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=November 2 meeting=
'''Please visit the [[Add-ons|Add-ons wiki pages]] for up to date information.'''
Meeting opened:


Present:
= AMO Project Meeting Details  =
* Mondays, 10:30am Pacific
* Vidyo: All Your Base
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==Agenda==
* [https://mail.mozilla.com/home/wclouser@mozilla.com/AMO%20Schedule.html Release Schedule]
* (was there a meeting last week?)
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=addons.mozilla.org;status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr;status_whiteboard=%5Bgood%20first%20bug%5D;resolution=--- Good First Bugs] New to contributing? These are a good start.
** Yes lol, just seems nobody took any notes :s
* Mark had questions about the status of load-testing for vanilla stuff; where are we?
* shaver and Mark talked about some of the Vanilla integration bits for Remora, see [[Update:Remora_Vanilla_Integration|Remora_Vanilla_Integration]]
* some discussion of dictionaries page
** we'll want a custom controller here, aping what we currently do on v2 for the foreseeable future
** "informal" dictionaries are not a priority at all, don't let them confuse you!
** [[User:Cameron/Dictionary_thoughts]]
* rustico turns out to be the design target for Remora, yay; it's motorbike time!
* Gavin working on opensearch-to-sherlock converter for us
* what are the gaps between v2 and remora-trunk?
** approval queue?
** preview-image upload
** comments/ratings
** RSS?
** user manager?
** ACLs
** hash computation at upload?
** other-app support
* Can we change the meeting time? DST Means it's at 3:30 AM for me now (used to be 1:30 AM which wasn't so much a problem.) How does 3pm PST work for everyone else? [[User:Cameron|Cameron]] 08:30, 2 November 2006 (PST)


==Roundtable==
== August 20, 2012 ==
Justin's out! Will make do with Caitlin and Wil :-)
* dates due [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqMmxHRazC75dEZGU1FUMG5mWlBYWEJMRnVuanQ5dEE Marketplace Basecamp]
* issues / risks this week? (Caitlin)


Meeting closed:
=== Weekly updates ===
* Rick's payments update (Caitlin)
* changes in the Marketplace weekly meeting (Caitlin)


=October 26 meeting=
== August 13, 2012 ==
Regrets: shaver, sancus (both at FSOSS)
=== Weekly updates ===
* pushed ratings/reviews live
* load tester lives
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem;remaction=run;namedcmd=2012-08-16;sharer_id=177149;list_id=4022183 this week's bugs]


* shaver items:
=== Discussion items ===
** thanks to everyone for their help with the Fx2/rustico push!
* Payments
** load-testing status?
** l10n status?
** vanilla status?
** looking forward to being back on Remora!
** do we have a sense of where we are in terms of parity with v1/v2?
** I love you guys so much!
** random thought: should we see if the mycroft guys want to work with us on the search-engine stuff for Remora?
* sancus items:
** committed link helper
*** Basically helper functions to build urls to any part of the site. I thought it made sense to have all links built by functions for consistency and to make it easy to change them.
** browse/category page taking longer than expected because I had to create a page we have no mockup for(category list) and fixed some random cake problems(invalidFields, hi2u).
** Most of that is worked out though and should be done today/tomorrow, fsoss stuff is slowing me down a *little*
** Do we need a user display page that lists information about that user and their addons?
** Need to write model tests so that the invalidFields problem doesn't happen again(read from the db, write to the db, delete written data with each model)


=October 19 meeting=
== August 6, 2012 ==
Present: shaver, morgamic, sancus, clouserw, fligtar, lars, cameron (late)
=== Weekly updates ===


* Vanilla user profile information
=== Discussion Items ===
** is user_icon the only user-editable vanilla field we have to put on the edit page?
* August 28
*** no others known right now
** What processing does vanilla do with such an icon, and how do we want to handle that in our software
*** mark: ?
** Will we use the user icon on our side too? How?
*** in forums, maybe next to reviews and in user pages?


* modified field in the Addons table will be updated every time totaldownloads changes, making it useless?
== July 23, 2012 ==
** download data will be maintained by another script out-of-band
(clouserw running)
** what other stats do we want to track for trending, etc.?
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* Review https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketplace/Basecamp
* No meeting next week due to Apps work week


* sancus: remove reviews content from display currently?
== July 16, 2012 ==
** shaver: yeah, let's remove it for now
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* Introductions
* (clouserw) HA Availability questions?
* (clouserw) certified vs trusted vs web installed.  what?


* lars: work beyond the next 2 weeks?
== July 9, 2012 ==
** blocking on URLs for testing of load
=== Weekly updates ===
*** some provided by morgamic, still need vanilla ones
* What went live last week
** what machines to run grinder on? (need 3)
* What we plan to push this week
*** seneca machines? not sure about the network latency/consistency
=== Discussion Items ===
**** network doesn't look suitable at the moment, we can revisit when it gets sorted
* Aug 28 public alpha for desktop/android, betas every couple of months after that
*** will do the testing against remora.stage, IT will switch DNS to point to prod for "real" test
* Trying to nail down identity and payments plan


* vanilla caching
== Jul 2, 2012 ==
** need to figure out how to invalidate caches on the netscaler
* (clouserw) UX Update
*** shaver: the apache-esque headers should work
* (clouserw) july 5th demo
* (clouserw) Mon/Wed is a holiday


* translation stuff
== Jun 25, 2012 ==
** need to refine the examples and doc as guide for Mark and others
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* basta in the house
* interns are doing an "apps hack day" on Saturday, July 7th if you want to hang out
* need to determine how the goals in our release milestones match up with basecamp
*


* vanilla layouts
== Jun 18, 2012 ==
** can we use cake views/layouts outside of cake?
=== Weekly updates ===
*** shaver: can probably do it, not sure if it's worth it
* What went live last week
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* Introductions
* Payments update


* ACLs:
== Jun 11, 2012 ==
** do we want to do ACLs everywhere?
=== Weekly updates ===
*** probably just on the stuff we know needs protection, not the usual views
* What went live last week
**** explicitly list actions that are "public" for default deny?
* What we plan to push this week
**** var $publicActions; for those
=== Discussion Items ===


* association splitting
== Jun 04, 2012 ==
** moved lesser-used associations to _full variants, call bindFully to get them in place for the next find
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* Introductions! if applicable
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketplace/Features Feature pages]
* [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mkt-dev-schedule etherpad] lists what people are working on
* Add-ons Work Week [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/addons-workweek-2012Q2 schedule]
* clouserw is in transit to mountain view
* 3 weeks until the June milestone! https://wiki.mozilla.org/Marketplace/Releases
* WebRT is highest priority over other browsers
* <3, etc.


* morgamic updated schedule to reflect time used
== May 21, 2012 ==
** is this valuable? people move between tasks a bunch
=== Weekly updates ===
*** probably good to
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes [http://cl.ly/052Q1F3l3J0k0R0S191H 2012-05-17]
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* Discuss Basecamp and [[Marketplace/Releases|upcoming releases]]


* sancus: home page stuff done, but new tests are killing the web server
** category page likewise
** travelling Tuesday, at symposium Thu/Fri


* mark (part played by morgamic): finishing the setting up of vanilla, working on l10n and caching next
== May 14, 2012 ==
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes [http://cl.ly/351i253I3l3L2844321J 2012-05-10]
** Compatibility reports for Add-ons  via Dev Hub
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* Discuss Basecamp and [[Marketplace/Releases|upcoming releases]]
* personas going onto the Marketplace directly
* Turned off the sphinx!
* personas bugs?


