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=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
* gozer to file bug re getting alpha bits signed
* gozer to ping mrz about separate messaging crash-stats server
* dmose to do another round of updates on reviewers
==== Open ====
==== Open ====
* davida: reschedule meeting, to Wednesdays? - calendar folk will be on future status calls
** See [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/msg/2f02d2d6e58ce594 the newsgroup post] if you haven't already.
** Hard to find a time that works for all timezones.  Maybe have to stick with current schedules, and find more ways to cross-pollinate.


==== Closed ====
==== Closed ====
* gozer to file bug re bouncer for alpha 3 {{bug|458904}}


=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0a3|Shredder Alpha 3]] ===
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0a3|Shredder Alpha 3]] ===
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* Standard8 is the release driver
* Standard8 is the release driver
* wsmwk is the QA lead of Beta 1
* wsmwk is the QA lead of Beta 1
* QA in progress, against build3 respin:
* QA in progress (Localizations, Smoke Tests, Basic Functional Testing), against build3 respin:
** [[QA/Thunderbird3/TestInstructions/Alpha3]]
** [[QA/Thunderbird3/TestInstructions/Alpha3]]
** [[QA/Thunderbird3/TestResults/Alpha3]]
** [[QA/Thunderbird3/TestResults/Alpha3]]
** expanded [[Thunderbird3/TestResults/Alpha3/L10N|l10n matrix]], mostly for future releases
** expanded [[Thunderbird3/TestResults/Alpha3/L10N|l10n matrix]], mostly for future releases
** Current ETA: Thursday/Friday
* Current release ETA: Monday
* gozer: signing of bits process is still being figured out; working with firefox build/release team
* kairo: for bouncer stuff, should file a bug ASAP to get necessarily lead time
* Standard8: release notes in progress (bug 457186); people should proofread, gozer will push update.


=== Thunderbird 3 ===
=== Thunderbird 3 ===


* Draft [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]] identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 -- much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
* Draft [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap]] identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 -- much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
** folks interested in helping with front-end stuff, some simple, should ask in #maildev
** dmose, bienvenu, asuth focusing on GloDa work
* bienvenu will be the primary driver for beta 1
* davida working out landing strategy for remaining features


=== QA Updates ===
=== QA Updates ===
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* [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/ crash stats]  
* [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/ crash stats]  
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/?do_query=1&product=Thunderbird&branch=1.9.1&platform=mac&query_search=signature&query_type=contains&query=&date=&range_value=2&range_unit=weeks 1.9.1-based Mac crashers] mostly have symbols in crashes, but not all  
** [http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/?do_query=1&product=Thunderbird&branch=1.9.1&platform=mac&query_search=signature&query_type=contains&query=&date=&range_value=2&range_unit=weeks 1.9.1-based Mac crashers] mostly have symbols in crashes, but not all  
** (gozer?) The OSX/Intel problems can most likely worked around for the RC, by simply running dump_symbols repeatedly until it runs once without failing.  
** The OSX/Intel problems can most likely worked around for the RC, by simply running dump_symbols repeatedly until it runs once without failing. [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=450485#c15 bug 450485]
** should we have our own server?
*** gozer to talk to mrz
* bugday last week [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-10-02|10-02]] and this week [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-10-09|10-09]] continue focus on trunk bugs.  [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Thunderbird&datasets=NEW%3A&datasets=ASSIGNED%3A&datasets=REOPENED%3A&datasets=UNCONFIRMED%3A chart]
* bugday last week [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-10-02|10-02]] and this week [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-10-09|10-09]] continue focus on trunk bugs.  [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/reports.cgi?product=Thunderbird&datasets=NEW%3A&datasets=ASSIGNED%3A&datasets=REOPENED%3A&datasets=UNCONFIRMED%3A chart]
* [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers thunderbird-testers] operating and now up to 53 members! (public mailing list to inform the testing community)
* [https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/thunderbird-testers thunderbird-testers] operating and now up to 53 members! (public mailing list to inform the testing community)


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===
* folks encouraged to run with gloda, lightning-in-tabs patches now, so they can get shake-out before they land.  ping asuth if you're interested.
* calendar work proposal from last meeting: pace work in short sprints
* everyone encouraged to focus on highest-value stuff for Tb3, given the amount of work remaining


