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Meeting Notes

1. Project NeMo Kickoff

Date : Date: 29th Feb 2012
Time : 16:00 Hrs UTC

Attendees of the meeting

1. Kinshuk Sunil
2. Syafiq Mazli
3. Chit Thiri Maung (ahkeno)
4. Sayak Sarkar
5. Mashkawat Ahsan
6. Soumya Deb
7. Dwaraka Nath
8. Shannon Prior
9. Harvish Sekar
10. Ademas Pramuatmaja
11. Gaurav Parashar
12. Mohammad Aidid
13. Gautam Akiwate

Agenda of the meeting

Check for the agenda here: Agenda for Kickoff

Click to view Meeting Transcript
Conversation with #spinzone (06:21:35 PM) The topic for #spinzone is: Welcome to the Spin Zone (06:21:41 PM) Kinshuk left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (06:21:51 PM) KinshukSunil left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (06:43:20 PM) Kinshuk [Kinshuk@5B7AF992.BAC883F2.6FA4889A.IP] entered the room. (06:43:26 PM) Kuhsnik [Kinshuk@5B7AF992.BAC883F2.6FA4889A.IP] entered the room. (07:01:52 PM) You're not channel operator (07:28:59 PM) Kinshuk left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (07:28:59 PM) Kuhsnik left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (07:30:34 PM) Kinshuk [Kinshuk@5B7AF992.BAC883F2.6FA4889A.IP] entered the room. (07:30:36 PM) Kuhsnik [Kinshuk@5B7AF992.BAC883F2.6FA4889A.IP] entered the room. (07:32:20 PM) Kuhsnik left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (07:32:23 PM) KinshukSunil [Kinshuk@5B7AF992.BAC883F2.6FA4889A.IP] entered the room. (07:44:02 PM) KinshukSunil left the room (quit: Connection reset by peer). (07:44:18 PM) KinshukSunil [Kinshuk@5B7AF992.BAC883F2.6FA4889A.IP] entered the room. (08:08:06 PM) dedek [dedek@DBDB3146.D6622A1C.408D2D8B.IP] entered the room. (08:15:27 PM) Kinshuk left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (08:15:37 PM) KinshukSunil left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (08:33:04 PM) Ahsan [chatzilla@FA4A0F09.2C881653.6DC151A0.IP] entered the room. (08:34:16 PM) Ahsan left the room. (08:34:29 PM) syafiqmazli [syafiqmazl@414277B9.2F145192.525D7028.IP] entered the room. (08:34:56 PM) syafiqmazli: the meeting is started? (08:44:27 PM) dtsdwarak: not yet (08:44:31 PM) dtsdwarak: stil an hour to go (08:44:35 PM) dtsdwarak: syafizmazli (08:45:18 PM) dtsdwarak: sorry for the mistake syafiqmazli (08:47:41 PM) syafiqmazli: okay (08:48:10 PM) syafiqmazli: the time here is getting 12 pm, i dont know if i able to join (08:48:26 PM) syafiqmazli: otherwise i will follow your guys meeting update (08:48:27 PM) syafiqmazli: :) (08:49:56 PM) dtsdwarak: sure syafiq ! (08:50:11 PM) dtsdwarak: so, just follow up the agenda and meeting notes (08:50:21 PM) dtsdwarak: go through https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b-tjWapQwGN3O2-VKXfS8G-XdN9XiCmhu-_Lf_NIYJw/edit?pli=1 (08:50:39 PM) dtsdwarak: and https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 (09:08:13 PM) ZA3MON [ZA3MON@60FDC87C.7980C3BD.EEFFBC6A.IP] entered the room. (09:10:10 PM) Kinshuk [Kinshuk@C1DF0410.67D0B89B.493B1C0B.IP] entered the room. (09:10:21 PM) Kuhsnik [Kinshuk@C1DF0410.67D0B89B.493B1C0B.IP] entered the room. (09:13:13 PM) ahkeno [Mibbit@4299B8F0.CFAC1AC.7215E1C1.IP] entered the room. (09:13:40 PM) chit [Mibbit@4299B8F0.CFAC1AC.7215E1C1.IP] entered the room. (09:14:15 PM) chit left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client). (09:14:42 