* clouserw: next week busy with mozilla.com, won't have cycles for l10n in the coming week
== May 7, 2012 ==
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes [http://cl.ly/1J2A0Y3A0B471C161G1D 6.5.3]
* What we plan to push this week
=== Discussion Items ===
* market announcement tomorrow (Tuesday) @ 10am
* {{bug|752007}} - Kilimanjaro milestone
* {{bug|752013}} - June milestone
* [https://people.mozilla.org/~cwiemeersch/mkt-timeline Planning for Marketplace]


* fligtar:
=== Goals for this week's Show and Tell ===


* wenzel (part played by morgamic): working on edit-user, a bit stuck on l10n stuff, working on
== April 23, 2012 ==
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes [http://cl.ly/1q0L1K443X1p1340402l 6.5.1]
* What we plan to push this week
** MP Consumer pages


* morgamic: ACL stuff was painful, going to check in for wider review, then onto with load testing
=== April 26 Beta Status ===
* Features being worked on (See [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mkt-dev-schedule dev priorities]  for more details)


* shaver: Fx2 launch/static page work, some optimization stuff being done in the background, out at symposium on Thurs/Fri of next week
* Product/Marketing/Misc. updates


=October 12 meeting=
=== Goals for this week's Show and Tell ===
* Microsummaries as add-on type?
* The whole thing with roadblock
** We already answered that, kind of up in the air.
* New search plugin format
** In fx2 they are no longer using .src file, they are using .xml files.
* Resolving the latest [[Update:TroublesInAddonMigration#The_Addon_Version_to_Files_to_Application_Versions_Problem|migration problem]]
** Solution #2, cull bad data because it sucks.
* Load testing
** Set up URIs for Lars
** Talk to Justin about setting up machines (multiple)
** Stage the tests
** Schedule window
** Execute
** Mark
*** Milestone of getting forum up so we can abuse it (by next Friday)
*** Add vanilla db, code, etc., get it up on stage
*** Will talk with Fred about session retrieval
*** Do you want user editing to be centralized or will vanilla stuff be edited from the forum interface?
** Try to have at least one heavily translated page to test l10n load capability
* ACL talk -- see [[Update:Remora_Permissions]]
* Template/nav, look and feel update?
** morgamic to work on crappyNav
* l10n -- where/how to localize dynamic data
** Wil to work on proof of concept, review by Monday
* 2.0 release work?
** Shaver, etc. has most of it covered, will use the HTML work for Remora to put up necessary pages -- may include some engr work, not sure how much.. ? (shaver please update if wrong)
* Schedule
* Roundtable
* Tests
** Mock models -- should they actually have access to the test datbase?  If they do have access, wtf?
** Why can't we see the session data?


=October 5 meeting=
=== Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy? ===
Meeting opened: 4:09 PM UTC/GMT (9:09 AM PDT)
* Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style - works
* Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place - 90% works
* Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) - works
* Video support - works
* Account History page - works
* In-app purchases consumer UI and flow - ke$ha; sexy but a little busted
* Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop - sucks; needs UX guidance
* Developer Hub landing pages - missing
* App review tools - works
* Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) - missing-ish


Present: Cameron, Clouserw, Lars, Morgamic, Sancus, Shaver, Wenzel
=== Discussion/Action Items ===
* (clouserw) If you're interested in giving a presentation at hacker school in NY (www.hackerschool.com) and then doing some recruiting let Laura know.  It's on July 9.
* (clouserw) anyone object to me flipping landfill.amo over to marketplace instead of AMO?  I think it would be more accessible for new folks
* (clouserw) How does everyone feel about sentry?


Schedule.  
== April 16, 2012 ==
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes [http://cl.ly/1k3h1Q1e0d3c353I041k 6.5.0]
* What we plan to push this week
** Video (If Davor fixes the frontend)
** D2C changes


Have to get the html stuff done pronto so that it can be localised. devCP stuff isn't so important as it won't be localised at launch.
=== April 26 Beta Status ===
* Features being worked on (See [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/mkt-dev-schedule dev priorities]  for more details)
** Currencies + purchase flow (cvan)
** Pre-auth + purchase flow (davor)
** in-app payment backend - postbacks, security, etc (kumar)
** Homepage (potch)
** In-app frontend (potch)


* Product/Marketing/Misc. updates


Stuff that's in the database like category names, descriptions, etc.
=== Goals for this week's Show and Tell ===
* Receipts (Installing and Signing)
* Category browse pages
* Apps Stats page
* Reviewer tools
* Payment UI (One-click and in-app)


Localisers in the ACL so they can edit stuff through the devCP
=== Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy? ===
* Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style -
* Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place -
* Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) -
* Video support -
* Account History page -
* In-app purchases consumer UI and flow -
* Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop -
* Developer Hub landing pages -
* App review tools -
* Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) -


Add-on descriptions can be the responsibility of the developer - the people they get to localise their add-on, they can also get to localise a description and summary.
=== Discussion/Action Items ===
=== Action Items from last week ===
* Get rid of authentication for consumer pages - done
* Bill is working on getting Hardware keys for issuing and reissuing receipts -done
* Bill needs to talk about Apps in the Cloud. - done


Functionary milestones
== April 9, 2012 ==
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes (6.4.9)
** We did a 6.4.9.1 push for [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=742007 Bug 742007] and [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743043 Bug 743043]
* What we plan to push this week
** D2C changes (Better text notes around buttons about app support, possibly buttons.js changes)
** [http://cl.ly/1g2y2Y1P1I1b0H3f3x3z AMO 6.5.0]


15th october - l10n milestones
=== April 26 Beta Status ===
* Features being worked on
** Video Support (Andy)
** Apps Stats frontend (Davor)
** Apps Stats backend (cvan)
** Editor Tools (cvan)
** Currencies + purchase flow (cvan)
** Pre-auth + purchase flow (cvan)
** in-app payment backend (kumar)
** Homepage (potch)
** In-app frontend (potch/ davor)


more milestones for user auth, search, devCP, ratings, reviews etc.
* Product/Marketing/Misc. updates


string freeze 2 weeks or so before launch.
=== Goals for this week's Show and Tell ===
* Purchase flow (in-app and otherwise)


need to finalise l10n url structure today or tomorrow
=== Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy? ===
* Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style - <b>sucks</b>
* Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place - kinda <b>works</b>
* Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) - <b>works</b>
* Video support - <b>works</b>
* Account History page - <b>sexy</b>
* In-app purchases consumer UI and flow - kinda <b>works</b>
* Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop - <b>works</b>
* Developer Hub landing pages - ??
* App review tools - <b>works</b>
* Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) - <b>missing</b>


probably going to use cake to do this rather than mod_rewrite
=== Discussion/Action Items ===
* Get rid of authentication for consumer pages
* Bill is working on getting Hardware keys for issuing and reissuing receipts
* Bill needs to talk about Apps in the Cloud.


6 pages for launch
== April 2, 2012 ==
=== Weekly updates ===
* What went live last week
** Bug fixes (6.4.8)
** We did a 6.4.8.1 push for [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=740735 Bug 740735]
* What we plan to push this week
** Move off of PHP (Includes: Global stats, Collection stats, Login, install.php etc)
** D2C changes (Better text notes around buttons about app support, possibly buttons.js changes)
** 6.4.9 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---;resolution=DUPLICATE;query_format=advanced;target_milestone=6.4.9;product=addons.mozilla.org;list_id=2742208]


featured extensions (20-50)
=== April 26 Beta Status ===
* Features being worked on
** Video Support (Andy)
** Apps Stats frontend (Davor)
** Apps Stats backend (cvan)
** Editor Tools (cvan)
** Currencies + purchase flow (cvan)
** Pre-auth + purchase flow (cvan)
** in-app payment backend (kumar)
** Homepage (potch)
** In-app frontend (potch/ davor)


dictionaries
* Product/Marketing/Misc. updates


search engine plugins
=== Goals for this week's Show and Tell ===


bookmarks extensions
* Marketplace Editor Tools
* App stats
* Hot new purchase flow
* Videos
* Currencies


