more easily and also for the compatibility of Cordova. (https://wiki.mozilla.org/CordovaFirefoxOS) | |||
===Firefox OS Media Apps (hema)=== | ===Firefox OS Media Apps (hema)=== | ||
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===Firefox OS Media Recording (cjku)=== | ===Firefox OS Media Recording (cjku)=== | ||
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* {{Bug|971641}} - [MediaEncoder] Support AMR audio format in 3GP | |||
* {{Bug|938034}} - [B2G] GetUserMedia can provide recording callback in media stream | |||
* {{Bug|975930}} - [LayerScope] All textured buffers show RB swapped which is incorrect. | |||
* {{Bug|959089}} - Separate GrallocBuffer allocations from Compositor thread | |||
* {{Bug|959505}} - [Display][gonk-kk] Porting GonkNativeWindowClient, GonkBufferQueue, and FakeSurfaceComposer | |||
* {{Bug|924692}} - [Touch Caret] Display a touch caret according to caret postion in input element | |||
===Firefox OS Performance (mlee)=== | ===Firefox OS Performance (mlee)=== | ||
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[http://scrumbu.gs/t/fxos-dev-mlee/2014.02.28/ 2014.02.28: Last Sprint] | |||
* Focused on Scrolling FPS, Memory, Launch Latency and Automation. | |||
[http://scrumbu.gs/t/fxos-dev-mlee/2014.03.14/ 2014.03.14: Current Sprint] | |||
* Focus on Automation, Scrolling FPS, Power and [https://wiki.mozilla.org/FirefoxOS/Tarako Tarako]. | |||
===Firefox OS Productivity (doliver)=== | ===Firefox OS Productivity (doliver)=== | ||
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===Firefox OS | ===Firefox OS Telephony/WIFI/NFC (kenhkchang)=== | ||
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* QC Blocker list, | |||
** {{Bug|881174}} - B2G CDMA: support conference (3-way) call. | |||
** {{Bug|960865}} - B2G RIL: support dun apn type. | |||
** {{Bug|969218}} - B2G RIL: using promise for telephony.dial() and dialEmergency() | |||
** {{Bug|975813}} - Support IPv6 in Network Manager | |||
** {{Bug|900429}} - (b2g-ril-cdma) Personalization state for CDMA. | |||
** {{Bug|973771}} - B2G RIL: Preferred Network types for LTE. | |||
** {{Bug|881174}} - B2G CDMA: support conference (3-way) call | |||
** {{Bug|960865}} - B2G RIL: support dun apn type | |||
** {{Bug|973842}} - support adding routes in secondary routing tables | |||
** {{Bug|961571}} - B2G RIL: support ims apn type | |||
* To fix 1.3+ bugs, | |||
** {{bug|964228}} - Race condition in NetworkStatsService.jsm | |||
* To fix 1.4+ bugs, | |||
** {{Bug|975356}} - [DSDS][RIL] iccId is not correctly set on the message received from SystemMessenger | |||
** {{Bug|945089}} There is some case that concatenated SMS data is lost | |||
* NFC, | |||
** {{Bug|933588}} - B2G NFC: Rewrite NFC Worker in C++. | |||
** {{Bug|978671}} - B2G NFC: Add ro.moz.nfc.enabled system proprty to Nexus-5 (hammerhead). | |||
===Firefox OS Systems - Front End (gwagner)=== | ===Firefox OS Systems - Front End (gwagner)=== | ||
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* Fixing up integration tests | |||
* Various fixes to the Download API/Manager | |||
* Fixes to cards view | |||
* Getting OOP turned on by default in Linux B2G desktop | |||
===Firefox OS Systems - Platform (timdream)=== | ===Firefox OS Systems - Platform (timdream)=== | ||
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===GFX (milan)=== | ===GFX (milan)=== | ||
* focus for the graphics team for the next two weeks: | |||
** {{nbug|942750}} - no checkerboarding (likely includes enabling tiling) | |||
*** the tiling has two competing/complementary approaches being investigated; will make a call this week | |||
** {{nbug|957323}} - hardware composer fence on B2G 1.4 (done) | |||
** {{nbug|854795}} - image downsize on decode (done) | |||
** KitKat support (Nexus 5 for now) | |||
===Identity (jedp)=== | ===Identity (jedp)=== | ||
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* Desktop Sync (ckarlof) | |||
** Everyone keep testing FxA and Sync | |||
* FxA on FxOS (spenrose) | |||
** Down to fewer than 10 blockers for landing preffed-off. (See {{bug|955951}}.) | |||
** Big blocker is UI review from Settings peer. | |||
** Beginning Q/A process. | |||
* Third-party Identity-Attached Services (jedp) | |||
** Partnering with fruux.com to build proof-of-concept contacts backup for FxA on FxOS | |||
** Devs: fmarier, jedp, ozten (part-time); UX: skinny | |||
** Deadline: April 30 | |||
** IRC: #fruux | |||
** Bug tree: {{bug|976837}} | |||
** Wiki: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Identity/Contacts-Backup | |||
** Some prior work: https://github.com/mozilla/people, {{bug|859306}} | |||
===JS (naveed)=== | ===JS (naveed)=== | ||