PM) ahkeno left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client). (09:16:17 PM) ahkeno [Mibbit@4299B8F0.CFAC1AC.7215E1C1.IP] entered the room. (09:16:49 PM) gregglind_away is now known as gregglind (09:17:22 PM) ahkeno: hi :) (09:17:22 PM) Kinshuk: Finding Nemo... (09:17:32 PM) dedek: hi (09:17:39 PM) dtsdwarak: hi ahkeno dedek and Kinshuk ! (09:18:08 PM) Kinshuk: hello (09:19:16 PM) ZA3MON: hello everyone! :-) (09:19:30 PM) dtsdwarak: hi za3mon ! (09:19:44 PM) Kinshuk: are we starting ? (09:19:55 PM) Ahsan [chatzilla@FA4A0F09.2C881653.6DC151A0.IP] entered the room. (09:19:56 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll wait for 10 mins (09:20:14 PM) Kinshuk: ok (09:20:38 PM) dtsdwarak: add your names here https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 and put in your suggestions there as well (09:22:35 PM) Sayak [Mibbit@22AB05C8.E308F392.299C3E90.IP] entered the room. (09:22:59 PM) Kinshuk: dtsdwarak i am afraid i will have to leave in between in another 10-15 mins :( (09:23:24 PM) Sayak: Hi!! :-) (09:23:29 PM) dtsdwarak: oh... :( never mind Kinshuk. Will share the meeting notes with you (09:24:11 PM) Kinshuk: it would be the same etherpad no ? (09:24:17 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah (09:25:38 PM) dtsdwarak: Hey everybody ! Let's wait for 10 more minutes for others to join. Sorry for the trouble :( Thanks ! (09:26:35 PM) matej [mnovak@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP] entered the room. (09:26:53 PM) dtsdwarak: Kinshuk who is the operator of this channel ? (09:27:07 PM) Kinshuk: dtsdwarak no clue. i dont see one here right now (09:27:10 PM) syafiqmazli: Hi everyone (09:27:18 PM) Kinshuk: maybe nigelb knows? (09:27:25 PM) Kinshuk: nigelb who is the op for this channel ? (09:27:27 PM) chelsea [chelsea@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP] entered the room. (09:28:11 PM) chelsea left the room (quit: Quit: chelsea). (09:28:17 PM) chelsea [chelsea@F2D29657.F60B0462.67AC9B1.IP] entered the room. (09:28:44 PM) Kinshuk: dtsdwarak read the email ? (09:28:53 PM) Kinshuk: shannon replied (09:29:17 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah (09:30:17 PM) ahkeno: so we move another? (09:30:34 PM) dtsdwarak: for the next meeting maybe ahkeno (09:30:36 PM) dtsdwarak: not for now (09:30:57 PM) dtsdwarak: our first meeting happens here in #spinzone (09:31:14 PM) ahkeno: ok (09:31:28 PM) Kinshuk: lets begin ? (09:31:50 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay. (09:31:51 PM) dtsdwarak: sure (09:32:13 PM) dtsdwarak: Let's begin with the introductions first ! (09:32:27 PM) dtsdwarak: Me dtsdwarak - Dwaraka Nath from Chennai, India (09:32:34 PM) dtsdwarak: Mother tongue - Telugu (09:32:53 PM) dtsdwarak: let's go by the list in agenda (09:32:59 PM) Kinshuk: I am Kinshuk - Kinshuk Sunil from Delhi India, Mother tongue - Hindi (09:33:01 PM) syafiqmazli: Hi Dwaraka. :) (09:33:02 PM) dtsdwarak: attendee list (09:33:10 PM) dtsdwarak: hi syafiqmazli ! (09:33:41 PM) Sayak: I'm Sayak Sarkar from Pune, India, Mother tongue - Bengali (09:33:44 PM) Sayak: :-) (09:33:46 PM) ahkeno: hi syafiq (09:33:57 PM) dtsdwarak: others introduce yourselves please ! (09:34:01 PM) dtsdwarak: :) (09:34:08 PM) syafiqmazli: I am Syafiq - Muhammad Syafiq Mazli from Kuala Lumpur, Mother tongue - Bahasa Malaysia / Malay (09:34:13 PM) Ahsan: Mashkawat Ahsan - from Dhaka, Bangladesh (lang - Bengali) (09:34:39 PM) dtsdwarak: fine :) (09:34:43 PM) dtsdwarak: I guess that's it for now (09:34:44 PM) dedek: I am Aidid- Mohammad Aidid from Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia, Mother tongue - Bahasa Malaysia / Malay (09:34:54 PM) ahkeno: Chit from Myanmar.. (09:35:15 PM) ahkeno: hehe feel like I'm in Miss Universe :P (09:35:18 PM) dtsdwarak: hi dedek Ahsan and ahkeno ! (09:35:21 PM) dtsdwarak: lol :D (09:35:24 PM) syafiqmazli: hi Miss universe! (09:35:40 PM) dtsdwarak: please put in your names in https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 in attendee list if you haven't yet (09:35:43 PM) Kinshuk: lwal (09:35:45 PM) Sayak: :D (09:36:15 PM) ahkeno: :) (09:36:22 PM) dtsdwarak: So now, I guess everyone have seen the Project goal for NeMo (09:36:24 PM) dtsdwarak: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1b-tjWapQwGN3O2-VKXfS8G-XdN9XiCmhu-_Lf_NIYJw/edit?pli=1 (09:36:48 PM) dtsdwarak: reply if so (09:37:08 PM) Ahsan: yes (09:37:26 PM) dedek: yes (09:37:28 PM) Sayak: yups (09:37:38 PM) dtsdwarak: cool ! (09:37:53 PM) dtsdwarak: So, let me introduce the project and its workflow (09:38:29 PM) dtsdwarak: In most parts of the world, people still rely on newspapers (09:38:37 PM) dtsdwarak: and other magazines for most part (09:39:14 PM) dtsdwarak: until now, most of the activities concerning Mozilla and its contribution has taken place only in Internet (09:39:21 PM) dtsdwarak: and occasionally in some newspapers (09:39:56 PM) gaurav [Mibbit@BBFF6DE2.F290B02F.F44414AF.IP] entered the room. (09:40:03 PM) dtsdwarak: so, its only the people who are frequent with internet and blogs come to know stuff regarding Mozilla and other projects (09:40:11 PM) dtsdwarak: not just mozilla, but anyother FOSS activity (09:40:37 PM) dtsdwarak: With our Project NeMo we reach out to the larger population out there via Print media (09:40:57 PM) dtsdwarak: out target audience is varied (09:41:15 PM) ZA3MON: Hello! I'm Ademas from Indonesia :D (09:41:21 PM) dtsdwarak: it may be your aunt, uncle, grandpa or the lady next door. everyone under the sun ! (09:41:54 PM) ZA3MON: yes, i've seen the project goal for NeMo (09:41:59 PM) dtsdwarak: What we do, what Mozilla does, is globally significant (09:42:28 PM) Kinshuk left the room (quit: Quit: has gone fishing). (09:43:05 PM) dtsdwarak: to reach out to the larger section of the audience, we use Print media by articles now and later using other forms like comics etc (09:43:12 PM) dtsdwarak: okay until now ? (09:43:33 PM) ZA3MON: okay (09:43:35 PM) dedek: yup (09:43:49 PM) Ahsan: ok (09:43:50 PM) syafiqmazli: yes (09:44:11 PM) Sayak: yup (09:44:14 PM) ahkeno: sure (09:44:27 PM) Kuhsnik left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (09:44:32 PM) dtsdwarak: So, the thing is what we write may be on literally any topic that is concerned with FOSS and Open Source (09:44:40 PM) dtsdwarak: in general (09:44:44 PM) dtsdwarak: and Mozilla in particular (09:45:13 PM) dtsdwarak: Like for example, (09:45:33 PM) dtsdwarak: take any of the technologies that Mozilla has come up with (09:45:45 PM) dtsdwarak: like Firefox and Thunderbird (09:45:55 PM) dtsdwarak: right from the time Internet has opened to public, (09:46:11 PM) dtsdwarak: many technologies have