nobox is going to provide templates for all of these
=== Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy? ===
* Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style - <b>works</b>
* Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place - <b>sucks</b>
* Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) - <b>missing/sucks</b>, supposedly works as of 15 minutes ago. :)
* Video support - <b>missing</b>, andym landing something, hopefully to demo on friday
* Account History page - <b>works</b>
* In-app purchases consumer UI and flow - <b>sucks</b>
* Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop - <b>works</b>
* Developer Hub landing pages - <b>missing</b>, eta for something is 4/6
* App review tools - <b>sucks/works</b>, landing final pieces
* Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) - <b>sucks</b>


need to get updated screenshots, blurb, summary for all those extensions
=== Discussion Items ===
* Q1 goals
* Q2 goals
* [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rCGq9txTWE0YQnB6pMUMNns0Adn4B_Oe_hAHKr853U4/edit?hl=en_US Kilimanjaro]


install interaction work correctly - want to have static pages on addons.mozilla.org rather than crapping around like the google stuff
== March 26, 2012 ==
* Weekly updates
* April 26 Beta Status
** Visual design target Wednesday
* Goals for this week's Show and Tell
** Support flow
** Sexier payment
** Video uploading and display
* Q1 goals review


fx2 between 17th and 24th
== March 19, 2012 ==
* Weekly updates
* April 26 Beta Status [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rCGq9txTWE0YQnB6pMUMNns0Adn4B_Oe_hAHKr853U4/edit?hl=en_US&pli=1]
** Visual design plan: send links to Martell
** Release plan
** Carrier billing
* Goals for this week's Show and Tell
** Payments added to details page
** Search and browse results (bonus points: search suggestions)


dictionaries page needs to be localised
== March 12, 2012 ==
* Weekly updates
* UX update
** [http://people.mozilla.com/~clouserw/public/wikimo/appsuxschedule.png design flow plan]
** [http://people.mozilla.com/~clouserw/public/wikimo/appsuxtimeline.png Q1 design schedule]
** {{bug|734435}} - Implement consumer app detail page
*** [https://bug734435.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=604557 detail page UI (phone)]
*** [https://bug734435.bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=604558 detail page UI (tablet)]
* Schedule update [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1rCGq9txTWE0YQnB6pMUMNns0Adn4B_Oe_hAHKr853U4/edit?hl=en_US]
** '''Next deliverable is Consumer Beta on April 26'''
* Marketing
* Goals for this week's Show and Tell
** Details page from mock
* clouserw ooto next week


not worried about TB because the product team isn't yet clear on how they want the installation experience to work.
== March 5, 2012 ==
* MWC report
* Plan going forward
* Meeting format changes
* Community update
* Goals for this week's show and tell
** fligtar: price tiers, roadmap, new timelines
* Deleting reviews


1.3 for linux and 1.5 for windows? Fligtar wrote a nice [[Update:Remora_Schema#versions.approval|essay]] on it.
== February 27, 2012 ==
* '''No Meeting'''


Want to make this difficult to do because of the problems with approving them at different times.
== February 13, 2012 ==
* Weekly Releases
* Developer Registration Update
* UX update
* [clouserw+jorgev] talk about new reviewer tools plan.  Tracker is {{bug|725830}}
* Week goals
** fligtar - roadmap and price tiers
** cvan - submission flow at dev hub
** potch - modal component of details page in responsive flow
** refund management page done
** andy - uploading videos


Add approval state to files asap
== February 6, 2012 ==
* Weekly Releases
* Scaling the marketplace
* [http://micropipes.com/temp/dj_kumar.jpg this happened]
* Roadmap
* Developer Beta Update
* UX update
* Payments
* Feedback on Friday show and tell


cake created/modified fields for HABTM relationships
== January 30, 2012 ==
* Weekly Releases
* Personas renaming
* Roadmap
* Developer Beta Update
* UX update
* Payments


== Roundtable ==
== January 23, 2012 ==
Shaver: Static pages for Fx2 launch. Hope to finish up search result stuff
* [https://intranet.mozilla.org/2012Q1Goals#Marketplace_.26_Add-ons_Ecosystem Q1 Goals]
* Developer Beta Update
* Weekly Releases
** What's in the next milestone?
* UX update


Wenzel: Implemented search. User registration, login, logout, etc.
== December 19, 2011 ==
*Going out this week
**6.3.6 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-6-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.6}}


Lars: Tweaked migration script as stuff changed. Spent time working out grinder.
== December 12, 2011 ==
*Going out this week
**6.3.5 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-5-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.5}}
* 6.3.4 still has some open bugs.  Talk to Wil about where you're at.
* Apps release dry-run today, real thing is tomorrow.
* New jetpack SDK is going out today on builder.amo
* No email makes clouserw and probably others sad pandas.  Behind on pretty much all of that. :(


Sancus: Image controller. Category html.


Clouserw: Mozilla.com  
== December 5, 2011 ==
*Going out this week
**6.3.4 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-4-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.4}}
* Developer Preview status: http://people.mozilla.com/~bwalker/test.html
** Deadline is Dec 8th (Thursday)
* Firefox Compatibility.
** Bump ran last week. No reported problems so far.
** Mobile bump will be run today.
* [[User:Jorge.villalobos/ReviewTeams|Review Teams Proposal]] -> Jorge.


Cameron: Sweet FA. Going to miss the next meeting due to 4wding, hiking and holidaying.
== November 21, 2011 ==
*Went out last week
**6.3.2 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-2-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.2}}
** How'd it go? What went out?
*Going out this week
**Anything?
*Going out next week
**6.3.3 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-3-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.3}}
*Firefox compatibility
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=699134 Roboform blocklisted]. Admin tools were a bit of a problem.
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&query_format=advanced&status_whiteboard=%5Bfx10%5D&product=addons.mozilla.org&list_id=1746109 Validation bugs] filed. Will be fixed next week.
*Marketplace status
*Apps status
*Other


Morgamic: Scheduling with shaver, planning etc. Services today and tomorrow. Header/footer navigation etc. Going to sit down with Fligtar and talk about devcp
== November 14, 2011 ==
* 6.3.2 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-2-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.2}}
* This is our last week to work on our app-preview launch.  Stuff related to that is highest priority.  Please look through your bugs today (during the meeting, even!).
** If you have too many P1/2s:  Say something in IRC and we'll spread them out
** If you want some P1/2s:  Say something in IRC :)


Going to spend more time on keeping everyone up to date with what's complete and what's not, what we need to do and how we're going with target feature milestones.


Meeting closed: 4:53 PM UTC/GMT (9:53 AM PDT)
== October 31, 2011 ==
*Went out last week
**6.2.9 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-9-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.9}}
** Discovery Pane was broken for 2 hours 15 minutes; noticed after 1 hour 5 minutes. (250,000 views during that time)
** We need a clearer critical issue rollback policy.
*Going out this week
**6.3.0 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-0-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.0}}
*Going out next week
**6.3.1 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-3-1-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.3.1}}
*Firefox compatibility
** Firefox 8 compatibility is at [https://addons.mozilla.org/z/en-US/firefox/compatibility/8.0?type=all 92% / 77%]
*Marketplace status
*Apps status
** [https://docs.google.com/document/d/1Fn0rO8sjmbn3dQh_F53nd-WYgpRYgaaCfjnNXBK7hx8/edit Developer Preview] Nov. 22
** UX team


=September 28 meeting=
== October 24, 2011 ==
*Went out last week
**6.2.8 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-8-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.8}}
**Any open issues or regressions from the push?
*Going out this week
**6.2.9 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-9-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.9}}
*Going out next week
**6.2.10 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-10-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.10}}
*Firefox compatibility
** Compatibility bump for desktop ran last week. [https://addons.mozilla.org/z/en-US/admin/validation 4021 files were upgraded].
** Mobile bump wasn't performed due to [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=696511 suspicious results].
** Firefox 8 compatibility is at [https://addons.mozilla.org/z/en-US/firefox/compatibility/8.0?type=all 91% / 76%]
*Marketplace status
*Apps status
*Welcome Amy Tsay, our new community manager!!