==== Status Updates ====
==== Status Updates ====


===== davida =====
===== davida =====
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===== dmose =====
===== dmose =====
* drove/blogged renaming of 3.0b1 to 3.0a3
* drove/blogged renaming of 3.0b1 to 3.0a3
* worked on adding recipient info to collapsed header view  
* worked on adding recipient info to collapsed header view and sharing of buttons between both views
  and sharing of buttons between both views
* lunch w/lisad & myk about webmail standard
* lunch w/lisad & myk about webmail standard
* correspondence with XMPP community folks
* correspondence with XMPP community folks
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===== emre =====
===== emre =====
* Worked on
**{{bug|457342}}: Error handling improvement in auto-sync: Patch is submitted, waiting for review
**{{bug|547452}}: Leaking on shutdown problem: Patch is submitted, waiting for review
**{{bug|457784}}: autosync_offline_stores pref and offline inbox: Patch landed
**{{bug|440794}}: Async send: Work in progress


===== gozer =====
===== gozer =====
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===== clarkbw =====
===== clarkbw =====
* bugs still to be worked on
** {{bug|448288}} — group actions collapsed threads
** {{bug|452440}} — message pane shouldn't be blank
* thunderbird search
** some cleanups to (exptoolbar) {{bug|452281}}
** need to work on search results
* message reader
** worked on [http://clarkbw.net/designs/inline-dialogs/ inline dialogs] prototype for better keyboard and mouse access to actions
* [http://clarkbw.net/designs/tabbing/thundertab/ thundertab] {{bug|218999}}
** worked on calendar in tabs {{bug|402365}}
** created initial mockup of [http://clarkbw.net/designs/tabbing/tab-tasks-(simple-port).png tasks in tabs]
** actively working on address book in tabs {{bug|457270}}


===== wsmwk =====
===== wsmwk =====


===== beckley =====
===== beckley =====
====== penelope ======
* 0.something beta within the next couple of weeks
* old eudora still works; but is long in the tooth


===== KaiRo =====
===== KaiRo =====
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===== rebron =====
===== rebron =====
* Continuing [http://www.rebron.org/marketing/website/ web site] work.  Updated timeline, going through content. 
* SpreadThunderbird work.  Team decided the need to upgrade to Drupal 6.x because of feature set and theme support.
* Drafting market segmentation w/ Mozilla Marketing team. 
* PR prep Alpha 3 and David's Paris trip.


===== mkmelin =====
===== mkmelin =====
* {{bug|192330}} - Ctrl+Shift+V for Paste Without Formatting
* imap trash folder bugs - {{bug|427311}} and {{bug|450712}}
* {{bug|400931}}: Enable predefined  IMAP settings for Gmail
* {{bug|458601}}: port the full zoom UI to thunderbird
* working on patch to hook up gtk stock icons for thunderbird menu items (no bug, yet)


=== Attendees ===
=== Attendees ===


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Thunderbird Meeting Details

Agenda

Action Items

  • gozer to file bug re getting alpha bits signed
  • gozer to ping mrz about separate messaging crash-stats server
  • dmose to do another round of updates on reviewers

Open

Closed

  • gozer to file bug re bouncer for alpha 3 bug 458904

Shredder Alpha 3

  • Shredder Alpha 3
  • Standard8 is the release driver
  • wsmwk is the QA lead of Beta 1
  • QA in progress (Localizations, Smoke Tests, Basic Functional Testing), against build3 respin:
  • Current release ETA: Monday
  • gozer: signing of bits process is still being figured out; working with firefox build/release team
  • kairo: for bouncer stuff, should file a bug ASAP to get necessarily lead time
  • Standard8: release notes in progress (bug 457186); people should proofread, gozer will push update.

Thunderbird 3

  • Draft Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 -- much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
    • folks interested in helping with front-end stuff, some simple, should ask in #maildev
    • dmose, bienvenu, asuth focusing on GloDa work
  • bienvenu will be the primary driver for beta 1
  • davida working out landing strategy for remaining features

QA Updates

  • crash stats
    • 1.9.1-based Mac crashers mostly have symbols in crashes, but not all
    • The OSX/Intel problems can most likely worked around for the RC, by simply running dump_symbols repeatedly until it runs once without failing. bug 450485
    • should we have our own server?
      • gozer to talk to mrz
  • bugday last week 10-02 and this week 10-09 continue focus on trunk bugs. chart
  • thunderbird-testers operating and now up to 53 members! (public mailing list to inform the testing community)

Roundtable

  • folks encouraged to run with gloda, lightning-in-tabs patches now, so they can get shake-out before they land. ping asuth if you're interested.
  • calendar work proposal from last meeting: pace work in short sprints
  • everyone encouraged to focus on highest-value stuff for Tb3, given the amount of work remaining