come in place to aid it (09:46:23 PM) dtsdwarak: like initially there was html, then tags, css etc (09:46:46 PM) dtsdwarak: later websockets, and now recently html5, webm, css, svg etc (09:46:58 PM) dtsdwarak: its just the geeks who understand what it is (09:47:03 PM) dtsdwarak: and how significant it is (09:47:05 PM) gaurav: but how we can attach a normal man reading the article interested in it? (09:47:10 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah gaurav (09:47:13 PM) dtsdwarak: that's the point (09:47:32 PM) dtsdwarak: with our project, we write short articles (09:47:42 PM) sprior [sprior@moz-C03D0C61.vlan426.asr1.sfo1.gblx.net] entered the room. (09:47:42 PM) mode (+o sprior) by ChanServ (09:47:58 PM) dtsdwarak: in very simple english/any language on how significant those things are ! (09:48:16 PM) ZA3MON: i see :-} (09:48:36 PM) dtsdwarak: and in sometimes, there are standards that need to be followed (09:48:41 PM) dtsdwarak: for the openness of the web (09:48:54 PM) dtsdwarak: we tell people why we need them at all in first place (09:48:56 PM) sprior_ [sprior@moz-C03D0C61.vlan426.asr1.sfo1.gblx.net] entered the room. (09:49:17 PM) dtsdwarak: remember that the things you write are meant for people with no background (09:49:31 PM) dtsdwarak: so, we tell them like how you tell a kid a story (09:49:51 PM) dtsdwarak: hope you all understand what i mean to say :) (09:50:10 PM) dtsdwarak: We've already worked on initial list of articles for example here : https://etherpad.mozilla.org/MozillaPress (09:50:14 PM) ahkeno: yes (09:50:14 PM) Sayak: yup (09:50:16 PM) Sayak: :) (09:50:17 PM) sprior left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (09:50:17 PM) sprior_ is now known as sprior (09:50:23 PM) syafiqmazli: :) (09:50:30 PM) ZA3MON: yes :D (09:50:33 PM) dtsdwarak: hi sprior ! (09:50:37 PM) sprior: hi (09:50:59 PM) dtsdwarak: sprior please introduce yourself (09:51:29 PM) syafiqmazli: hi shannon! (09:51:32 PM) sprior: hi all - I am shannon from the moz PR team. checking in from San Francisco! (09:51:33 PM) sprior: hi! (09:51:35 PM) dtsdwarak: za3mon and sprior put in your name in our meeting attendee list https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 (09:51:47 PM) dedek: hola (09:51:59 PM) sprior: hmm ether pad is not working (09:51:59 PM) sprior: :/ (09:52:11 PM) dtsdwarak: I'll do it for you (09:52:12 PM) dtsdwarak: :) (09:53:19 PM) dtsdwarak: so, people, are we good until now ? any questions please raise. if we're okay, we'll move to the organizational process of the project (09:54:06 PM) sprior: dtsdwarak: is that number 3 on the agenda? (09:54:40 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah. that's the number 3. but, just wanted to get a quick review before we move over to explaining further (09:54:49 PM) dtsdwarak: seemed like i've told a lot (09:54:57 PM) syafiqmazli: Question : An article will localize to various language or we could have different version of topic related? (09:55:06 PM) spacetime [spacetime2@moz-E33D861B.webfaction.com] entered the room. (09:55:37 PM) dtsdwarak: syafiqmazli : the main article that has been approved will get localized in other languages (09:55:49 PM) gaurav: Hii all - I am Gaurav Parashar an academician from ghaziabad, UP. I have a question here: As how a my mom can link herself to mozilla? (09:56:11 