Present: sancus, cameron, schrep, morgamic, clouserw, wenzel, lars, shaver
== October 17, 2011 ==
*Went out last week
**6.2.7 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-7-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.7}}
**Any open issues or regressions from the push?
*Going out this week
**6.2.8 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-8-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.8}}
*Going out next week
**6.2.9 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-9-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.9}}
*Firefox compatibility
*Marketplace status
*Apps status
*Merging selenium tests with zamboni


==Agenda==
== October 10, 2011 ==
* Talk about search. (clouserw)
*Went out last week
** Some discussion here: [[Update:Remora_Idea_Dump#Search]]
**6.2.6 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-6-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.6}}
*** shaver: I think we need order independence for launch (I've written a test), don't need boolean operations. Should have rating sort within each "group" of results (name, summary, description), not strictly a launch-stopper IMO.
**Any open issues or regressions from the push?  
* Talk about l10n (clouserw)
*Going out this week
** Specifically, I want to cover database interactions - how are users going to contribute?  (shaver says .csvs - shall we plan something friendlier/more managable?)
**6.2.7 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-7-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.7}}
*** shaver: don't need anything more for things like category-name translations for launch, let's defer that planning until at least after we have the CSV stuff in place
*Going out next week
* Marketing/identity topics (cbeard):
**6.2.8 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-8-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.8}}
** Site presentation / layout
*Firefox compatibility
** Additional graphics / design info
** 8 -> 9 bump happening this week (hopefully).
** Developer relations
** Testing mobile bumps on stage.
** Top 50 vs. the rest of the universe -- how we will split the two, if at all
*Marketplace status
*** UI-driven separation between recommended items and the rest of the land?
*Apps status
*** Two sites?
**** shaver: Initially two sites, as per [[Update:Remora_Requirements]]
**** shaver: we need to figure out how to link from addons.mozilla.com to addons.mozilla.org and vice versa
* IT topics (schrep):
** Staging server for v3
*** shaver: as per conversations with justin a while back, we're going to be getting "read-only" access to the staging servers for log viewing and profiling; not sure where that's at
* Layout elements, navigation helper
* Master/slave database configs, how to switch in controllers
* Routing standards, mapping to v2 URIs
** do we need to support v2 URIs at launch? (shaver)
* Wiki updates needed
** Installation instructions for IT
* Outstanding task list: [[User:Shaver/Remora_Task_Dump]]


* l10n
== October 3, 2011  ==
** not using translation2 any more, just the Translation model
** won't be able to use cake list-generation helpers as-is, can just write code by hand
** gettext: waiting on views to generate po files
** locale selected based on lang= parameter
*** rewrite-based
*** needs test for selection process
** gettext: state
*** clouserw to work on one view (add-on display) as example and test today


* staging
*Went out last week
** morgamic to investigate
**6.2.5 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-5-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.5}}
**Any open issues or regressions from the push?
*Going out this week
**6.2.6 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-6-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.6}}
*Going out next week
**6.2.7 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org/amo-6-2-7-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.7}}
*Firefox 9 compatibility
**7.* -&gt; 8.* bump was put on hold due to [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=690975 bug 690975]. Need the fix in prod ASAP top run this bump on Tuesday or Wednesday.
**Jorge looking for breaking changes in 9. About 40% done, should finish in a day or two. Will begin filing compatibility bugs today.
**fligtar: the compatibility dashboard should point to 8 now.
*Marketplace status
*Apps status
*[https://intranet.mozilla.org/2011Q4Goals#Add-ons Q4 goals]


==Roundtable==
== September 26, 2011 ==
* Going out this week
** 6.2.5 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org:9000/amo-6-2-5-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.5}}
** Last week in the quarter!  Lots going out (see push notes).  Let's close QA bugs asap so we can verify features.
** (new page candidates and notable bug fixes go here)
* Going out next week
** 6.2.6 [http://etherpad.mozilla.org:9000/amo-6-2-6-push push notes], {{AMOMilestoneInline|6.2.6}}
** (new page candidates and notable bug fixes go here)
* Compatibility status
** Firefox 7 tomorrow!
** Why did the 6->7 bump miss so many add-ons? {{Bug|688883}}
** {{bug|688759}}
* Marketplace status
** Contract
** BD
** Designs/specs
* Apps status
** Apps/Add-ons combo
* Compressing Assets on AMO
** Already emailed about it, but I figure I'll tell people how to upgrade in case they ignored it.
* Discussion of next month's event
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&remaction=run&namedcmd=AMONewFeatures&sharer_id=177149&list_id=1363852 tracking bug pool is growing]


* Cameron: version spreadsheet sent to Lars, has a lot of drinking to do this weekend
==== Other  ====
* Lars: version rationalizations now in the migration script, and script updated to the current schema; available for SQL wizardry (search?!?)
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* sancus: updated test dataset for more test data info, working on image retrieval
** working on HTML for home and browse pages (might get help from silverorange)
** HABTMWTFBBQ? gotta do it by hand because the model doesn't fit Cake's association model
* clouserw: pulled out T2, committed initial search
* shaver: wrote some search tests, working on results output based on RC mockup
** first, doing schedule/plan work with morgamic so that I don't get kicked off the island
* morgamic: finished update tests, needs to add required dataset to remora-test.sql
** need to figure out how to handle update-check for dual services
** pfs and blocklisting straightforward
** pfs should eventually be based on the db
** acl: just for admin/users? fligtar has it working for developer
** working on schedule/plan with shaver
* fligtar: working on getting better!
** going to plan more tests for additem/edititem
* wenzel: welcome!
** new web-apps intern from Germany and OSL, going to be working on Remora with us!


= September 21 meeting =
== June 29, 2011 ==
Present: Cameron, Clouserw, Lars, Morgamic, Sancus. Fligtar was sick :( Shaver notably absent for two weeks in a row... maybe he was actually doing his vacation thing!? Nahhh... couldn't be.
* [https://intranet.mozilla.org/2011Q2Goals#Add-ons Q2 goals]
* [https://intranet.mozilla.org/2011Q3Goals#Add-ons Q3 goals]


==Binary data in database==
== May 18, 2011 ==
Add-on xpi files are not in the database, so we're defining the path to them. It's in [http://svn.mozilla.org/addons/trunk/site/app/config/bootstrap.php app/config/boostrap.php]
* New people!
Should the screenshot data be in the database?
* Goals status
Should it be in a a separate table, or just a column? Thinking column. Need binary info and mimetype.
* Hiring
Going to test performance on this.
* Apps


While we're at it, lets do the same and add columns for icons (logos) to the add-ons, applications and platforms tables.
== February 23, 2011 ==
Post-mortem for Search Engine Installation Failure - Timeline
* Fri 2/4 10:43am - regression occurred
* Thu 2/10 3:00pm - 5.12.9 live (issue in prod)
* Fri 2/11 10:34am - [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=633558 bug reported]
* Tue 2/15 3:11pm - bug fixed ([https://github.com/jbalogh/zamboni/commit/66920051 commit])
* Tue 2/15 4:42pm - request to update to 5.12.9.4 filed ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=634459 bug 634459])
* Tue 2/15 4:55pm - 5.12.9.4 live (issue fixed in prod)
* Thu 2/17 4:00pm - 5.12.10 live (issue in prod)
* Fri 2/18 4:24pm - first report of bug resurfacing
* Fri 2/18 6:09pm - request to update to 5.12.10.1 filed ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=635432 bug 635432])
* Fri 2/18 10:13pm - 5.12.10.1 live (issue fixed in prod)


No need to migrate the icon stuff, we'll create it.
== February 2, 2011 ==
* [https://intranet.mozilla.org/AMO/2011Q1 2011 Q1 goals]


