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It's not at all clear that removing this requirement will make any difference. As long as we have mailing lists, we can convert them to news in various ways, including the gmane.org service (where anyone can apply to have it done, not just us). Also, the last time we did a survey, a significant proportion of current users used this access method.
It's not at all clear that removing this requirement will make any difference. As long as we have mailing lists, we can convert them to news in various ways, including the gmane.org service (where anyone can apply to have it done, not just us). Also, the last time we did a survey, a significant proportion of current users used this access method.


Ditching the news requirement would allow us to just go wholly to Google Groups. We would then, at least, have everything in the hands of one organization. However, [John Resig has some thoughts http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/] about why that might not be a good idea. They are unlikely to be any more responsive to problem reports than they are now.
Ditching the news requirement would allow us to just go wholly to Google Groups. We would then, at least, have everything in the hands of one organization. However, [http://ejohn.org/blog/google-groups-is-dead/ John Resig has some thoughts] about why that might not be a good idea. They are unlikely to be any more responsive to problem reports than they are now.


===Why can't we ditch the mailing list part? I hate mailing lists. That'll make things better.===
===Why can't we ditch the mailing list part? I hate mailing lists. That'll make things better.===
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===Why can't we go web-only? One thing is much easier to maintain than three.===
===Why can't we go web-only? One thing is much easier to maintain than three.===


The UI of the web-based discussion forums we can find, particularly with relation to threading and unread message markers, still hasn't caught up with email and news. It's very hard to consume a large quantity of information this way.
The UI of the web-based discussion forums we can find, particularly with relation to threading and unread message markers, still hasn't caught up with email and news. It's very hard to consume a large quantity of information this way. Google Groups may be an exception to this... but that takes us back to one of the earlier questions.


===Why don't we bring it all in-house?===
===Why don't we bring it all in-house?===
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==Summary==
==Summary==


This page is not supposed to be "why we can't change anything", but it does set out some of the things which show why the solution is not simple.
This page is not supposed to be "why we can't change anything", but it does set out some of the things which show why the solution is not simple. If we could find decent open-source web-based discussion forum software which we could plug mailing lists into, we'd be in a much better place.
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