PM) ZA3MON: @dtsdwarak: done! :-) (09:56:15 PM) Debloper [G33K@995D8113.1EBFCA9F.A33B856D.IP] entered the room. (09:56:28 PM) dtsdwarak: sorry gaurav, we don't get you (09:56:39 PM) gaurav: My question is (09:56:48 PM) Swarnava [chatzilla@BA3E7659.32CDF0B8.579AD8A4.IP] entered the room. (09:56:57 PM) **Debloper is sorry for being late, let it continue, he'll catch up. (09:57:10 PM) gaurav: How can a common reader who does not have any understanding of intenet (09:57:37 PM) gaurav: and other issues of web can understand Mozilla initiatives. (09:57:48 PM) dtsdwarak: cool gaurav, gotcha ! (09:57:58 PM) dtsdwarak: We'll have to hit from the basics (09:58:16 PM) dtsdwarak: that's how we're going to make the article line up as (09:58:26 PM) dtsdwarak: we start from what and why of FOSS (09:58:30 PM) dtsdwarak: how significant it is (09:58:37 PM) dtsdwarak: if you've noticed the initial article line up (09:58:53 PM) dtsdwarak: you would find the style easy to read (09:58:57 PM) dtsdwarak: for just about anyone (09:59:09 PM) gaurav: If we can start with the issues and then cook up things around them then i think it will do benifit, (09:59:27 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah. cool (09:59:31 PM) gaurav: say for example: (10:00:04 PM) gaurav: I did reservation of ticket from internet (10:00:30 PM) dtsdwarak: gaurav, if we're done, we'll move on to next section... many of them around are sticking up late night to join the meeting (10:00:40 PM) gaurav: ok (10:00:52 PM) Debloper: dtsdwarak: meeting minute etherpad? (for what did I miss) (10:01:05 PM) kev [kev@moz-E31CD2CB.mozilla.org] entered the room. (10:01:10 PM) dtsdwarak: nothing much has taken place Debloper ! (10:01:11 PM) syafiqmazli: yo captain Debloper! (10:01:18 PM) dtsdwarak: just the introduction part of the project (10:01:22 PM) dtsdwarak: why we're doing it (10:01:52 PM) dtsdwarak: so, now, regarding the organizational part, (10:02:05 PM) dtsdwarak: there will be three main teams that will be working on the project (10:02:11 PM) dtsdwarak: 1. MEDIA OUTREACH (10:02:15 PM) dtsdwarak: 2. CONTENT WRITERS (10:02:20 PM) dtsdwarak: 3. L10N TEAMS (10:02:22 PM) hp [chatzilla@moz-F29CCF54.royalroads.ca] entered the room. (10:02:53 PM) Debloper: syafiqmazli: yaarr yaarr matey! ;) (10:03:07 PM) dtsdwarak: the content writers* are literally the people who shall take this forward (10:03:42 PM) hp left the room (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 10.0.2/20120215223356]). (10:04:05 PM) Swarnava left the room (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88 [Firefox 11.0/20120222074758]). (10:04:29 PM) dtsdwarak: They write articles that will be approved (10:04:34 PM) dtsdwarak: and moved to mozilla wiki (10:04:39 PM) eirwin [chatzilla@moz-F29CCF54.royalroads.ca] entered the room. (10:04:56 PM) dtsdwarak: l10n works with localization (10:05:10 PM) syafiqmazli left the room. (10:05:20 PM) dtsdwarak: and media outreach help in pitching articles in magazines and newspapers (10:05:34 PM) dtsdwarak: hope you went through the stuff in Docs (10:05:46 PM) Sayak: yup (10:05:47 PM) Sayak: :) (10:05:52 PM) dedek: yup (10:06:06 PM) sprior: also the media outreach team will be comms reps :) (10:06:14 PM) dtsdwarak: yes. (10:06:23 PM) dtsdwarak: people who do the media outreach need to be comms reps (10:06:30 