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* Location: [irc://chat.freenode.net/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel] on Freenode
* Location: [irc://chat.freenode.net/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel] on Freenode
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Participants (in order of appearance):  
* Participants (in order of appearance): IanN WaltS48 frg WG9s rsx11m njsg


== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''Frank Lion and Peter Madsen for providing complete themes and frg for WG9s patch patching'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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* A new search engine startpage.com is integrated into SeaMonkey.
* A new search engine startpage.com is integrated into SeaMonkey.
** Work is tracked in {{Bug|1655283}}.
** Work is tracked in {{Bug|1655283}}.
** It was planned to be added to 2.53.4 but because of some issues with the l10n versions integration will be delayed.
** '''IanN''' will retest after some server changes and plans to include it in 2.53.5.
** They did some server changes. '''IanN''' will test if they help with the seen l10n issues.
* Some SeaMonkey SVG icons are not available to the public.
* Some SeaMonkey SVG icons are not available to the public.
** '''KaiRo''' has sent some svgs to '''IanN'''. We need to find a place for the remaining ones.
** '''KaiRo''' has sent some svgs to '''IanN'''. We need to find a place for the remaining ones.
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* VS2019 will not be upgraded to 16.7 on the Windows builder.
* VS2019 will not be upgraded to 16.7 on the Windows builder.
** The clang breakage has been fixed by updating clang to 11 rc2 but x86 VS2019 builds fail in the link step.
** The clang breakage has been fixed by updating clang to 11 rc2 but x86 VS2019 builds fail in the link step.
** {{Bug|1657913}} tracks it for mozilla-central.
** {{Bug|1657913}} tracks it for mozilla-central and was closed.
** '''frg''' tested the 16.8 preview and it will break clang 11 again.
** '''frg''' tested the 16.8 preview and it will break clang 11 again.
** Bill uses VS2017 for now which is much more stable together with clang.
** Bill uses VS2017 for now which is much more stable together with clang and is still being updated.
* All domains but .hu have been transferred. The .hu transfer is ongoing.
* All domains but .hu have been transferred. The .hu transfer is ongoing.
* We might discontinue the gated SeaMonkey newsgroup mailing lists.
* We might discontinue the gated SeaMonkey newsgroup mailing lists.
** At least the archiving of the lists should be discontinued.
** At least the archiving of the lists should be discontinued.
** Newsgroups themselves and the internal lists are unaffected.
** Newsgroups themselves and the internal lists are unaffected.
* We are discussing updating compilers for the official x64 Linux and macOS builds.
** gcc 6.3.1 for Linux and clang 5 for macOS are somehwat outdated now.
** '''buc''' reported a perceived performance gain using a modern compiler compiling Linux x64 under Fedora.
** gcc 8 and clang 7 are available for centOS 7 and would not break minimum library dependencies for Linux x64 builds.
** '''frg''' and '''WG9s''' use clang 8 and 9 for macOS builds. Mozilla uses clang 9 which works fine.
** Linux x86 builds need to stay on gcc 6.3.1.


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** comm-central builds will no longer be published on the unofficial site.
** comm-central builds will no longer be published on the unofficial site.
** {{Bug|1611647}} was filed for SeaMonkey to do the rename from xul to xhtml files and references.
** {{Bug|1611647}} was filed for SeaMonkey to do the rename from xul to xhtml files and references.
** For building please stay at Rust 1.43 for now on all platforms.
** Packaging is currently broken because of some removals done by the Thunderbird devs. Fix by '''WG9s''' is in the unofficial patch queue. '''frg''' plans to file a bug and check it in this week.
** See {{Bug|1452448}} for current comm-central breakages. This is not up to date.
** See {{Bug|1452448}} for current comm-central breakages. This is not up to date.


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** Do not use any current comm-release based release.
** Do not use any current comm-release based release.
** For building please apply the patches from Bills website to the noted comm-release and mozilla-release changeset.
** For building please apply the patches from Bills website to the noted comm-release and mozilla-release changeset.
*** An updated unofficial 2.53.4 is available from [http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ WG9's website]. We accept filing bugs against it.
*** An updated unofficial 2.53.x is available from [http://www.wg9s.com/comm-253/ WG9's website]. We accept filing bugs against it.
*** If you want to build the latest release without pending fixes you can also check out from [https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/ gitlab].
*** If you want to build the latest release without pending fixes you can also check out from [https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/ gitlab].
*** stylo and webrender building is currently broken but disabled by default.
*** stylo and webrender building is currently broken but disabled by default.
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*** The release notes and website update are tracked in {{Bug|1669079}}.
*** The release notes and website update are tracked in {{Bug|1669079}}.
*** When available later the sources can be checked out from the 2_53_5_beta_01 branch in the [https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project gitlab project repos].
*** When available later the sources can be checked out from the 2_53_5_beta_01 branch in the [https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project gitlab project repos].
*** Among other thigs this release adds webp and av1 support.
*** Among other things this release adds webp and av1 support.
*** NASM is now needed to build with av1 support. 2.14.2 is recommended.
*** NASM is now needed to build with av1 support. 2.14.2 is recommended.
*** The release will be build with rust simd support enabled.
*** Plans are for it to be on the 10/05 unofficial patch level. Not yet reviewed patches will be either taken out or finalized after review.
** '''SeaMonkey 2.53.4 final was released September 22nd!'''
** '''SeaMonkey 2.53.4 final was released September 22nd!'''
*** The 2.53.4 final release was tracked in {{Bug|1663312}}.
*** The 2.53.4 final release was tracked in {{Bug|1663312}}.
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** Rust 1.41.0 and later compatibility is being worked on. This is tracked in {{Bug|1617782}}.
** Rust 1.41.0 and later compatibility is being worked on. This is tracked in {{Bug|1617782}}.
*** Compiling with a current rust version works under Linux only with stylo and webrender disabled.
*** Compiling with a current rust version works under Linux only with stylo and webrender disabled.
** Session Manager 0.8.14 is now available and supports the 2.53.x releases.
** Toolbar Buttons 1.1 and 1.1.1 is broken because it uses an obsolete and removed string l10n api. Standalone toolbar buttons and 1.0.2.1 seem to work.
** Toolbar Buttons 1.1 and 1.1.1 is broken because it uses an obsolete and removed string l10n api. Standalone toolbar buttons and 1.0.2.1 seem to work.
** NPAPI support other than for Flash has been discontinued. The release notes address this.
** The following bugs are not yet fixed in 2.53.x:
** The following bugs are not yet fixed in 2.53.x:
*** {{Bug|1409458}} "Privacy Issue: Replying to or forwarding an HTML e-mail with external content".
*** {{Bug|1409458}} "Privacy Issue: Replying to or forwarding an HTML e-mail with external content".
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