Status Updates

davida
dmose
  • drove/blogged renaming of 3.0b1 to 3.0a3
  • worked on adding recipient info to collapsed header view and sharing of buttons between both views
  • lunch w/lisad & myk about webmail standard
  • correspondence with XMPP community folks
  • various driving stuff
  • gloda review work
nth10sd
  • Tested emre's leak patch and asuth's gloda / exptoolbar extensions.
  • Would like to point out the ever-existing security exploits in JS. Just found one that affected JS. (specifically Shiretoko nightlies but indirectly TB with JS on, if it can be enabled)
  • Continuing bug cleanup. UNCO continues to remain below NEW.
jcranmer
  • kill-rdf testing and work
    • Subscribe dialog under review bug 457333, will land separately
  • Account type extensibility documentation
  • Will have long weekend, more time for TB work!
Standard8
  • Reviews & Driving (trying to catch up this week)
  • Release Notes updates bug 457186 and bug 430762
  • bug 427980 Mail Bloat Test - Revised and updated patch, now in tree.
  • bug 308552 Worked out why Growl integration wasn't registering correctly and fixed.
  • bug 458692 Removed unused param from nsIMsgHeaderParser interfaces.
  • bug 458716 Fix return/escape on the inline edit card dialog
  • Started rapid-prototyping new nsLDAPConnection & friends to try and finally resolve the LDAP/SSL hang on shutdown, (the true cause of bug 382446)
asuth
  • tab changes for calendar, thunderbar search views bug 402365 (also see exptoolbar and gloda)
  • gloda shutdown cleanup; don't think it ever worked right since the last cleanup logic refactoring
  • processing gloda review comments, more to go. hoping to have them the current batch cleared out by sometime wednesday. See auto-generated docs here if you like that kind of thing. They will of course be improving as I fill dmose's request for thorough doxygen. (We have the goal of landing gloda this week.)
bienvenu
  • Reviews and Driving
  • Fixed assertion trying to restore selection to non-existent message, bug 457757
  • Checked in follow on fix for bug 444417, imap undo can cause hourglass, bail out on invalid imap urls early
  • Checked in fix for assertion about db having key in the case of partial uid fetches, bug 455963
  • Made a lot of progress on cross-folder saved search threading and grouping repo - will try to start review process today.
emre
  • Worked on
    • bug 457342: Error handling improvement in auto-sync: Patch is submitted, waiting for review
    • bug 547452: Leaking on shutdown problem: Patch is submitted, waiting for review
    • bug 457784: autosync_offline_stores pref and offline inbox: Patch landed
    • bug 440794: Async send: Work in progress
gozer
  • Build Engineering
    • Thunderbird Beta 1 Build 1
    • Thunderbird Alpha 3 Build 2
      • Incorrectly tagged comm-central, excluding the jp patch we wanted ;-(
    • Thunderbird Alpha 3 Build 3
      • Still need completing the Build Notes & Post Mortem Notes
      • Ghetto automation kept it fairly straight forward, mostly completed in < 4 hours and little human intervention.
      • Entire process still too reliant on cut-n-paste
      • Cloning turned out to be a great idea.
      • Very few glitches (one broken locale needed fixing, retagging: 'ca')
      • Got a few build system improvements ideas to file as bugs for next time, mostly around l10n repackaging
  • L10N
    • Calendar on l10n.mozillamessasging.com
    • SeaMonkey on l10n.mozillamessaging.com
    • Very annoying it's impossible to link to a particular page
      • Anybody know how to do this with MIT's Simile Stuff ?
clarkbw
wsmwk
beckley
penelope
  • 0.something beta within the next couple of weeks
  • old eudora still works; but is long in the tooth
KaiRo
rkent
rebron
  • Continuing web site work. Updated timeline, going through content.
  • SpreadThunderbird work. Team decided the need to upgrade to Drupal 6.x because of feature set and theme support.
  • Drafting market segmentation w/ Mozilla Marketing team.
  • PR prep Alpha 3 and David's Paris trip.
mkmelin
  • bug 192330 - Ctrl+Shift+V for Paste Without Formatting
  • imap trash folder bugs - bug 427311 and bug 450712
  • bug 400931: Enable predefined IMAP settings for Gmail
  • bug 458601: port the full zoom UI to thunderbird
  • working on patch to hook up gtk stock icons for thunderbird menu items (no bug, yet)

Attendees

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