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** Hoping to hit this within the next week or so | ** Hoping to hit this within the next week or so | ||
** Following this, I'm going to lay out a roadmap and specs for community involvement. | ** Following this, I'm going to lay out a roadmap and specs for community involvement. | ||
* Reached a milestone of saving a contact in the database today! | |||
==== Google Summer of Code Projects ==== | ==== Google Summer of Code Projects ==== | ||
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* '''Next merge date: ''' 08 10 | * '''Next merge date: ''' 08 10 | ||
* For information about channels, point people here - http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/ | * For information about channels, point people here - http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/ | ||
* We're investigating a new top crasher on Mac. 15.0 We have no idea why this occurs. Could be a build issue. Mark will talk to releng. | |||
** Relevant bugs are: | |||
*** https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790229 | |||
*** https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790229 | |||
*** https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=790234 | |||
===== Beta Version ===== | ===== Beta Version ===== | ||
Beta 16 that will have background update enabled. | |||
===== ESR ===== | ===== ESR ===== | ||
=== Extension of the week === | === Extension of the week === | ||
* Another FileLink Provider , [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/fileswapcom-filelink/ Fileswap]. Limited to 500mb without an account and 250 GB with an account. | * Another FileLink Provider by the provider itself this time , [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/thunderbird/addon/fileswapcom-filelink/ Fileswap]. Limited to 500mb without an account and 250 GB with an account. | ||
=== [[Thunderbird:Testing|QA]] Updates === | === [[Thunderbird:Testing|QA]] Updates === | ||
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** [https://litmus.mozilla.org/test_run_report.cgi?test_run_id=485 50% Coverage of our test suite] achieved in 24 hours. | ** [https://litmus.mozilla.org/test_run_report.cgi?test_run_id=485 50% Coverage of our test suite] achieved in 24 hours. | ||
** Sending updates on the mailing lists , or [https://twitter.com/lhirlimann twitting] them | ** Sending updates on the mailing lists , or [https://twitter.com/lhirlimann twitting] them | ||
** Need to look at crash stats | ** Need to look at crash stats. Will do that at the end of the week. | ||
** List of [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=789883 bugs found so far] | ** List of [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/showdependencytree.cgi?id=789883 bugs found so far] | ||
* Summary of Thunderbird summit as been posted to [https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2012-September/002134.html Tb-planning] | * Summary of Thunderbird summit as been posted to [https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/tb-planning/2012-September/002134.html Tb-planning] | ||
* Been actively encouraging people to get on board with QA and asking for help. | |||
** Largely depends on what the subject of the testing is. | |||
=== Marketing Updates === | === Marketing Updates === | ||
nothing to report | |||
=== Build / Release Update === | === Build / Release Update === | ||
Mark says the tryserver e-mails are now sending out the correct links | |||
=== Web Update === | === Web Update === | ||
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* Spent a bit of time on non-TB stuff(Mozillians) | * Spent a bit of time on non-TB stuff(Mozillians) | ||
* Working on bedrock migration stuff. | * Working on bedrock migration stuff. | ||
* https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock | |||
* https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampEU2012/Contributing_to_Mozilla_Websites | |||
=== Documentation === | === Documentation === | ||
nothing to report | |||
=== [[Thunderbird/Support|Support]] === | === [[Thunderbird/Support|Support]] === | ||
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# Please add any issues to the Thunderbird 15.0 Support issues page using the tagging convention from the [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-support-day-2012-08-29 TB15 Support Day Etherpad]. Use the following tags and any other relevant Get Satisfaction tags as appropriate: [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15 tb15], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15upgrade tb15upgrade], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15ubuntuone tb15ubuntuone], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15im tb15im],[https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15twitter tb15twitter], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15irc tb15irc], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15gtalk tb15gtalk], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15xmpp tb15xmpp], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15compactloss tb15compactloss] | # Please add any issues to the Thunderbird 15.0 Support issues page using the tagging convention from the [https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-support-day-2012-08-29 TB15 Support Day Etherpad]. Use the following tags and any other relevant Get Satisfaction tags as appropriate: [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15 tb15], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15upgrade tb15upgrade], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15ubuntuone tb15ubuntuone], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15im tb15im],[https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15twitter tb15twitter], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15irc tb15irc], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15gtalk tb15gtalk], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15xmpp tb15xmpp], [https://getsatisfaction.com/mozilla_messaging/tags/tb15compactloss tb15compactloss] | ||