PM) dtsdwarak: but, not a must for the othes (10:06:40 PM) dtsdwarak: others* (10:06:44 PM) Sayak: why so?? (10:07:14 PM) dtsdwarak: Debloper and others, please put your names here (10:07:19 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 (10:07:21 PM) Sayak: why cannot people who are not comms reps help with media outreach?? (10:07:29 PM) ZA3MON: same question (10:07:54 PM) sprior: sayak: because you receive special training (10:08:13 PM) sprior: you can ask me in an email and we can go over it on another thread :) (10:08:22 PM) Sayak: ok (10:08:52 PM) Ahsan: i've a question? (10:09:00 PM) dtsdwarak: yes Ahsan ! (10:09:49 PM) Ahsan: i'm not a comms rep, so now i've to remove my name from the media outreach and apply for comms rep (10:10:14 PM) Sayak: same question here (10:10:18 PM) sprior: you can keep your name there. but do apply to be a comms rep. yes. (10:10:30 PM) sprior: https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Communications (10:10:41 PM) sprior: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dEVHNldzU1U4cDhOY3ZRWUJ4d25aZWc6MQ (10:11:00 PM) leo [leo@DAE65A8D.FB9AF43E.3CA12E.IP] entered the room. (10:11:11 PM) Ahsan: ok (10:11:40 PM) dtsdwarak: so, have you got any more questions ? (10:11:51 PM) vagra [Vagra@C0D7E228.E1B3D117.2A068A5E.IP] entered the room. (10:11:54 PM) Sayak: okk (10:11:54 PM) Sayak: :) (10:12:18 PM) Ahsan: no (10:12:48 PM) ZA3MON: not yet :-) (10:13:15 PM) dtsdwarak: the whole backbone of this project is to write articles in simple english (10:13:25 PM) dtsdwarak: like the one in, https://etherpad.mozilla.org/MozillaPress (10:13:30 PM) dtsdwarak: make sure to check them (10:13:48 PM) dtsdwarak: so, now lets brainstorm (10:13:50 PM) dtsdwarak: for topics (10:14:34 PM) *leo waves (10:15:08 PM) dtsdwarak: let's go by the list in https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 (10:15:26 PM) dtsdwarak: first up Ahsan (10:16:28 PM) sprior: dtsdwarak: maybe people just add their ideas to the etherpad? (10:16:39 PM) sprior: that way they can take some time to think about what would be relevant in their area (10:16:43 PM) Debloper: sprior++ (10:16:47 PM) Ahsan: 1. history of the logo of firefox (10:17:05 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah. that will work (10:18:00 PM) gakiwate [Gautam@3AD1CBD5.809D2ACB.314AAB94.IP] entered the room. (10:18:16 PM) dtsdwarak: if you got anything to share that you feel is important do so, else, please enter your ideas @ https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4 under agenda item no.4 brainstorm (10:18:19 PM) *Debloper steps out for a moment. (10:18:20 PM) dtsdwarak: with your name beside that (10:18:24 PM) gaurav: 2. To my understanding we must touch upon general issues so that common man get interested into the articles (10:19:07 PM) dtsdwarak: sure gaurav (10:19:19 PM) dedek: I got one, but not sure if it is good idea to write about (10:19:22 PM) eirwin left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (10:19:24 PM) Ahsan: many people still don't know that Red Panda is firefox. (10:19:31 PM) harvish [harvish@B0747CDF.FAA735B3.8B4AB1DB.IP] entered the room. (10:19:42 PM) dedek: 2. Basic Anatomy of a Webpage (10:19:58 PM) dtsdwarak: Ahsan and dedek, your ideas are great :) (10:19:59 PM) gaurav: like how mozilla helps you to surf internet in much safer