Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-09-02

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Sept 2, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
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Agenda

• Who's taking minutes: Gozer

Action Items

Open

• davida: file a bug on getting an announcements feed going on]
• everyone: look for delight bugs for the next release, put [delight] in status whiteboard

Closed

• dmose: will send out email scheduling drivers meeting for 9:30 Thursday
• davida: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com bug 449252

Thunderbird:Shredder a2

• Post Mortem took too long to schedule, cancelled
• Next time around, include it in the release schedule

Thunderbird 3

• lots of triage has happened; status = ?
• some question about use of Target-Milestone field
• action item(dmose): email drivers to schedule meeting this week

Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1

• One week to planned code freeze (9th September)
• Today is planned string freeze for 3.0b1 (2nd September)

• wsmwk is the QA lead of Beta 1
• Standard8 is the release driver

• Ended up pushing the schedule by 2 weeks:
  • Three week to planned code freeze (23th September)
  • Two week planned string freeze for 3.0b1 (16th September)

The schedule will be updated accordingly

• 3.0b1 Tracking Document

L10N builds/String Freeze

• L10N builds:
  • SeaMonkey and Firefox now have some level of L10N builds for testers
  • Firefox has compare-locales and L10N dashboard
  • Thunderbird potentially has compare-locales once editor/ui moves (next couple of days)
  • devmo (L10n on Mercurial) now has instructions for comm-central as well as mozilla-central.
  • Gozer will adapt SeaMonkey's L10N buildbot config to our own

• String Freeze - Main bugs:
  • Account Configuration bug 422814
    • No reviews posted yet
    • might be ready in a week -- DavidA
  • Password Manager bug 239131
    • Still a lot of work to do.
    • At least one good week -- Standard8
  • Gloda bug 450494
    • davida: relatively few strings, need to be concerned about UI for upgrading
  • Inline card dialog bug 450724 patches:
    1. Mechanics: awaiting clarkbw's approval
    2. Inline Edit dialog: requested reviews (philor, clarkbw), but need to resolve one issue
    3. Add-on-click: patches ready, awaiting reviews
    4. Star UI: prototyped, need to do proper version.
  • Improved Message Reader View bug 449691
    • No patches for review yet. Don't know how many strings are to be changed.
  • Offline Data Storage Pref Screen bug 369096 (??)

Blockers / Wanted Bugs

• Blockers/Wanted:
  • blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+: 19
  • TB 3.0b1 - blocking: 9
    • Note: spread across two lists, some dups, not all of these are hard-blockers.
  • TB 3.0b1 - wanted: 14
• Proposed Blockers:

• Fixed:
  • blocking-thunderbird3.0b1+: 8
  • TB 3.0b1 - blocking: 11
  • TB 3.0b1 - wanted: 6

• 3 blockers with no owner:
  • bug 429118 Thunderbird inline spell check broken
    • This has a proposal for fixing it, needs someone to implement/test
  • bug 408370 STEEL
  • bug 437056 run a message filter on a folder - "choose this folder" option missing, can't run on folders with subfolders
    • Needs an updated patch.
  • bug 452832 drag and drop multiple messages between folders fails (moves only one)
    • Has suggested fix
• High priority bugs not referenced above:
  • bug 360648 TB toolkit autocomplete migration
    • Waiting on one review from Beltzner
    • LDAP code needs doing.

QA Updates

• good bugday last week, such that NEW and UNCONFIRMED are almost touching
• last week focus began on Patch Love
  • last bug comment less than 800 days ago at 116 bugs, down by 11 from 127 bugs
  • all bugs at 229 bugs, down by 12 from 241 bugs
  • all patches that require string changes at 45 bugs, down by 8 from 53 bugs)
• Discussions occurring in m.d.planning about improving Bugzilla Workflow and general Bugzilla Improvements (a sub-topic of BMO Reorg Phase 2)

Roundtable

Status Updates

dmose

• message view work
• reviewed switch of email User-Agent header to use the full Gecko user-agent (bug 230182)
• started work to try and make chromebug usable in tb
• bug triage & driving work (2.0.0.17 approvals, etc.)

nth10sd

• More bug triage, bugdays etc.
• +1 to jcranmer's post on mozilla.dev.planning about TB bug number stats..
• Yes, UNCO bug numbers are still going down... :)
• Post-meeting edit: Spread Thunderbird first envisioned on October 3rd 2004. :D
  • Back then, Firefox was just 0.10.1, and Thunderbird, 0.8

jcranmer

• Updated IMAP fakeserver patch, currently tracking down problems
• AB refactoring awaiting dmose's review
• bug 311774 (one of 2 major news unread bugs) complete except for tests