# 1382 new support topics (1120 three weeks ago ) - [[Media:10-16September2012-TB-GS-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]] | # 1382 new support topics (1120 three weeks ago ) - [[Media:10-16September2012-TB-GS-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png]] | ||
# See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-09-18/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details | # Big thank-you and welcome to new contributors '''dale_edsen aka airmail 793 AND richard_helliwell'''!See [[Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2012-09-18/SupportAppendix|this week's Support Appendix]] for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details | ||
=== Lightning Updates === | === Lightning Updates === | ||
nothing to report | |||
=== Status Updates === | === Status Updates === | ||
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=== Roundtable Highlights === | === Roundtable Highlights === | ||
There is plenty on discussion happening on tb-planning, https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-planning | |||
Every time there is a relevant support discussion, that should be cross-posted on tb-planning. Same for QA and testing. | |||
* How do we make the discussions on tb-planning into concrete actions and documentation on consensus? | |||
* If we need a mechanism, we can put that in place, but it's good if we don't have to do that. | |||
* If we are not able to get some consensus decisions, tb-staff can step up, but hopefully hopefully the community will be able to do that. | |||
* Rkent is concerned about the governance model | |||
* JB is open to suggestions on other models. | |||
* Rkent suggests a council similar to the Seamonkey council. | |||
* Ludo suggests rkent as a benevilant dictator | |||
* Rkent is concerned about monetisation of Thunderbird in the long run in order to allow people to make a living out of it. | |||
* JB is not convinced that we need a board/council for Thunderbird. At least for the first releases he thinks the current model will work. | |||
* Mozilla will not allow selling the product, but are happy to see people making money about addons and similar initiatives. Anne-marie is looking into monitisation opportunities that work together with the governance model and Mozilla's goals. | |||
* Rkent asks how can we maintain the backend in case people are mainly working on addons? * The product needs the maintainership and development. | |||
* Conclusion is that we need to wait and see how the current model will work for at least a release or two. | |||
=== Attendees === | === Attendees === | ||
standard8, sancus, florian, roland, anne-marie, rkent, bwinton, mconley, rkent, irving, andreasn, jb | |||
__NOTOC__ | __NOTOC__ | ||
Latest revision as of 17:23, 18 September 2012
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Thunderbird Meeting Details :
- Tuesday, September 18, 2012 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
- How to dial-in
Remember to use headphones and mute yourself when not talking
Feel free to ask questions in the meeting either by speaking up or by asking them in #maildev on IRC.
Other ways to get in touch with us can be found on our communications page
Agenda
- Who's taking minutes? --> andreasn
- Minute taking Schedule. Talk to Standard8 for schedule changes/additions.
- Note: this meeting is for interactive discussion. Feel free to ask questions!
Action Items
Friends of the Tree
Thanks to our Friend of the Tree. When adding someone to this section, please get their T-Shirt size, phone number (needed for shipping!) and send it to abourcier@mozilla.com that she can send them a shirt!
Thunderbird Development
Feature Work
Instant Messaging
- A patch has landed that aggregates logs in the log viewer into days as opposed to individual chat sessions. Should land for TB 17 soon.
- We will have better error messages for XMPP and IRC connections failing because of an invalid (eg. self-signed) SSL certificate. This was causing lots of support requests.
Modern Address Book
- Mike is working full-tilt on this add-on now.
- Contacts can now be saved to the database.
- Working on displaying contacts next, followed by searching.
- Reminder: Milestone 1 is to import 500 fake contacts from the old TB address book into the new address book, and display them.
- Hoping to hit this within the next week or so
- Following this, I'm going to lay out a roadmap and specs for community involvement.
- Reached a milestone of saving a contact in the database today!