way. (10:20:08 PM) dedek: because (10:20:14 PM) dedek: if it is to be consume by mom or dad (10:20:16 PM) dedek: for example (10:20:21 PM) dedek: for a particular use case (10:20:31 PM) dedek: they wont know the basic part or anatomy (10:20:36 PM) dedek: that is common in any web page (10:20:40 PM) dedek: to have those header (10:20:42 PM) dedek: and footer (10:20:52 PM) dtsdwarak: add them over to the topics (10:20:56 PM) dtsdwarak: in etherpad (10:21:01 PM) dedek: yup (10:21:05 PM) dedek: sure will do (10:21:12 PM) harvish left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (10:22:07 PM) dtsdwarak: So, the last topic under agenda as such, promotion of the project (10:22:21 PM) dtsdwarak: any questions on the ideas listed there ? (10:22:36 PM) sprior: dtsdwarak: i sent you my comments via email :)_ (10:22:43 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah sprior. (10:22:49 PM) sprior: perfect! (10:23:09 PM) dtsdwarak: i checked them. just wanted to see if others had some questions (10:23:32 PM) Sayak: 3. History of the Firefox browser itself - From Netscape to Phoenix to Firebird to Firefox (10:23:56 PM) dtsdwarak: Sayak, put that down under the etherpad topics (10:24:09 PM) Sayak: okz (10:24:09 PM) Sayak: :) (10:26:17 PM) dtsdwarak: so, once again, people, any questions on the promotion of the project ? It would be awesome if you can come up with ideas for the promotion... Its the first of its kind, led by us, the comms reps... however crazy your idea may be, make sure to let others know (10:26:41 PM) eirwin [chatzilla@moz-F29CCF54.royalroads.ca] entered the room. (10:26:44 PM) Kinshuk [Kinshuk@C1DF0410.67D0B89B.493B1C0B.IP] entered the room. (10:27:34 PM) gakiwate: So the article that I had in mind was basically to let people know that Mozilla exists in a lot of different languages (10:27:54 PM) gakiwate: And that it exists in a lot of local languages too! (10:27:57 PM) Kuhsnik [Kinshuk@C1DF0410.67D0B89B.493B1C0B.IP] entered the room. (10:28:06 PM) sprior: gakiwate: that is great (10:28:14 PM) gakiwate: But I am not sure how to frame the title of the article :P (10:28:15 PM) sprior: dtsdwarak: can we wrap up. i have another meeting in three mins! (10:28:21 PM) dtsdwarak: sure (10:28:35 PM) dtsdwarak: people, if you got any ideas, please let us know (10:28:51 PM) dtsdwarak: you were really an awesome lot ! (10:29:02 PM) dtsdwarak: great ideas coming in btw ! (10:29:21 PM) gakiwate: dtsdwarak, You can probably wrap up the meeting and ask people to hang around later if they have questions (10:29:39 PM) dtsdwarak: I'm always up online here in this channel (10:30:13 PM) dtsdwarak: Wanted to wrap it up officially so if others wanted to leave, they may (10:30:39 PM) gaurav: thanks (10:31:04 PM) gaurav left the room. (10:31:07 PM) dtsdwarak: Thanks everyone ! (10:31:48 PM) AleksandarS [Aleksandar@8676DE6D.8384669D.90C2761D.IP] entered the room. (10:31:54 PM) gakiwate: dtsdwarak, Can you post a link to the log of the meeting on one of the docs? (10:32:07 PM) dtsdwarak: sure gakiwate (10:32:13 PM) gakiwate: So that people who have missed the meeting can know what happened (10:32:19 PM) gakiwate: dtsdwarak, Thanks (10:34:20 PM) cbrodigan [christineb@moz-C03D0C61.vlan426.asr1.sfo1.gblx.net] entered the room. (10:34:51 PM) nigelb: Kinshuk: shappy probably is the ops for this channel.

