Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-10-28

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

• Tuesday, Oct 28, 16:30 UTC (9:30am Pacific, 12:30pm Eastern)
• How to dial-in

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? --> Standard8
• Minute taking Schedule. Talk to davida for schedule changes/additions.

Calls For Help

• davida would appreciate assistance on the autoconfiguration branch. (The awesome create-a-new-account screen where you just enter your e-mail address and it figures out most/all of the details for you.) One particular area that could use assistance is handling certificates in the connection detection logic.

Action Items

Open

• From the Alpha 3 post-mortem:
  • davida: Major items for beta 1 to be nailed down asap
    • much of this is done
• dmose: drive JS-in-mail discussion
• davida: will escalate issue of separate messaging crash-stats server
• davida: needs to identify the major work items for thunderbird 3 and break them down by the beta/release they will be in.
• From the Alpha 3 post-mortem (individuals should take your own items and go through them):
  • sipaq: Document details on what should happen before, during and after the string freeze, and the effects on developers at the relevant times.
  • wsmwk: Put up tracking bug for issues from releases during litmus tests.
  • wsmwk: Need to define what tests (e.g. smoketests/basic functional/unit tests etc) should go where and where they are filed.
  • standard8: Generate some gristmill example scripts, and encourage others to use gristmill and file bugs to help improve it.
  • standard8: Send mail to release-drivers, do we need some overall cleanup of relnote bugs?
  • tb-drivers: Go through current MailNews/TB relnote bugs and work out what is really necessary.

Closed

• • bienvenu: Pick an intermediate milestone for landing most of the big items. Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0b1

Thunderbird 3 Beta 1

• bienvenu is release driver
• gozer is build engineer
• Proposed String freeze date: 2008-11-13
• Code Freeze date: 2008-11-18

• davida will identify the must-absolutely-have items for beta 1 (part of the new action item planning what must happen by when)
  • Proposed intermediate target (to prevent everything either landing at the end or missing) for major items: Friday, October 31
    • Gloda
      • Definitely land with the pref turning it off, ideally with it turned on
    • AutoConfig
      • Definitely land as an additional menu item, not yet replacing account wizard
    • Kill-RDF
      • SeaMonkey note: need to land ASAP as it may cause problems
    • Cross-folder views
• pre-release testday(s)
  • purpose: solidify functionality & stability for big features/changes
  • testday 1 - pre-freeze - if wanted on Friday Nov 7, and want publicity via about:mozilla, then need good info by Oct 30
  • testday 2 wanted during bake time / post-freeze, but before release candidate is available? For example ~ Nov 20 (code freeze target is Nov 18). (And might help draw draw more people to QA b1.)

Thunderbird 3

• Draft Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:DevRoadmap identifies major work items on the plate for Tb3 -- much of it needs scheduling, owning, breakdown.
  • folks interested in helping with front-end stuff, some simple, should ask in #maildev

Roundtable

Status Updates

nth10sd

• bug 461915 - TM potential crash exploit
• Thoughts on teaching open source

Standard8

• Reviews
• Password Manager - started work on the backend again (bug 433316)
  • Got some code in place to try and obtain passwords from toolkit password manager before prompting. This fixed some of the unit tests when building with toolkit password manager.
  • Came across and fixed bug bug 461341 - when toolkit password manager migrates usernames it needs to unescape them.
  • Wallet password details haven't been kept up to date with username/hostname changes - discussions in bug 433316 on how to fix this.
  • bug 461029 POP protocol will now PR_LOG errors it also displays to the user.
  • Noticed than nsMsgMailNewsURL was the only use nsUrlListenerManager and that in turn was effectively an nsTObserverArray - replaced the appropriate code bug 461946
    • Then noticed possible (small?) perf improvement and filed bug 461951
• Performance
  • More work on bloat tests to try and stabilise Mac box.
• More work on bug 326809 modernize nsIMsgHeaderParser

bienvenu

• Reviews and Driving
• Cross-folder threading/grouping going through review process. Some preparatory work has landed. bug 379806
• Made SeaMonkey work in kill-rdf repository. Some preparatory changes have landed; In review process for others bug 414038
• Working on getting autoconfig repo in shape to land.
• Fixed problem where saving message was leaving the dest file locked bug 461256
• Fixed toggling imap message read state in cross-folder saved search, bug 461584
• Landed fix for bug 455966 - IMAP threadsafety assertions when retrying url.
• Building and running Lightning with Google calendar - tracking major usability bugs I find.

emre

• bug 547452: Leaking on shutdown problem: landed.
• bug 456839: Started to experiment.
• bug 383489: Work in progress, expected to land a patch sometime this week, or early next week latest.
• bug 257942: A demo showing auto-sync and activity manager in action has submitted last Sunday. Activity grouping by context has been implemented. Starting to work on error handling.

gozer

• Web
  • SpreadThunderbird
    • More setup work for spreadthunderbird.com
    • Work completed from my POV, it's in the hands of the designers for now
• Build
  • Leak testing looking better, got Linux, OS X & Win32 builders up on MozillaTest
    • Ready to move them to the Thunderbird tinderbox tree? (osx still flapping)
    • Graph Server support is possible, bug 61041
  • hg.mozilla.org still breaking from time to time
    • hg-mirror.mozillamessaging.com is feasible (tested)
      • HgPollers would need some work
  • Sunbird/Calendar
    • Tinderbox is all green, but low on disk space bug 461337
    • l10n repacks are hapenning, except for OS X bug 459402
    • Nightlies should be updating themselves, but don't seem to be
• Systems
  • Mozilla Messaging top-level svn area on svn.mozilla.org
    • Will be moving the corporate site content over there soon, you'll have to svn switch your checkouts