Standard8

• Reviews & Driving
• Build
  • bug 451981 Added a package-compare target and got gozer to hook it up to tinderboxes - we can now reasonably easily see if we're missing packaging items into the windows build (useful for a pre-release check).
  • bug 453110 Started updating the packaging file...
• L10N
  • Added to the instruction pages for L10N builds.
  • bug 445146 Moving editor/ui to comm-central.
• Password Manager
  • bug 419595 nsLDAPURL update (still needs one more update)
• Inline Edit Card Dialog
  • bug 452614 Provide nsIAbCard::hasEmailAddress
  • bug 453301 Provide a function to add a single contact to the collected address book.
  • bug 450724 Three patches now posted, last one to actually add the star to be done.
• Misc
  • bug 451257 Composing a message after the contacts sidebar was closed sometimes crashes Thunderbird.
  • bug 452419 Message Header display shouldn't get the show references pref for each item of the header displayed.

asuth

• (light week)
• first batch of gloda unit tests basically ready; need to alter code to not use settimeout in the unit test case...
• got "exptoolbar" working with minimal required changes to thunderbird (just need toolkit autocomplete turned on). Gloda now feeds a search db view, works quite nicely. (This is the "bubble" stuff).

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving
• fix truncated message pop3 download for global inbox, bug 450649
• Continued work on auto config;
• maintain kewyords on imap detach/delete if server supports keywords, bug 440366
• fix edit cut/copy/paste/delete menu items bug 448326
• fix crash in debug builds downloading pop3 mail into global inbox, bug 452521
• fix offline tag change playback bug 141606

emre

• Worked on
  • bug 436615: submitted, in review process
  • bug 452615: submitted, in review process
• Working on
  • bug 440794: Async send operation
  • bug 439089: Auto-compacting

gozer

• The Calendar folks have a few test accounts on our test Zimbra server
• Got package-compare running on the nightlies bug 451981
• OSX buildsymbols should now be complete and cover universal binaries bug 448616
• Started testing Lightning/gdata comm-central build setup
• Mock start page server is up and running
• Need to setup staging/prod www infrastructure
  • davida: How does it currently work ?
  • Ready to switch over www.mozillamessaging.com
• We are running our own e-mail now
  • Nobody should have noticed!
  • Good side-effect is that our production blades are now in a full HA config
  • Still need to get MoCo's to set themselves up as our secondary MXes
• Real-life disruptions should be over

clarkbw

• A bunch of Preferences Bug work w/ Patches
  • User:Clarkbw/Preferences
  • bug 452909 — remove the shredder start page preference from the general tab
  • bug 452890 — move System Defaults from General to Advanced -> General
  • bug 452711 — use firefox default font chooser for display
  • bug 451620 — remove the Advanced Preference for Connection timeout
• Started on
  • Thunderbird:Menus
• Getting back to
  • bug 123440 — annoying connection error dialogs
    • Thunderbird:Connection Errors
  • bug 231654 — Key combos wrt folder pane
  • bug 271589 — popups accumulate if they are not canceled
  • Thunderbird:Calendar Integration

wsmwk

• Triaged all bugs with patches mscott r? and sr? - all bugs have been touched or patch owner contacted. Was ~30-35 reviews, now down to 13 bugs in the review list
• Created and kicked off Patch Love
• Bugday and triage
• Marked [delight] bugs

beckley

• My filter only selected messages in a mailbox was reviewed and checked in bug 444209
• My redirect feature was accepted and checked in bug 359226
• Commented on how new message notification works in Classic Eudora bug 11040
• Reviewed Sid's Vista Search Integration patch bug 430614
• A new hg repository for Penelope has been created, and now just needs to be populated with the code in CVS bug 451402
• Fixed a build problem for DOM Inspector when working with read-only source code setups bug 452851
• Helped review some code for some Penelope devs submitting bugs bug 451438
• Will be fixing a filter import bug this week for beta 1 bug 432851

KaiRo

• Ported some build system fixes to comm-central bug 452504
• Fixed relative l10n-base dir (bug 452760), make install (bug 452962), basic building of the Qt port (bug 450957), and autoconf 2.13 detection (bug 450967) - no need to declare the AUTOCONF environment variable with the usual binary names any more, not even on Debian or ubuntu.
• Did some cleanup of old code from the XPFE era
• Got most of the things to run for creating SeaMonkey L10n builds with out buildbots, porting this to Thunderbird buildbots configs should be easy

rebron

• Put together marketing roadmap
• Working on web site redesign, wrapped up the rfp.
• Put plan for together for SpreadThunderbird.
• Got the pr plan reviewed, pr activities in motion.
• Working on start page content.

mkmelin

• Working on bug 231654 - make delete normally only apply to the threadpane - too easy to accidentally delete folder
• bug 234665 [avaiting review] - Delete button should re-text to "Undelete" when a deleted message is selected
• bug 305089 [avaiting review] - Don't mark as scam any mail composed by user (Drafts, Templates, Sent, Outbox folders)
• bug 452661 - the scam detector doesn't work anymore

Attendees

gozer, dmose, sipaq, beckley, bienvenu, nth10sd, wsmwk, emre, asuth, clarkbw, KaiRo, rebron, Standard8