2. RLL Status Meeting

Date Time Venue

26th August 2012, 3:30 PM UTC, #nemo

Agenda of the meeting

Check for the agenda here: NeMo RLL Meeting

Attendees

NeMo RLL - People list

Click to view Meeting Transcript
Conversation with #nemo (5:02:03 PM) mode (+n ) by concrete.mozilla.org (5:02:03 PM) mode (+tr ) by ChanServ (5:02:03 PM) ChanServ has changed the topic to: Project News Mozilla (NeMo) \| http://wiki.mozilla.org/NeMo \| RLL Meeting at 15:30 UTC on 26th August 2012 (5:02:03 PM) mode (-o dtsdwarak) by ChanServ (7:55:07 PM) fauzanalfi [fauzanalfi@A6BE2004.C86218C8.251727D7.IP] entered the room. (8:39:02 PM) fauzanalfi: Hi @dtsdwarak! (8:39:09 PM) fauzanalfi: How are you? (8:39:09 PM) dtsdwarak: hi fauzanalfi (8:39:13 PM) dtsdwarak: I'm fine ! (8:39:22 PM) dtsdwarak: how about you ? (8:39:29 PM) fauzanalfi: Good to hear that (8:39:39 PM) fauzanalfi: I'm fine too. Thanks for asking. (8:40:03 PM) fauzanalfi: Do we have any Etherpad link for this meeting? (8:40:21 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah (8:40:29 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 (8:42:36 PM) dtsdwarak: check for the nominations for community leads (8:43:34 PM) bobreyes [Mibbit@4A64D33D.FEA980B.A103AA52.IP] entered the room. (8:45:09 PM) You're not channel operator (8:45:33 PM) fauzanalfi: what's the differences between RLL and Community Leads? (8:45:52 PM) dtsdwarak: rll for l10n (8:46:00 PM) dtsdwarak: community leads for article creation process (8:46:43 PM) fauzanalfi: oh I see... (8:46:52 PM) bobreyes: does that mean the the Lead Localizer title is the same with RLL? (8:47:20 PM) dtsdwarak: yes (8:47:43 PM) dtsdwarak: apart from the fact that they've got the name community lead, RLL and CL are on the same page (8:48:18 PM) bobreyes left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client). (8:50:35 PM) bobreyes [chatzilla@A9D5125.1AA609BA.A4B8B8E8.IP] entered the room. (8:50:35 PM) fauzanalfi: so, can I nominate other person as Community Lead? (8:50:53 PM) bobreyes: Sorry, I got DC a while ago (8:50:59 PM) dtsdwarak: sure. That's the whole point of having this meeting (8:51:06 PM) dtsdwarak: that's okay bob ! (8:51:33 PM) dtsdwarak: if you can find our friends online, please let them know that we're here. (8:52:00 PM) gauthamraj [Gautham@1DC200ED.B3B2A4A8.425A25DC.IP] entered the room. (8:52:28 PM) fauzanalfi: ok! (8:58:23 PM) dtsdwarak: let's wait for some more time. (8:58:25 PM) dtsdwarak: for others to join (8:58:38 PM) bobreyes: no problem (9:01:57 PM) gauthamraj: okay (9:02:39 PM) adiphoenix5 [Dell@401D5EBD.BACD8FB4.8B4AB1DB.IP] entered the room. (9:03:40 PM) Debloper [Debloper@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (9:03:40 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (9:04:09 PM) FrancJP [chatzilla@moz-EBDA315B.red-88-3-82.dynamicip.rima-tde.net] entered the room. (9:04:16 PM) dtsdwarak: The agenda for meeting will be https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 (9:04:24 PM) syafiqmazli [syafiqmazl@9676B939.16F545AD.525D7028.IP] entered the room. (9:04:29 PM) syafiqmazli: hello (9:04:35 PM) dtsdwarak: hi syafiqmazli ! (9:04:38 PM) Debloper: Hi all ;) (9:04:52 PM) syafiqmazli: hi dwarka (9:05:00 PM) FrancJP: hi... sorry for being late... I had an incidence with my mac :S (9:05:09 PM) dtsdwarak: No issues FrancJP ! (9:05:11 PM) syafiqmazli: is the meeting started? (9:05:27 PM) dtsdwarak: no (9:05:29 PM) dtsdwarak: not yet (9:05:43 PM) dtsdwarak: Do anyone of you see Chit around ? (9:05:52 PM) gauthamraj: Hello Everyone :) (9:05:58 PM) dtsdwarak: hi gauthamraj ! (9:06:59 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll start in 5 mins (9:09:26 PM) bobreyes: Can I add my team at https://wiki.mozilla.org/NeMo/People now? (9:09:41 PM) dtsdwarak: Of course you can (9:10:13 PM) syafiqmazli: ping fauzan.. i'm here.. :) (9:10:28 PM) dtsdwarak: gauthamraj: sorry, I didn't add your team. Please add yours too :) (9:11:16 PM) gauthamraj: okay , will do (9:11:28 PM) dtsdwarak: BTW, before we start the meeting, one of the prime agendas will be to look at Community Leads. - people who would lead the article generation process (9:11:32 PM) bobreyes: Thanks! :D (9:12:24 PM) dtsdwarak: As RLLs, you guys have done some awesome work and we would like you to nominate and suggest people for Community leads (9:13:11 PM) dtsdwarak: You can add your suggestions at the link given at Agenda page (9:13:18 PM) dtsdwarak: password: nemocl (9:13:26 PM) vineel [vineelredd@519053EC.4B19CED8.B58D974D.IP] entered the room. (9:13:30 PM) kinshuk [kinshuk@6BF3BB89.C75AFA31.493B1C0B.IP] entered the room. (9:13:56 PM) kinshuk: hi fellas (9:14:05 PM) