SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2011-08-09

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: 9 August, 2011, 12:00 UTC
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? -> TBA
• Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
  • Please note A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

• More people need to help out with taking of the meeting notes. Ratty to send an email to SeaMonkey-members list summarizing what needs doing and asking for people to share duties. Still TODO, somehow this fell between the cracks.
• We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
  • We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination). IanN has put out an email to the members list. InvisibleSmiley came up with some sensible suggestions.
  • We need to advertise such a thing happens even if it is only in the meeting notice.

CLOSED

• IanN to triage the 2.2-tracking bugs, and move as needed to the appropriate target version.

K.I.V.

• Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn't hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.

Release Train

• For comm-aurora, we also should regard strings there as much frozen as possible. In the future, string freeze is the uplift from central to aurora, which matches Firefox.
• If we have any actual fixes that don't need L10n changes (not enhancements) on central but not beta, they should go there if possible.
• Bug authors and/or reviewers should request relevant approvals for comm-aurora/beta when necessary.
• Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
• First beta of 2.3 is due out shortly and then we'll have about 3 weeks to release. Target release date is 16th August.

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

• Addon Compatibility Listings created and maintained by InvisibleSmiley.
  • InvisibleSmiley moved Dictionary Switcher to "AMO", removed "under review" from MailNews Status Icons; moved FireFTP and Copy URL + to "External Sources", added IE Tab + and Scriptish to "AMO"
  • DERoss added Signature Switch to "Needs Addition to install.rdf"
  • Various other updates over the past two weeks, including Greasemonkey (from xsidebar site) marked as working.
• AMO has a compatible version of Engimail now, and an experimental one for Lightning. Unfortunately these two Calendar extensions must be sought under Thunderbird and "All versions".
• Besides Lightning, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.1.
  • Useful query: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/?sort=popular
• InvisibleSmiley created a 2.1 FAQ Wiki page. Everybody please help update it.
  • The FAQ should be version-agnostic and have version updates mentioned in it so Jens or whoever won't need to keep changing the version numbers.
• KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.
• The whole FAQ/AddonCompat information needs to be re-thought with versions in mind but InvisibleSmiley lacks the time to do it. It's a wiki so we can try to offload it. Ratty suggests involving imput from seamonkey-members and/or mozilla.support.seamonkey.

SeaMonkey 2.2

open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (26)

• The New 2.2 Features page has a comprehensive list of features.
• AUS updates from (2.0 -> 2.2 and 2.1 -> 2.2):
  • 2.1->2.2 is a minor update and should be online as automatic already.
  • 2.0->2.2 is a major update (MU) and is online now, too.
• 2.2 had ~43300 ADU yesterday, 112457 downloads so far.
  • vs. 63682 on 2.0 (and 4437 on 2.1) so about 20k have migrated from 2.0 to 2.2 in the last week.
• The release notes should also mention (or provide a link to) any fixed security issues in order to support our mantra that you need to install updates to stay secure.

Follow-ups and Issues

• Lost Bookmarks bug 673474 and Cookies bug 673672 on auto-update from 2.0.14 to 2.2.
  • Bookmarks can be re-imported from bookmarks.html.
• A XUL Core bug causing symptoms like:
  • bug 671192 Command "Paste without Formatting" in message window is missing.
  • bug 672258 Wrong context menu can be shown if two different windowtypes have the same contextmenu id and xul cache is enabled.
  • IanN is testing out a workaround suggested by Neil for the context menu issue, the core bug is still there though, but only we seem to be exposing it at the moment.
• Regression in Addressbook (bug 671251 Cannot drag & drop contacts to another address book) [fixed].
• Regressions in the Mail Advanced Search Window (bug 671605 Search window does not allow to open second message from result list) [fixed].
• Users are unhappy about various UX and usability issues with the new Data Manager.
  • Ratty proposes that until all the major pain points are addressed, links to the old individual managers be established (probably from the various Data Manager panes).
• [InvisibleSmiley] We need to try harder to fix regressions ASAP. I feel there is still too much delay. IMO regressions from the last stable version need to be addressed with top priority, especially in light of the rapid release train.

SeaMonkey 2.3

open tracking (3) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (5)

• SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 2 was released on 3rd August 2011.
• SeaMonkey 2.3 Beta 3 is expected to be released around 8th August.
• The release date for 2.3 final is still about 16th August.

Several breakages (AB, opening MailNews search results) have only been fixed after 2.3b1 was tagged. Should we respin?

• [Kairo] I'm against a respin, that's what a b2 is for and we'll need one anyhow.
• [IanN] My preference is that the b1 release notice, mentions the known issues.

Further 2.x scheduling

• Current release notes are for 2.2. Once we have 2.3 or later, relnotes need to be updated.
• Please help updating the New 2.3 Features page as we go.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 64 new, 28 fixed, 25 triaged.

• New bugs seem to be outstripping fixed/triaged but still a good amount of triaging going on.
• Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

Open reviews/flags: 34 review 12 super-review 1 ui-review 8 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

Active

• Kill-RDF:
  • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object. [serge]
• bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
  • Progressing slowly, still waiting on reviews from TB side. Full customization has to go to 2.next (currently 2.5 but will probably be pushed back further) as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
• de-RDF bug 654864 has been finished and landed on all development branches, including comm-beta (2.3). Still to do:
  • Neil wanted to follow up on some listener issues
  • for the selection issue, see what the TB guys come up with in bug 669203

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

• Kill-RDF:
  • bug 657607 Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
• bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
  • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
• bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
• bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
  • kaze is currently busy with his new job so doesn't have any to spend on this.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
  • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
• bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
• bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
• bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug.
• bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
  • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
  • The rest is unowned so far.
• bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
  • Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.
• bug 515734 Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.
• bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address
  • Note: The actual task here is to port bug 45715 "Reply to List" [button/(context) menu item]

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

InvisibleSmiley

• Fixed:
  • bug 675531 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.3 Beta 2 release
  • bug 675255 Port part 2 of |bug 669913 - Viewing Sync quota blocks the entire Options window|
  • bug 675263 Port |bug 668622 - Move sync at startup logic (autoConnect, etc.) to SyncScheduler|
  • bug 639970 Error: "document is null" / "Weave is not defined" in syncUI.js
  • bug 654864 Suite changes from |bug 422845 - Replace rdf-driven addressbook directory tree with js one|

• Working On:
  • bug 674445 Create/Update 2.3 Release Notes
  • bug 677010 Show update channel on about: page