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** Compiler (JIT) | |||
*** {{bug|948229}} - Fixed last crash with inline-frame-profiling-removal patch | |||
*** Opened {{bug|976260}} - for instrumenting profiler with optimization info. | |||
** Garbage Collection | |||
*** {{bug|961875}}, {{bug|952818}}, {{bug|956081}}, {{bug|969410}} - Fixed a bunch of random remaining GGC issues: | |||
** Front End and Other | |||
*** SharedArrayBuffer landed on Nightly! Spent the last week working through fuzz bugs and re-testing to get a green landing. | |||
*** {{bug|972712}} Landed JS memory reporter improvements (bug 972712): script sources are now attributed to files, and objects/shapes are attributed to classes. | |||
===Layout (jet/dbaron)=== | ===Layout (jet/dbaron)=== | ||
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* Bug 966992 - Implements overflow-clip-box: content-box | |||
* Bug 978612 - Perf optimization for static-positioned elements | |||
* Bug 978608 - Memory optimizations in font configuration shutdown | |||
* Bug 976364 - CSS 'perspective' now creates a stacking context. | |||
* Bug 973767 - Fix race conditions in compositor testing code | |||
* Bug 947588 - Improve rendering of invalid characters (aka hexboxes) | |||
* Bug 975900 - SVG imgUtils now converted to Moz2D | |||
* Bug 969460 - <html> (root element) now accepts 'display:flex' | |||
* Bug 63895 - fixed many longstanding table element positioning issues | |||
* Bug 962440 - Text performance implements async font loader | |||
* Bug 735577 - Logical direction API's starting to land to prepare for Vertical Text | |||
* Bug 977891 - e10s compositor fixes | |||
* Bug 976877 - Performance optimizations for scrolling | |||
* Bug 968555 - backface-visibility shouldn't trigger creation of a stacking context | |||
===Media (mreavy)=== | ===Media (mreavy)=== | ||
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* Many of us are attending the IETF conference in London this week. Expect updates next week. | |||
===Necko (dougt/jduell)=== | ===Necko (dougt/jduell)=== | ||
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* no update this week. | |||
===Performance (vladan)=== | ===Performance (vladan)=== | ||
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===Seceng (mmc)=== | ===Seceng (mmc)=== | ||
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==Quality Programs== | ==Quality Programs== | ||
<small>(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)</small> | <small>(An opportunity to hear about status with the various quality programs that do not have a formal team structure.)</small> | ||
===CritSmash (dbolter)=== | ===CritSmash (dbolter)=== | ||
* Thank you to those who fixed security bugs, great activity in the past couple of weeks. | |||
* Pwn2Own is coming (March 13-14), be prepared! | |||
===MemShrink (njn)=== | ===MemShrink (njn)=== | ||
* JS memory reporting [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972712 has improved]: script sources are now attributed to files, and objects/shapes are attributed to classes. | * JS memory reporting [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972712 has improved]: script sources are now attributed to files, and objects/shapes are attributed to classes. | ||
===OrangeFactor (ryanvm)=== | ===OrangeFactor (ryanvm)=== | ||
* Past week's OrangeFactor: [http://brasstacks.mozilla.com/orangefactor/ 5.72] (Previous Week: 4.64). | |||
* 16 intermittent failures fixed in the last week - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?keywords_type=allwords&keywords=intermittent-failure%2C%20&resolution=FIXED&o1=greaterthan&v1=2014-02-25&f1=cf_last_resolved&query_format=advanced&list_id=9612056 List] - Thanks!. | |||
===Stability (kairo/bsmedberg)=== | ===Stability (kairo/bsmedberg)=== | ||
* [http://arewestableyet.com/ Overall numbers] look pretty good all around. | |||
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===Friends of the Tree=== | ===Friends of the Tree=== | ||
There were great changes by volunteers in Core and Toolkit during the past week. Thanks to all of these contributors for their passion and hard work! Here are some highlights: | |||
* '''Stefan (stefanh)''' improved OS X native theming ({{bug|970079}}). | |||
* '''Arnaud Bienner''' fixed a problem with color inputs ({{bug|977029}}, {{bug|977301}}). | |||
