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 === Action Items ===
 ==== Open ====
-* '''AI:group''' write down desired IMAP offline behavior on wiki page for next week
+* '''AI:clarkbw''' continuing to drive [[MailNews:Address Book New Card]]
-** emre: not much participation outside of a few people
+** Getting started, mockups soon to come up post-discussion.
-* '''AI:Standard8/clarkbw''': mac addrbook UI
+** Standard8 and dmose will help with this.
-** standard8: done
-** clarkbw: continuing to drive [[MailNews:Address Book New Card]]
 * '''AI:davida''' guided form doesn't allow version unsetting
 * '''AI:davida''' bugzilla should _refuse_ unspecified version
 * '''AI:davida''' version field UI in bugzilla should be clarified
 * '''AI:davida''' should have "file bug" menu item in nightlies/alphas
-** dmose: email conversations started regarding these but likely to punt on moving forward; carry over to next week for davida response
+** Standard8: carry over to next week for davida response
 * '''AI:clarkbw''' create design for UI around [[MailNews:Better_Faster_IMAP_Plan#Emre:_Proposal_for_Implementation|Emre's Implementation Proposal]] pieces
-* '''AI:emre''' begin work on offline operation playback feature
+** [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/d83667904aaa43bf# discussion thread started]
+* '''AI:emre''' begin work on imap preemptive message download feature
+* '''AI:dmose''' Thunderbird 3 roadmap and planning with davida.
+* '''AI:asuth''' Post initial global database schema/plan on wiki and post to newsgroup for discussion.
+** Lightning-related.
 ==== Closed ====
 * '''AI:asuth''' figure out what installer work needs to be done for {{bug|375922}}
 ** asuth: figured out.  porting from firefox installer-related patches in progress.
+* '''AI:emre''' begin work on offline operation playback feature: Patch is submitted.
+* '''AI:group''' write down desired IMAP offline behavior on wiki page
+** done.
+* '''AI:Standard8/clarkbw''': mac addrbook UI
+** Standard8: done
 === [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a2]] ===
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 * When
 ** Planned code freeze: July 8, 23:59 Pacific
+=== Thunderbird v.next and branch tracking ===
+Discussion so far in [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_thread/thread/de12fffeff417ae4/ca5aa18d203660f4?lnk=gst&q=Thunderbird+v.next#ca5aa18d203660f4 mozilla.dev.planning] (link missing the first few posts).
+Following discussion on irc today, several points came out from discussion about possibly moving to 1.9.1 for our main work:
+* Core devs willing to help us come to a reasonable solution, possibly an intermediate one whilst working out when to move to hg fully etc (e.g. see {{bug|437059}}
+* We don't want to re-invent the build system.
+* Option A on [[SeaMonkey/1.9.1_Repository_Options]] may be the best solution for the time being and/or overall
+** Would require a separate pull script for mozilla-central (at least whilst we're not in hg I believe).
+** ted & co willing to help us get the build system working with that sort of layout (Standard8 needs to file bug)
+* Depends on when we will ship.
+** 1.9.0.x is already frozen.
+** We need to define our release goals for Thunderbird 3.
+** We don't have very many core patches that are Thunderbird-specific and have a high impact on core.
+** 1.9.1.x may possibly slip into next year.
+Full discussion on the [[Talk:Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-06-03|talk page]]
 === QA Updates ===
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 * Next bugday on [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-06-05|05 June 2008]].
+** continued focus on recent bugs which have no comments/feedback
 ** nth10sd will be there for session 2 only.
 *** We may only have one staffed session for bugdays in the near future, until helpers' numbers increase.
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 *** filed and worked on patch for compose window crasher bug, but it turned out to be an already-patched DUP ({{bug|436544}})
 *** reviewed unit test setup/teardown cleanup patch ({{bug|434810}})
-*** put together draft review requirements pages (link here)
+*** put together draft review requirements pages (see [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.governance/browse_frm/thread/b34e7b135b8864f6 announcement])
 *** started reviewing nsIAbCard refactoring ({{bug|413260}})
 *** misc other small reviews
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 *** Went on an [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&bugidtype=include&bug_id=436195%2C436212%2C436331%2C436341%2C436361%2C436366%2C436373%2C436606%2C436609%2C436621%2C436622%2C436928 assertion-finding spree]. (12 found so far)
 **** Provided normal and full backtraces for each assertion trapped, using gdb.
+*** Did some work exploring the use of DOMi on Thunderbird trunk.