'''Afterthought''': Are we going to need multiple sizes for those icons? (specifically the application icons.) Don't think so, they only appear in the compatibility info.
== January 4, 2011 ==
* [http://moxie.fligtar.com/amo/5.12.6 Dev Tools status]
* [https://intranet.mozilla.org/2011Q1Goals#Add-ons Q1 goals]
* [https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Acwo2Bn17-PrZGZudHRobnJfOTJnem02emRnZg&hl=en&authkey=CNec3q4I 2011 roadmap]
* [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/webdevplan/mockups#AMO_Hi-Fi_Mockups mobile mocks]
* How should preliminarily reviewed install buttons look?
** Not like this: http://grab.by/8dkY
* Fun fact
* Listening party with Kumar


==Application versions==
== December 1, 2010 ==
Not going to migrate public app version stuff, delete it from the sql. It's useless.
* Fun fact
* What have potch and jbalogh been up to?!
* Work week meetings
** Instant bug fixes
** Lightning talks
** Bug triage
** Marketplace storyboarding
* Other stuff
* Questions


Had a bit of discussion about which application versions can't be used as maxversions and which can't be used as minversions (eg. 2.0.0.* is a stupid minversion. 2.0 is a silly maxversion (leads to bad user experience when people get 2.0.0.1 and the developer hasn't updated the add-on. That's the reason the * stuff was invented. It's in "their rules" somewhere that they're not supposed to release stuff with that format of version string if it breaks a current public api (extension, etc.))
== November 10, 2010  ==


appversion canbeusedasmin canbeusedasmax ?
*Q4 Goals Review
**Marketplace and Developer Tools
***Add-on Performance indicators
***Add-on Developer Tools and sandbox process
***Marketplace Alpha with end to end test of add-on purchase
**Support Fx 4 Beta and Release
***Aim for 65% compatibility with Fx4 in RC timeframe with goal of 90% by release
***Plan an add-on development competition for after release.
**Update home page with light restyle including header and footer to match Mozilla.com refresh.
**Launch FlightDeck on AMO subdomain as builder.addons.mozilla.org
***Add "No restart" badges to AMO with easy way to identify Jetpack Add-ons
***Drive 4X growth in number of new extension developers on AMO (up from 5/day to 20/day).
**Remove all add-ons from the [https://wiki.mozilla.org/AMO:Editors/Featured_and_Recommended#Instant_Update_Add-ons Trusted] list.
*Other Active Goings-on
**2011 Headcount
**Firefox in 2011
**Contributions Stats
**Marketing Update
**Discovery Pane
**RockMelt
**Add-on-Con
*Other Discussions
**Involving Devs more with the ecosystem


===Existing non-valid application versions===
== October 27, 2010  ==
[[Update:TroublesInAddonMigration]]


What can we do about them? There was a lot of discussion in this, culminating with a decision that we're going to migrate them to what we guess is the correct version. We observed that it's different depending on if the version is being used as maxversion or as a minversion.  
*Welcome Andy and Kumar!
*Nick left
*2009
**All about [http://blog.fligtar.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/addoncon-2009.png features and experience]
*2010
**All about code quality
**What were AMO's accomplishments so far in 2010? What did we fall short on? What letter grade would you give AMO overall for this year?
***Everyone noted improved code quality
***"Fell short: Marketplace, the new add-on review system, Jetpack and Personas have taken the back seat and their future seems doubtful to me."
***grades from feedback: B-, B, A-, B
**Q4 2010
***Update on Marketplace
***Goals on track
***Plus lots of stuff not in AMO goals underway
****Blog redesign
****What are add-ons? page
****Revamp of featured process
****High fidelity mocks of new homepage and details page
****Finishing Discovery Pane
*2011
**Balance between code and experience
**Q1
***Finish Zamboni
***Homepage redesign
***Details page redesign
***Experience improvements (breadcrumbs, browse style)
***Builder integration continues
***Marketplace Support
****GTM plan
****Legal agreements in place
****Designs finalized
**Q2
***Marketplace implementation and launch
**Q3
***Marketplace improvements
***Finish Personas integration
**Q4
***&nbsp;???
*Mobile Update / Discussion


Action: Lars is going to compute a list of the versions which are currently being used for each application. Cameron will then go through and decide what it maps to if it's being used as a minversion, and what it maps to if it's being used as maxversion.
== October 6, 2010  ==


==Navigation==
*Learning what people who didn't send status reports are up to
Need to think about elements that can be called by the layout. Contents in elements folder, logic in a helper.
*Discussing mobile AMO:
**separate site/templates vs. single site/templates
**scope of changes
**Jason's current designs
*Comments on new design


Sancus going to finish off the add-on listing page and then do homepage with links to other sections
== August 11, 2010  ==


==Roundtable==
==== Development  ====
'''Sancus:''' Check the [[Update:Remora_Licensing|dashboard]] for what's he's up to.


'''Cameron:''' licensing stuff done and checked in. When creating new pages or if you have queries, [[Update:Remora_Licensing|there's a wiki page]]. Still a small [[Update:Remora_Licensing#Licensing_Todo.2Ffurther_investigation_list|To-do list]] for that but it's no big deal. This week I'll be doing that appversion mapping and I might create some html for some minor interactions.
*Been making lots of good progress on the site; pages live since we last talked include add-on review pages and the /recommended list.
*I outlined our goals in an email last week. Current status of those goals:  
**Review pages bugs are closed
**Collections pages are underway. The main editing page is (almost done?) being styled and Jeff keeps rocking the other listing pages
**User pages haven't changed, the bugs are still in 5.11.8 but most are still unclaimed
**Stats pages haven't moved, Ian is working on making the stats CSVs faster which is blocking our launch anyway.
*If you have experience with or interest in OAUTH come talk to clouserw
*Along with the front end of the dev tools, we'll be building a RESTful API backend with [http://bitbucket.org/jespern/django-piston/wiki/Home django-piston]  
*5.11.9


'''Clouserw:''' l10n stuff is on the standards page now. Talked with Mark Sullivan and dug around in Vanilla to see about localising that.
==== QA  ====


'''Morgamic:''' stubs for service tests, halfway through update.php, spent time reading through the cake manual to brush up. Going to work on tests/services.
==== Product  ====


'''Fligtar:''' Continued working on additem, hoping will be done soon, even though he's been saying that for a month. Lobbied against the "projects" directory in SVN. Plan on beginning a translation for the "l33t" locale, and should finish additem and the tests. Won't be at next week's meeting either because from Wednesday night - Friday he will be out of town. As a result that out-of-townage, his left elbow will be in a splint, but hopefully he'll still be able to type with both hands.
==== Developer Relations  ====


'''Lars:''' Going to get that table of versions to Cameron, then work on implementing it into the migration script when Cameron gets it back.
*Attended Black Hat and BlogHer, both of which passed rather uneventfully. Met a few people interested in add-on development, specially in the NYC Meetup.
*Latest [http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2010/08/03/add-ons-review-update-14/ Add-ons Review Update] got lots of attention because of the Firefox 4 compat section, and [http://kaply.com/weblog/2010/08/03/wont-someone-think-of-the-add-on-developers/ mkaply's complaint] about excessive breakage.
**I'm following PMO more closely now, to identify possible breaking changes. I already have a few new ones for the next update.
*Catching up with reviews.


= September 14 meeting =  
==== Community  ====
Present: Cameron, Clouserw, Lars, Morgamic, Sancus.
Apologies: Shaver (sleeping), Fligtar (said he was going to be late, but never made it.)


===Licensing===
==== Marketing  ====
All the files we create need to be under the MPL/GPL/LGPL tri-license.
How many files have we already created that aren't licensed? Guess about 50.
clouserw going to talk to shaver about writing a script to do stuff.
Read http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/ for info.


