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* QAE [https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q22008_QAEgoals Q208 Goals] draft 1 (everyone)
* QAE [https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q22008_QAEgoals Q208 Goals] draft 2 (everyone)
** Finalize this draft, and hand to tim


* QA [http://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community/Dev_Day Dev Day update] (marcia)
* QA [http://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/Community/Dev_Day Dev Day update] (marcia)
**4-3 update: We are on track for a BOF session at OSCON. As soon as we can sign up online, I will sign us up. In the meantime, we will wait and see if Mary's mini testing session materials. We should be thinking about what kind of session we want to have at OSCON.
** Memory Leak session during BOF  (tomcat)
**European Developer Day in June is listed as TBD on the current event calendar. This makes it difficult for us to plan anything for that event.
*** How to use Leak Gauge/How to file Memory Leak Bugs/Test Firefox with your Favorite Extension for Memory Leaks
**Any other upcoming conferences we should target?
** Other OSCON topics? 
*** '''Discussion''' - no other update on having a testday event there
** Presenters?  Attendees?
*** '''Discussion''' - step back, lets scope out the demographics of where can we budget a strategic location for a test event.
*** QA summit this year?  moFo would be willing to fund this, but need a proposal.
*** have a future idea on this. 


* Security testing update (marcia)
* Regression, Regression, Regression! (tchung)
** Next session plans with bob Lord?
** Ways we can cut down on finding late regressions
*** Talk to redhat QA person for test suggestions '''(marcia)'''
** How can we encourage devs on more careful checkins?
*** go over security document sent to bc
*** '''Discussion''' - more tryserver builds, point the developers to these builds, and have them run their patch.  How is the communication between devs and qa are checkins? Have a weekly regression report.  (eg. breaking spell checker)
*** creating a brown bag event out of it for more mozilla team, open discussion '''(marcia, window)''' to plan
*** General rule: developers check in unit tests, test their patch before they check in.   This is not a policy currently, but we should say something.  
** Setting up EV certs on test servers? '''(marcia)''' to discuss plan
***4/3 Update - marcia talked to robcee, he doesn't have time to help with setting up the cert system detailed here: -> http://boblord.livejournal.com/19010.html. He suggested either filing an IT bug or contacting bob lord for help.


* Large bookmarks testing (tracy)
** Email flame sparked a urgency to revisit our large profile testing methods
** How can we automate this better?  (see dietrich's thoughts)
*** '''Discussion''' - use our profiles marcia created, start building the profile and history on it.  Places team has been testing on 10k bookmark files,  BC creating a spidertest with 5k bookmarks.  But if community member has a broken profile, he should hand it over. 
*** In summary, there hasnt been much complaints and new issues with larger profiles. 
* Discuss nominees for QA community folks to attend summit (suggested by marcia)
** '''Discussion''' - who are top candidates?
*** NSS security guys
*** whimboo
*** ria
*** stevee
*** kurt supernova
*** matti
*** Aleksej
*** smokey artisson
*** Alexander surkov (marco to vouch)
*** Phil ringwalda
*** Coce
*** emily chen
*** vicky


= Project Updates =
= Project Updates =
* Firefox 3 beta 5 update (tchung)
* Firefox 3 (tchung)
** RC1 Code freeze 4/8
** Verify bugs!
** Need all hands on deck for testing rc1
*** [http://tinyurl.com/3bfgoa 215 Firefox bugs] ''(+13 from last week)'' 
*** [http://tinyurl.com/354n48 228 Platform bugs] ''(+39 from last week)''
** [https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q22008_QAEgoals#Q1_Goals_for_QA_Execution AMO top Addons] list
** Testplan coming soon, calling for signups area now.


* Fx 2.0.0.14 update (al)
* Fx 2.0.0.14 update (al)
** ETA builds tomorrow, try to ship week of apr 11th


* Leak testing update (tomcat)
* Leak testing update (tomcat)
** 6 bugs blocking final
** 165 Leak Bugs open
** 150 bugs filed
** 226 Leak Bugs filed overall
**  55 Assertion Bugs
** 3 Leak Bugs left as Blocker for the Final Firefox 3 Release


* Webdev update (stephend)
* Webdev update (stephend)
** '''Shipped Remora v3.2 on March 27'''
** Should be shipping AMO 3.21 4/15/2008
** Working on a 3.21, which ships Wednesday, April 9th
** Mozilla.com redesign is going well (finishing touches/polish/content)
** Working on mozilla.com