* '''James Kitchener (jkitch)''' fixed a MathML layout issue ({{bug|975935}}). | |||
* '''Glenn Randers-Pehrson''' upgraded libpng ({{bug|952505}}, {{bug|974825}}). | |||
* '''Oleg Romashin (romaxa)''' improved pointer events support ({{bug|970964}}, {{bug|974177}}, {{bug|977695}}). | |||
* <span style="color:green;font-variant:small-caps">[first patch!]</span> '''owpard''' added eviction to media source extensions ({{bug|976037}}). | |||
* '''Peiyong Lin (lpy)''' added filenames to OS.File errors ({{bug|967507}}). | |||
* '''Andy Wingo (wingo)''' improved SpiderMonkey ({{bug|962599}}, {{bug|976047}}, {{bug|976596}}). | |||
* '''Horia Iosif Olaru''' fixed some blending mode problems ({{bug|952051}}, {{bug|970348}}, {{bug|976533}}). | |||
* '''Rik Cabanier''' added hit regions in canvas ({{bug|966591}}). | |||
* '''Robert Longson (longsonr)''' fixed a clipping problem with SVG ({{bug|975206}}). | |||
* '''Ms2ger''' performed some build system conversions ({{bug|973649}}). | |||
* <span style="color:green;font-variant:small-caps">[first patch!]</span> '''Luca Niccoli''' fixed a profile lock problem on Unix ({{bug|977803}}). | |||
* '''Girish Sharma (Optimizer)''' added a cookie notification ({{bug|970246}}). | |||
* <span style="color:green;font-variant:small-caps">[first patch!]</span> '''Scott West''' made the Accept header be preserved across redirects ({{bug|401564}}). | |||
* '''Anup''' made the disable plugin placeholder closeable ({{bug|921730}}). | |||
===Mailing List Threads=== | ===Mailing List Threads=== | ||
<small>(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)</small> | <small>(Threads that are likely to be of interest to engineering from various mailing lists.)</small> | ||
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13:58 lmandel_: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2014-03-04 | |||
14:00 dveditz: KaiRo: I was re-watching Trading Places recently and was surprised to see everyone in New York (and maybe Philadelphia?) dressed up in costumes for New Years. Haven't seen that on the west coast | |||
14:00 jedp: dveditz amazingly, i just re-watched that last week. and yes. | |||
14:00 dveditz: then again it was a plot point (gorilla/man-in-gorilla-suit confusion) so maybe they just made it up for the movie | |||
14:01 KaiRo: dveditz: interesting | |||
14:02 dveditz: jedp: I wasn't intending to, just stumbled on it on a lazy rainy day so why not? | |||
14:03 catlee: :'-( | |||
14:03 dveditz: catlee? | |||
14:03 catlee: lmandel_ is stepping down running these platform mtgs | |||
14:03 overholt: RyanVM|sheriffduty, I'm working on the dom downloads bugs | |||
14:04 RyanVM|sheriffduty: overholt: thanks | |||
14:04 catlee: we need a going away party | |||
14:05 lmandel_: catlee: Happy to have a party thrown. | |||
14:06 RyanVM|sheriffduty: catlee: we only store logs for 30 days, so I'm wondering if we really need to save the history older than that | |||
14:07 catlee: probably not | |||
14:08 Pike: catlee: the only real counter-argument for strip is pushlog coming out of sync, right? | |||
14:09 catlee: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/Hb2EKXZmY70 | |||
14:09 catlee: Pike: yeah, I think so | |||
14:09 Pike: ... and if so, would the revlog storage proposal change that? | |||
14:09 catlee: not sure | |||
14:12 RyanVM|sheriffduty: lsblakk++ | |||
14:12 lsblakk: ? | |||
14:12 KaiRo: after all, we have "10 F***ING DAYS" to ship a fix! | |||
14:13 lsblakk: that's right :) | |||
14:13 Pike: lmandel_: so was your last meeting the shortest? | |||
14:13 lsblakk: so doing it in 4 is icing | |||
14:13 dveditz: so who is going to be leading the mtg? | |||
14:13 jedp: thank you, lmandel_ | |||
14:13 johnath: dveditz: cpeterson | |||
14:14 dveditz: thanks | |||
14:14 dveditz: and yes, thank you lmandel, especially for your reformatting of the mtg and stern hand keeping it on track -- lots of information in a short amount of time | |||
14:15 dveditz: one of my more useful meetings of the week for time spent | |||
14:25 jesup: dveditz: You were probably seeing the Philadelphia "Mummers" Parade. Mardi Gras-ish costumes, string bands/dancing, and comics. Been going since the ?late 1800's? on Jan 1. The troupes build constumes and practice year-round more or less | |||
14:28 lmandel_: dveditz, jedp: My pleasure. I'm glad to hear that you find the meeting useful. That was my goal. | |||
14:29 jedp: lmandel_ very helpful. short and sweet updates; lots of info efficiently delivered. | |||
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