'''As you edit files and think of it, put in the [http://www.mozilla.org/MPL/boilerplate-1.1/mpl-tri-license-html tri-license HTML boilerplate], but don't worry about it and don't let licensing distract you from your righteous quests! "incorrect licensing on source files for server-side app" is one of those things that I would be gleeful to have on our "cut list" as we near the schedule singularity".''' (shaver)
==== Other ====


===Coding Guidelines===
*Tardy: potch
HTML 4.01 strict is the way to go. It's in the mozilla.org coding guidelines, transitional is sloppy and if we use xhtml we'll get into the content-type discussion.
*Tardy: osunick


Also, no javascript errors, (with javascript.options.strict set to true.)
== July 21, 2010  ==


'''Another "fix 'em if you notice 'em" thing, but please don't let the pursuit of strict distract or eat up time with discussions. We can fix that in post, if at all, and if having non-validating HTML is even in my top-ten list of problems at release, I will ascend to heaven on a chorus of angels, so strong will my joy be.''' (shaver)
==== Development ====


===SVN notificatons===
*5.11.5 going out tomorrow, 5.11.6 under way
* RSS, email.. whatever. Something would be good.
*will have collections pages done soon, which will be our first user facing editing pages
* Looking at http://cia.navi.cx/


Going to talk to shaver about getting something happening with IT...
==== QA  ====


===Navigation===
==== Product  ====
Going to have to look at page relationships and how to navigate the site. Radiant core mockups has some stuff, but what other ideas do we have on this? Need to think about it.


== Roundtable ==
*Working on things people need
'''Sancus'''
*Working on 'What are add-ons?' page
* Done MDC stuff, working 100% on Remora now
*Icon makeover contest
* Working on major interactions
*Sunbird retirement
* Where's our mockups from radiant core?
*Add-on Security
** Schedule is suffering
** need mockups asap
*** '''everything we're getting from RC we've already got, in the zip from last week''' (shaver)
** not much room for slipping, Firefox is going to be released October sometime, aiming for concurrent release.
*** Any slip we do have will probably result in less QA/testing and a lower-quality product
*** '''we should prefer to slip number of features rather than quality; it's easier to recover from the former than the latter'''; example: slip localization of dev tools rather than test coverage for dev tools.  We need to discuss specific things here, though, to really be helpful.''' (shaver)


'''clouserw'''
==== Developer Relations ====
* Simple search done
** works, needs improvement
*** '''where is it?''' (shaver)
*** ''' it's still a controller at this point, so /controllers/search_controller.php''' (clouserw)
** currently title, then description
*** Should be title, summary, description as discussed previously
** no tests yet.. need to figure out how to do that, going to wait for it to be further developed before writing more.
*** '''I wish I had my previous test stub :( happy to help sketch out tests, or write them if that's helpful and viable''' (shaver, shaking his fist at the MBP gods)
* working on l10n string stuff
** have some demo code which was discussed in IRC.
*** ugly, but doesn't seem to be another way.
** open to suggestions, but need to get them in quick otherwise this is going to become a coding standard.
*** '''this has been merged into the [[Update:Remora_Standards|coding standards]]''' (clouserw)


*Firefox 4 compatibility post later today.
*[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=382356#c107 Whoops].
*Looking into new list of add-ons with poor performance.
*Catching up with reviews.


'''lars'''
==== Community  ====
* got new database stuff yesterday,
** haven't checked in changes to migration script yet


'''morgamic'''
==== Marketing  ====
* going to work on Remora more from thisarvo
* What's with the double slash?
** Nobody knows, ask fligtar
** '''shouldn't be a problem, likely an artifact of the test goop making sure that you don't blow up if you don't have a trailing/leading slash on one of the components''' (shaver)
* shoot css queries at morgamic or clouserw, they've done plenty before


'''Cameron'''
==== Other  ====
* Got SVN and CVS access - hoorah!
* Learning about command line interfaces.


= September 7 Meeting =
*status emails
'''fligtar's questions'''
*[http://people.mozilla.com/~fligtar/addonsintro/ fun with video]
* additem related
** localized addontypes?
*** ''same addontypes in all locales, human strings in translation table''
** summary maxlength? 200? 500? don't remember what shaver said
*** ''250 chars for now''
** developer terms of use?
*** ''make them agree to terms of use and policies when signing up --- good idea!''
** are we localizing admin stuff?
*** ''later!''
** what HTML tags should be allowed and for what fields? suggested from {{bug|343573}}: <pre><a href="" title=""> <abbr title=""> <acronym title=""> <b> <blockquote cite=""> <code> <em> <i> <strike> <ul> <li> and <strong></pre>
*** ''good set to start with; we'll have to add more later''
* other
** future of the approval queue
*** ''refactoring UI to have a page per add-on with more data''
*** ''collision detection on submit''
*** ''review comments and developer correspondence later''
** separating developer and public methods by more than just ACL? ie, another controller/model?
*** ''separate controllers would be good for developer and admin actions; fligtar to rename existing''
** at what point do we close bugs with "fixed in v3"
*** ''when fixed in remora with a test''
* ID collisions
** ''start at 10,000 for new add-ons, to reserve old AMO ids''
* zip of assets from RC in ~mike on linux8
* need to document localization process for extension data (shaver)
* per-locale preview images?
** no facility right now for different images per locale
** can localize captions now, though
* search!
** Zend search-lucene: doesn't support UTF-8
*** UTF-8 support coming, will require php5
** first pass: LIKE %term% queries on name, summary, description?


'''roundtable status'''
== July 14, 2010 ==
* fligtar
** fighting off v1 issues. additem is 80% done (at least its first revision). currently stuck on HABTM problem which sancus will help on.
** working on test helper so that controller tests will work and then I can actually write the additem tests. going to make second pass through current bugs and make list better.
* morgamic
** been doing some python test stuff for AUS; v1 stuff; working on tests for core services (version check, pfs, blocklist, etc.)
** should be done tests by Monday, then working on auth and session stuff
* clouserw
** working on search now
* sancus
** MDC/nutch stuff turned into hell, done now!
** working on HABTM issues and controller test fixups
* shaver
** policy and Fx2 extension-prep stuff
** getting infrastructure in place for staging/deployment, incl php5
** started on localization document, need to finish up quickly and send to Pascal
** working in background on search-engine view
** anime extensions coming out of T-shirt asses, I think
* cameron
** dashboard still exists!
** 100% pooch-screwing this week
** buying sunscreen
* lars
** so many tests for migration now!


= August 31 Meeting =
==== Development  ====
* SVN is up, shaver importing today with morgamic's adult supervision
* get accounts! get accounts! get accounts!


* fligtar: almost done add-item, worked some v1 issues
*Newly live: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/language-tools
* clouserw: did l10n tests for templates, ready to help out
*working on 5.11.[56]
* lars: database migration scripts still done! working on stats stuff as well, but has some bandwidth to help
* cameron: dashboard template done, ready to help with HTMLizifications
* shaver: working on infrastructure setup for staging/deploy, getting strings to localizers, wrapping up with RC
* sancus: mdc work wrapping up, will work on controller test framework and getting tests grouped
* mark: has been working on vanilla locally and pruning things we don't need; waiting for forum HTML
* morgamic: pfs/v1 work behind him, also AUS work for Fx2b2; migrating services into remora (SVN), some db/schema changes


= August 24 Meeting =
==== QA  ====
*Schema: applications_versions.public should maybe be appversions.public? [[User:Fligtar|Fligtar]] 07:57, 24 August 2006 (PDT)


= August 17 Meeting =
*Since I'm filling in for Krupa, no update! - stephend
* what's in version control?
** Cake?
*** ''Yes''
** translation2?
*** ''No'', install through PEAR
** vanilla?
*** ''Yes''
** what else?
*** ''need to be careful where SimpleTest ends up, vendor vs. system-PEAR''
**** ''symlink from vendors/ to SimpleTest in PEAR install?''


* l10n strategy
==== Product  ====
** ''gettext for static content, explicit in templates''
** ''translation2 for database content selection''
*** ''probably not for the flat strings''
*** ''morgamic and wil to mail lorenzo with their questions''
**** ''can we point to arbitrary foreign keys? addition of primary key column''
**** ''performance differences between gettext-direct and gettext-via-translation2''
**** ''a mystery third question!''