+**** Will work on some form of blogpost or wiki page describing this.
 *** Usual bugday, triage etc.
 ** Standard8
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 **** {{Bug|414432}} Finished improvements to nsIMsgHeaderParser::makeFullAddress(String)
 **** {{Bug|376877}} Fixed duplicate packaging of all-l10n.js in installer builds.
+** asuth
+*** Lightning
+**** Tried very hard to duplicate {{bug|367456}}, but it appears to have been mooted on the trunk.  Another commenter says TB 2.0.0.14 w/lightning also no longer has the problem.  There was a fair amount of short-term memory bloat and poor performance with the torture-test files though, which leads to...
+**** some pecobro enhancements to support with investigating leaks/bloat
+***** Made pecobro understand object allocation.
+***** Refactored pecobro to support caching all underlying data types, and no longer fuse/integrate the ASTs with the semantic cache (as suggested by dmose/dascher).  This greatly improves the performance and makes it possible for people with more reasonable amounts of memory to run things.
+***** Ran into a glitch where the DTrace probes/underlying javascript engine is lying about what file is being executed at a given point of time, which made the trace parser un-happy.  (Why I haven't posted a processed trace with the new mods yet).  I believe this would affect venkman too.
+**** Will try and complete these pecobro changes/fixes and use to help track down some lightning performance issues soon.
+*** Global Database
+**** Lot of thinking/planning.  Have looked at myk's snowl schema, posterity's original schema, my mods to posterity's schema, and clarkbw's examples from the newsgroup and previous proposed extension.
+*** justdave's WindowServer slow-down bug, {{bug|436897}}
+**** Spent a bunch of time trying to help remotely debug this and duplicate this locally (before the bug was logged).
+*** misc
+**** Fixed a glitch in my mail-folder-bindings fix on {{bug|296453}}; thanks to sid0.
+**** {{bug|435228}} fix went into tree; uncovered a multiple-listener scenario which is logged on {{bug|436366}} which I need to look into more deeply/propose a fix for.
+*** Still pending
+**** Installer work {{bug|375922}} (hopefully MSDN OS license comes through soon)
+**** Unit test for {{bug|296453}}.
+** bienvenu
+*** Many code reviews - reduced backlog of old reviews, and keeping up with new review requests
+*** Helped Emre with Better Faster IMAP issues - added unit test in msgdb for one of them
+*** Investigated adding support for IMAP RFC 4551 {{bug|436151}}
+*** Worked on speeding up loading saved searches {{bug|436960}}
+** Emre
+*** Mainly worked on {{bug|435153}}, a patch is submitted for review
+*** Blogged about the thinking and development process at [http://sicakborek.wordpress.com/ sicakborek.wordpress.com]
+*** Started to work on {{bug|436615}}
+*** Started to work on {{bug|413874}} to adapt it to the branch
+*** Dale from penelope project has commented on imap plans. Good news, he is available for help. Planning to talk to him this week.
+** Gozer
+*** [http://noc.mozillamessaging.com Mozilla Messaging NOC] is up and running
+**** Will post details on downtime there.
+*** All 4 [http://www.sun.com/servers/x64/x4150/ Sun X4150]s are up and running, waiting for something to do.
+*** System Configuration managment is still lacking, but not blocking
+*** Apple hardware still hasn't arrived...
+*** Need some work on Bugzilla components for MoMo IT.
+**** Will post to mozilla.dev.mozilla.org as suggested by dmose.
+*** Build processes are the most important, and other infrastructure will have to be migrated over too.
+** clarkbw
+*** Worked on an [http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/ interactive status bar] in the beginning of the week
+**** [http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/interactive-status-bar-history%20(failure).png history w/ failure]
+**** [http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/interactive-status-bar-history.png history]
+**** [http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/interactive-status-bar-with-multiple-accounts%20(progress-meter).png multiple account w/ progress]
+**** [http://clarkbw.net/designs/interactive-status-bar/interactive-status-bar-with-multiple-accounts.png multiple accounts]
+*** De-Folderification meeting mid-week
+*** Started [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/d83667904aaa43bf# discussion on experimental view]
 === Attendees ===
+Standard8, emre, clarkbw, nth10sd, dmose, gozer, asuth, KaiRo
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