* Community update (jay)
* Community update (jay)
** Posting "Getting to know the QA Community, Part 3" today, which will have a good big of feedback from volunteers that we all should read and consider as we improve our processes and work with them.
** Community Survey Results:
** Completing QMO Drupal Dev RFP and sending out to a few firms so we can start bidding process on Phase 2 of the redesign project.
*** Any feedback on blog posts? 
** Should have final deliverable from Airbag this week (all HTML/CSS files for visual design), will blog about redesign on Friday if I have the final files hosted somewhere for viewing.
*** Anyone want to do anything else with the data? 
*** Volunteers for contributor outreach?
** QMO project
*** Design files *should* be delivered this Friday (meeting with Airbag today for an update)
*** Drupal Development RFP to be completed by tomorrow and will be sending to Raincity Studios for bid (along with a couple of other firms)
** Team T-shirts and Bags


* Testday this week on password manager '''(Juanb)''' are the topic moderators this week.  
* Testday this week on feedback and bugs '''(tchung)''' are the topic moderators this week.  
** [http://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TestDay/Schedule#Testday_moderator_Rotation Moderator rotation list]
** [http://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TestDay/Schedule#Testday_moderator_Rotation Moderator rotation list]
*** 7am-11am '''(coop/tracy)'''  
*** 7am-11am '''(tomcat/Martijn)'''  
*** 11am-1pm (overlapping testers)   
*** 11am-1pm (overlapping testers)   
*** 1pm-5pm '''(abillings/ctalbert)'''
*** 1pm-5pm '''(tchung/marcia)'''


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Other topics?
Other topics?
* Sight-city.de - german conference 5/7-5/9 (marcoz)
** mozilla will have a booth there

Latest revision as of 01:42, 13 April 2008

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Discussion Items

  • QAE Q208 Goals draft 2 (everyone)
    • Finalize this draft, and hand to tim
  • QA Dev Day update (marcia)
    • Memory Leak session during BOF (tomcat)
      • How to use Leak Gauge/How to file Memory Leak Bugs/Test Firefox with your Favorite Extension for Memory Leaks
    • Other OSCON topics?
      • Discussion - no other update on having a testday event there
    • Presenters? Attendees?
      • Discussion - step back, lets scope out the demographics of where can we budget a strategic location for a test event.
      • QA summit this year? moFo would be willing to fund this, but need a proposal.
      • have a future idea on this.
  • Regression, Regression, Regression! (tchung)
    • Ways we can cut down on finding late regressions
    • How can we encourage devs on more careful checkins?
      • Discussion - more tryserver builds, point the developers to these builds, and have them run their patch. How is the communication between devs and qa are checkins? Have a weekly regression report. (eg. breaking spell checker)
      • General rule: developers check in unit tests, test their patch before they check in. This is not a policy currently, but we should say something.
  • Large bookmarks testing (tracy)
    • Email flame sparked a urgency to revisit our large profile testing methods
    • How can we automate this better? (see dietrich's thoughts)
      • Discussion - use our profiles marcia created, start building the profile and history on it. Places team has been testing on 10k bookmark files, BC creating a spidertest with 5k bookmarks. But if community member has a broken profile, he should hand it over.
      • In summary, there hasnt been much complaints and new issues with larger profiles.
  • Discuss nominees for QA community folks to attend summit (suggested by marcia)
    • Discussion - who are top candidates?
      • NSS security guys
      • whimboo
      • ria
      • stevee
      • kurt supernova
      • matti
      • Aleksej
      • smokey artisson
      • Alexander surkov (marco to vouch)
      • Phil ringwalda
      • Coce
      • emily chen
      • vicky

Project Updates

  • Fx 2.0.0.14 update (al)
  • Leak testing update (tomcat)
    • 165 Leak Bugs open
    • 226 Leak Bugs filed overall
    • 55 Assertion Bugs
    • 3 Leak Bugs left as Blocker for the Final Firefox 3 Release
  • Webdev update (stephend)
    • Should be shipping AMO 3.21 4/15/2008
    • Mozilla.com redesign is going well (finishing touches/polish/content)
  • Community update (jay)
    • Community Survey Results:
      • Any feedback on blog posts?
      • Anyone want to do anything else with the data?
      • Volunteers for contributor outreach?
    • QMO project
      • Design files *should* be delivered this Friday (meeting with Airbag today for an update)
      • Drupal Development RFP to be completed by tomorrow and will be sending to Raincity Studios for bid (along with a couple of other firms)
    • Team T-shirts and Bags
  • Testday this week on feedback and bugs (tchung) are the topic moderators this week.

Other topics?

  • Sight-city.de - german conference 5/7-5/9 (marcoz)
    • mozilla will have a booth there
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