* outstanding schema issues
==== Developer Relations  ====
** ''just audit and locale-limited flags''


* handling of dictionaries
*[[AMO:Editors/MeetingNotes#July_7th.2C_2010|AMO Editor Meeting at the Mozilla Summit]].
** ''add-ons type''
*[http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2010/07/13/add-on-security-announcement/ Security vulnerability announcement].
** ''will probably need specialized category-page for landing''
*Will blog about [http://xulforge.com/blog/2010/07/firefox-4-add-on-compatibility-presentation/ Firefox 4 compatibility] later this week.
*Internet Download Manager add-on [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578443 crashing all over the place].
*Catching up with reviews.


* installation guide
==== Marketing  ====
** ''dependencies''
** ''VCS information''
** ''mod_rewrite rules''
** ''locale packs''


* [[Update:Remora_IT_Requirements|list of IT requirements]]
*Transitioning to Nick
*Will Miss You Guys


* audit trail questions?
==== Other  ====
** ''one table for users, one table for add-ons''


* add-on flags per locale? (for profiling certain extensions in certain locales, f.e., or making sure that Japanese users don't see "Editor's Pick!" for things that are crappy with multi-byte input)
== June 23, 2010  ==
** ''look at using hidden categories for this?''


* search engines
==== Development  ====
** ''add-on type''
** ''custom install operation''
*** ''already have to solve that for themes''
** ''where to host? in database? probably don't need bouncer/releases''


* version control
*5.11.2 went out last night. Smooth like (i can't believe it's not) butter
** ''Need to rejig repository to import Cake cleanly''
*5.11.3 goes out next week. The only URL candidate is /search
** ''SVN should be up v. soon, may just move into there''
*Q3 also starts next week. Stuff to put on a sticky note on your monitor:
**'''#1 goal: Get developer tools onto zamboni''' [https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Acwo2Bn17-PrZGZudHRobnJfNzhmNTh6dGtmeg&hl=en spec] (mockups due "first part of July")
**Bonus goal: [http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Acwo2Bn17-PrZGZudHRobnJfNjVjYnFqMm5kZw&hl=en Electric bandwagon] ([http://people.mozilla.com/~chowse/drop/amo/electric-bandwagon/v1/ mocks])
*New bugs and a schedule will be available soon  
*If you have feedback on the latest release cycles, please get it to clouserw today


* Vanilla discussion
==== QA  ====
** ''already supports split read/write database connections''
** ''can write custom authenticators to get user information from other cookies, etc.''
** ''forums per extension''
** ''localization support''


* Mockup status
*Scope for 5.11.3
** ''browse mockup iterating, first versions on wiki''
**[http://tinyurl.com/2g9oasr search bugs in zamboni]
** ''search results coming to HTML today''
**[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=546826 bug 546826]


* Schedule check
==== Product  ====
** ''controller/model scaffolding done''
** ''l10n on track''


* Migration
*[http://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Acwo2Bn17-PrZGZudHRobnJfODdmanhnM3BncA&hl=en Homepage redesign doc]
** ''scripts ready for test, waiting for Lars to get DB access''


* PFS/VersionCheck
==== Developer Relations  ====
** ''their own appdirs''


* Agenda/status
*[http://blog.mozilla.com/addons/2010/06/22/add-ons-review-update-12/ Add-ons Review Update]. Mentioned add-on performance, notable changes in Firefox 4 and near victory over the queues.
** '''morgamic''': got AUS stuff done, migrating other apps to Cake stuff, then ACLs
*TACO fun. [http://www.theregister.co.uk/2010/06/17/firefox_taco_addon_beefs_up/ 1], [http://news.slashdot.org/story/10/06/18/2059222/TACO-Extension-for-Firefox-Forked-After-Proprietary-Update 2]
** '''fligtar''': working on extension upload capabilities
*Admin reviews.
** '''sancus''': working on MDC stuff for the rest of the week, then back to controllers and testing
** '''clouserw''': l10n work
** '''shaver''': working with Mark on the Vanilla stuff, worrying about infrastructure and localizers
** '''osullivan''': getting Vanilla rolling
** '''lars''': migration stuff, taking dumps of db


* Standards/conventions
==== Community  ====
** naming/layout of files and dirs
** test practices and architecture
** coding styles
** preferred beverages


Action items:
==== Marketing  ====
* db access for Lars
 
* server access for Lars and Mark
*Marketplace messaging + FAQ
* questions to translation2
*London add-ons workshop: final week of prep
*Rock Your Firefox: 3 new posts
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*[[AMO:Meeting Notes/Archive Jan-Jun 2010|January – June 16 2010]]
*[[AMO:Meeting Notes/Archive Oct-Dec 2009|October – December 31 2009]]
*[[AMO:Meeting Notes/Archive Jul-Sep 2009|July – September 2009]]
*[[AMO:Meeting Notes/Archive Apr-Jun 2009|April – June 2009]]
*[[AMO:Meeting Notes/Archive Jan-Mar 2009|January – March 2009]]
*[[AMO:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Dec 2008|October – December 2008]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Jul-Sep 2008|July – September 2008]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Apr 2008-Jun 2008|April – June 2008]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Nov 07-Mar 2008|November 2007 – March 2008]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2007|October – November 2007]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2007|August – September 2007]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Dec-Jul 2007|December 2006 – July 2007]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Oct-Nov 2006|October – November 2006]]
*[[Update:Remora Meeting Notepad/Archive Aug-Sep 2006|August – September 2006]]
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AMO Project Meeting Details

  • Mondays, 10:30am Pacific
  • Vidyo: All Your Base
  • Dial-in: Audio-only conference# 95316
    • People with Mozilla phones or softphones please dial x4000 Conf# 95316
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    • Gmail Chat (requires Flash and the Google Talk plugin): paste +1 650 903 0800 into the Gmail Chat box that doesn't look like it accepts phone numbers
    • SkypeOut is free if you use the 800 number

August 20, 2012

Justin's out! Will make do with Caitlin and Wil :-)

Weekly updates

  • Rick's payments update (Caitlin)
  • changes in the Marketplace weekly meeting (Caitlin)

August 13, 2012

Weekly updates

Discussion items

  • Payments

August 6, 2012

Weekly updates

Discussion Items

  • August 28

July 23, 2012

(clouserw running)

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

July 16, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

  • Introductions
  • (clouserw) HA Availability questions?
  • (clouserw) certified vs trusted vs web installed. what?

July 9, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

  • Aug 28 public alpha for desktop/android, betas every couple of months after that
  • Trying to nail down identity and payments plan

Jul 2, 2012

  • (clouserw) UX Update
  • (clouserw) july 5th demo
  • (clouserw) Mon/Wed is a holiday

Jun 25, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

  • basta in the house
  • interns are doing an "apps hack day" on Saturday, July 7th if you want to hang out
  • need to determine how the goals in our release milestones match up with basecamp

Jun 18, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

  • Introductions
  • Payments update

Jun 11, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

Jun 04, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

May 21, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items


May 14, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
    • Bug fixes 2012-05-10
    • Compatibility reports for Add-ons via Dev Hub
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

  • Discuss Basecamp and upcoming releases
  • personas going onto the Marketplace directly
  • Turned off the sphinx!
  • personas bugs?

May 7, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week

Discussion Items

Goals for this week's Show and Tell

April 23, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week
    • MP Consumer pages

April 26 Beta Status

  • Product/Marketing/Misc. updates

Goals for this week's Show and Tell

  • The whole thing with roadblock

Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy?

  • Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style - works
  • Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place - 90% works
  • Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) - works
  • Video support - works
  • Account History page - works
  • In-app purchases consumer UI and flow - ke$ha; sexy but a little busted
  • Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop - sucks; needs UX guidance
  • Developer Hub landing pages - missing
  • App review tools - works
  • Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) - missing-ish

Discussion/Action Items

  • (clouserw) If you're interested in giving a presentation at hacker school in NY (www.hackerschool.com) and then doing some recruiting let Laura know. It's on July 9.
  • (clouserw) anyone object to me flipping landfill.amo over to marketplace instead of AMO? I think it would be more accessible for new folks
  • (clouserw) How does everyone feel about sentry?

April 16, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week
    • Video (If Davor fixes the frontend)
    • D2C changes

April 26 Beta Status

  • Features being worked on (See dev priorities for more details)
    • Currencies + purchase flow (cvan)
    • Pre-auth + purchase flow (davor)
    • in-app payment backend - postbacks, security, etc (kumar)
    • Homepage (potch)
    • In-app frontend (potch)
  • Product/Marketing/Misc. updates

Goals for this week's Show and Tell

  • Receipts (Installing and Signing)
  • Category browse pages
  • Apps Stats page
  • Reviewer tools
  • Payment UI (One-click and in-app)

Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy?

  • Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style -
  • Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place -
  • Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) -
  • Video support -
  • Account History page -
  • In-app purchases consumer UI and flow -
  • Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop -
  • Developer Hub landing pages -
  • App review tools -
  • Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) -

Discussion/Action Items

Action Items from last week

  • Get rid of authentication for consumer pages - done
  • Bill is working on getting Hardware keys for issuing and reissuing receipts -done
  • Bill needs to talk about Apps in the Cloud. - done

April 9, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
  • What we plan to push this week
    • D2C changes (Better text notes around buttons about app support, possibly buttons.js changes)
    • AMO 6.5.0

April 26 Beta Status

  • Features being worked on
    • Video Support (Andy)
    • Apps Stats frontend (Davor)
    • Apps Stats backend (cvan)
    • Editor Tools (cvan)
    • Currencies + purchase flow (cvan)
    • Pre-auth + purchase flow (cvan)
    • in-app payment backend (kumar)
    • Homepage (potch)
    • In-app frontend (potch/ davor)
  • Product/Marketing/Misc. updates

Goals for this week's Show and Tell

  • Purchase flow (in-app and otherwise)

Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy?

  • Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style - sucks
  • Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place - kinda works
  • Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) - works
  • Video support - works
  • Account History page - sexy
  • In-app purchases consumer UI and flow - kinda works
  • Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop - works
  • Developer Hub landing pages - ??
  • App review tools - works
  • Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) - missing

Discussion/Action Items

  • Get rid of authentication for consumer pages
  • Bill is working on getting Hardware keys for issuing and reissuing receipts
  • Bill needs to talk about Apps in the Cloud.

April 2, 2012

Weekly updates

  • What went live last week
    • Bug fixes (6.4.8)
    • We did a 6.4.8.1 push for Bug 740735
  • What we plan to push this week
    • Move off of PHP (Includes: Global stats, Collection stats, Login, install.php etc)
    • D2C changes (Better text notes around buttons about app support, possibly buttons.js changes)
    • 6.4.9 [1]

April 26 Beta Status

  • Features being worked on
    • Video Support (Andy)
    • Apps Stats frontend (Davor)
    • Apps Stats backend (cvan)
    • Editor Tools (cvan)
    • Currencies + purchase flow (cvan)
    • Pre-auth + purchase flow (cvan)
    • in-app payment backend (kumar)
    • Homepage (potch)
    • In-app frontend (potch/ davor)
  • Product/Marketing/Misc. updates

Goals for this week's Show and Tell

  • Marketplace Editor Tools
  • App stats
  • Hot new purchase flow
  • Videos
  • Currencies

Marketplace Scorecard - Missing, Sucks, Works, or Sexy?

  • Core pages implemented with responsive design and new style - works
  • Purchasing apps with and without PayPal billing agreement in place - sucks
  • Refund flow (consumer request & developer approval) - missing/sucks, supposedly works as of 15 minutes ago. :)
  • Video support - missing, andym landing something, hopefully to demo on friday
  • Account History page - works
  • In-app purchases consumer UI and flow - sucks
  • Cross-browser support for mobile, tablets, and desktop - works
  • Developer Hub landing pages - missing, eta for something is 4/6
  • App review tools - sucks/works, landing final pieces
  • Statistics & reports (downloads and financial) - sucks

Discussion Items

March 26, 2012

  • Weekly updates
  • April 26 Beta Status
    • Visual design target Wednesday
  • Goals for this week's Show and Tell
    • Support flow
    • Sexier payment
    • Video uploading and display
  • Q1 goals review

March 19, 2012

  • Weekly updates
  • April 26 Beta Status [2]
    • Visual design plan: send links to Martell
    • Release plan
    • Carrier billing
  • Goals for this week's Show and Tell
    • Payments added to details page
    • Search and browse results (bonus points: search suggestions)

March 12, 2012

March 5, 2012

  • MWC report
  • Plan going forward
  • Meeting format changes
  • Community update
  • Goals for this week's show and tell
    • fligtar: price tiers, roadmap, new timelines
  • Deleting reviews

February 27, 2012

  • No Meeting

February 13, 2012

  • Weekly Releases
  • Developer Registration Update
  • UX update
  • [clouserw+jorgev] talk about new reviewer tools plan. Tracker is bug 725830
  • Week goals
    • fligtar - roadmap and price tiers
    • cvan - submission flow at dev hub
    • potch - modal component of details page in responsive flow
    • refund management page done
    • andy - uploading videos

February 6, 2012

  • Weekly Releases
  • Scaling the marketplace
  • this happened
  • Roadmap
  • Developer Beta Update
  • UX update
  • Payments
  • Feedback on Friday show and tell

January 30, 2012

  • Weekly Releases
  • Personas renaming
  • Roadmap
  • Developer Beta Update
  • UX update
  • Payments

January 23, 2012

  • Q1 Goals
  • Developer Beta Update
  • Weekly Releases
    • What's in the next milestone?
  • UX update

December 19, 2011

December 12, 2011

  • Going out this week
  • 6.3.4 still has some open bugs. Talk to Wil about where you're at.
  • Apps release dry-run today, real thing is tomorrow.
  • New jetpack SDK is going out today on builder.amo
  • No email makes clouserw and probably others sad pandas. Behind on pretty much all of that. :(


December 5, 2011

November 21, 2011

November 14, 2011

  • 6.3.2 push notes, open bugs, fixed bugs
  • This is our last week to work on our app-preview launch. Stuff related to that is highest priority. Please look through your bugs today (during the meeting, even!).
    • If you have too many P1/2s: Say something in IRC and we'll spread them out
    • If you want some P1/2s: Say something in IRC :)


October 31, 2011

October 24, 2011

October 17, 2011

October 10, 2011

October 3, 2011

  • Went out last week
  • Going out this week
  • Going out next week
  • Firefox 9 compatibility
    • 7.* -> 8.* bump was put on hold due to bug 690975. Need the fix in prod ASAP top run this bump on Tuesday or Wednesday.
    • Jorge looking for breaking changes in 9. About 40% done, should finish in a day or two. Will begin filing compatibility bugs today.
    • fligtar: the compatibility dashboard should point to 8 now.
  • Marketplace status
  • Apps status
  • Q4 goals

September 26, 2011

  • Going out this week
    • 6.2.5 push notes, open bugs, fixed bugs
    • Last week in the quarter! Lots going out (see push notes). Let's close QA bugs asap so we can verify features.
    • (new page candidates and notable bug fixes go here)
  • Going out next week
  • Compatibility status
  • Marketplace status
    • Contract
    • BD
    • Designs/specs
  • Apps status
    • Apps/Add-ons combo
  • Compressing Assets on AMO
    • Already emailed about it, but I figure I'll tell people how to upgrade in case they ignored it.
  • Discussion of next month's event
  • tracking bug pool is growing

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