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 == Agenda ==
-* Who's taking minutes?
+* Who's taking minutes? dmose
 === Action Items ===
 ==== Open ====
-* sipaq: file a bug on getting a thunderbird aggregator going on
+* davida: file a bug on getting an announcements feed going on
-** Not on call
+* davida: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com
-* unknown: file a bug on getting a planet.mozillamessaging.com
+* everyone: look for delight bugs for the next release, put [delight] in status whiteboard
-** gozer: we have DNS and servers, need someone to make planet look nice
+* dmose: will send out email scheduling drivers meeting for 9:30 Thursday
-* everyone: nominate important bugs for blocking? and wanted?
-* drivers: spend some time triaging nominations
-* everyone: look for delight bugs for the next release
-* everyone: If you want things make Beta 1, let the drivers know.
 ==== Closed ====
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 * Post Mortem needs scheduling
 ** who needs to be there?  davida, wswmk, nthomas, gozer, standard8, emre, dmose, ____?
-** when: ___?
+** nthomas unavailability unknown
+** davida to send out email, hopefully this week
-=== Thunderbird 3 ===
+=== Thunderbird 3 ==
+* lots of triage has happened; not yet completed
+* some question about use of Target-Milestone field
+* action item(dmose): email drivers to schedule meeting this week
 === [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird 3.0b1]] ===
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 == Main Issues ==
+* davida pointed out that pace seems slow
+** what happens if we don't get enough wanted bugs?
+*** go forward as planned
+*** insert milestone (and rename?)
+*** bug owners requested to
+**** update status whiteboard of blocking & wanted bugs
+**** focus on bugs with string changes
+*** drivers to discuss further thursday
 * 3 blockers with no owner:
 ** {{Bug|429118}} Thunderbird inline spell check broken
 ** {{Bug|430762}} Start page for Alpha/Beta builds - is this a dup?
+*** davida & Standard8 to discuss post meeting
 ** {{Bug|451257}} Using "Edit as new" for random messages sometimes crashes Thunderbird [@ pixman_malloc_abc]
+*** hopefully crash-stats return in the next week or two will give us insight here
 * L10N builds at risk:
 ** mozilla-central currently has no automated L10N builds
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 ** No instructions for L10N builds from comm-central
 ** no L10N dashboard (i.e. compare locales)
+** if the infrastructure doesn't come together, should skip string freeze and possibly l10n builds for this milestone rather than slipping
+** davida/kairo will keep an eye on l10n discussion in Fx product meeting
 * String Freeze - Are we on course to get string changes in for next week?
 ** Account Configuration {{bug|422814}}
+*** At the very least, cert-auth is at risk
 ** Password Manager {{bug|239131}}
 *** May not make it, although FF password manager should already be localised for most folks, the preference pane changes are still outstanding.
 ** Gloda {{bug|450494}}
+*** davida: relatively few strings, need to be concerned about UI for upgrading
 ** Inline card dialog {{bug|450724}}
+*** Standard8: on track
 ** Improved Message Reader View {{bug|449691}}
+*** dmose: mostly on track, some risk, looks to be easy to split and land partially
 === QA Updates ===
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 * Offline/online bug triage net results - two weeks ago started with 39 bugs with  no comment since 2007-08-01, now down to 17 bugs. (in fact only 17 have no comments before 2008-05-30) So, a qualified success - but would be great if more people were comfortable working on them :)
 * this week's bugday focus will be, at least in part, bugs with patches that need love
+** discussion about gerv's ongoing work here and how we should try and win (even in the short term in
 === Gmail Configuration: POP and IMAP ===
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 ''See proposed agenda items in the [[Talk:Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-08-26| discussion page]].''
+* davida likes the idea of IMAP
+* need to consider UI implications of Googles tag/folder mapping and what deletion means (viz deletion from saved searches?)
+* part of the autoconfig stuff davida is working on
 === Roundtable ===
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 ** what I would like
 *** If the potential reviewers (I am thinking bienvenu and Standard8?) could start to look at [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugmail_asutherland.org/index.cgi/gloda/ the repository], probably starting from [http://hg.mozilla.org/users/bugmail_asutherland.org/index.cgi/gloda/file/d2a13bb0a3d2/modules/gloda.js modules/gloda.js], that would be great.
+**** Standard8 probably won't have time; dmose volunteered
 *** we should probably plan on tele-con walkthroughs after some initial familiarization/review has occurred.  I had done one with dmose and bienvenu back when dmose was up in Vancouver, and that went pretty well.  A lot has happened since then, though, so bienvenu might still want in on such a walkthrough.  We should probably do this after I get at least the first batch of unit tests out.
 * other
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 ** validates that *.live.mozillamessaging.com is the right DNS structure for all things <b>needed</b> by Thunderbird itself
 ** brought up interesting issues of trust and SSL certificates
+*** larger discussion needed; davida will blog about once this is a bit further along
 ** I'd like to get the general feel about including our own CA in Thunderbird's trusted CA list.
 * Decided it's simpler to host the Lightning/gdata buildbots ourselves, instead of trying to reuse the current community boxes
+** Should happen this week
 * Brought our test Zimbra install in sync with what's at MoCo to help Calendar folks with debugging problems {{bug|450534}}
 * <i>Will be somewhat on/off this week for family reasons</i>