Google Summer of Code Projects
App Tabs for Thunderbird
Improving GMail Integration
Get ISPDB into Production
'No reply' reminder for Thunderbird
Schedule and Progress
- Next merge date: 08 10
- For information about channels, point people here - http://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/channel/
- We're investigating a new top crasher on Mac. 15.0 We have no idea why this occurs. Could be a build issue. Mark will talk to releng.
Beta Version
Beta 16 that will have background update enabled.
ESR
Extension of the week
- Another FileLink Provider by the provider itself this time , Fileswap. Limited to 500mb without an account and 250 GB with an account.
QA Updates
- Currently running a test week :
- 50% Coverage of our test suite achieved in 24 hours.
- Sending updates on the mailing lists , or twitting them
- Need to look at crash stats. Will do that at the end of the week.
- List of bugs found so far
- Summary of Thunderbird summit as been posted to Tb-planning
- Been actively encouraging people to get on board with QA and asking for help.
- Largely depends on what the subject of the testing is.
Marketing Updates
nothing to report
Build / Release Update
Mark says the tryserver e-mails are now sending out the correct links
Web Update
- Spent a bit of time on non-TB stuff(Mozillians)
- Working on bedrock migration stuff.
- https://github.com/mozilla/bedrock
- https://wiki.mozilla.org/MozCampEU2012/Contributing_to_Mozilla_Websites
Documentation
nothing to report
Support
- Mozcamp EU 2012 Warsaw meeting notes about Thunderbird Support post TB17 - https://etherpad.mozilla.org/tb-support scroll down to: "MozCamp Europe 2012 in Warsaw - Support track notes"
- TB 15.0.1 support report - looked at all the topics on September 11th and 1/3 of the topics on Saturday and Sunday - no new major problems discovered other than:
- Exchange 2007/2010 Calendar and Tasks Provider not working with Thunderbird 15 [GS], [bug report 132 - experimental version available in bug 132 - WORKAROUND - get it from github: "In branch e4xReplacement in the github repository (https://github.com/1stsetup/exchangecalendar) you can follow the progress."
- Please add any issues to the Thunderbird 15.0 Support issues page using the tagging convention from the TB15 Support Day Etherpad. Use the following tags and any other relevant Get Satisfaction tags as appropriate: tb15, tb15upgrade, tb15ubuntuone, tb15im,tb15twitter, tb15irc, tb15gtalk, tb15xmpp, tb15compactloss
- 1382 new support topics (1120 three weeks ago ) - Media:10-16September2012-TB-GS-Community_stats_for_Mozilla_Messaging.png
- Big thank-you and welcome to new contributors dale_edsen aka airmail 793 AND richard_helliwell!See this week's Support Appendix for full Get Satisfaction metrics and other support details
Lightning Updates
nothing to report
Status Updates
See the Mozilla Status Board for status updates specific to developers.
Roundtable Highlights
There is plenty on discussion happening on tb-planning, https://mail.mozilla.org/listinfo/tb-planning Every time there is a relevant support discussion, that should be cross-posted on tb-planning. Same for QA and testing.
- How do we make the discussions on tb-planning into concrete actions and documentation on consensus?
- If we need a mechanism, we can put that in place, but it's good if we don't have to do that.
- If we are not able to get some consensus decisions, tb-staff can step up, but hopefully hopefully the community will be able to do that.
- Rkent is concerned about the governance model
- JB is open to suggestions on other models.
- Rkent suggests a council similar to the Seamonkey council.
- Ludo suggests rkent as a benevilant dictator
- Rkent is concerned about monetisation of Thunderbird in the long run in order to allow people to make a living out of it.
- JB is not convinced that we need a board/council for Thunderbird. At least for the first releases he thinks the current model will work.
- Mozilla will not allow selling the product, but are happy to see people making money about addons and similar initiatives. Anne-marie is looking into monitisation opportunities that work together with the governance model and Mozilla's goals.
- Rkent asks how can we maintain the backend in case people are mainly working on addons? * The product needs the maintainership and development.
- Conclusion is that we need to wait and see how the current model will work for at least a release or two.
Attendees
standard8, sancus, florian, roland, anne-marie, rkent, bwinton, mconley, rkent, irving, andreasn, jb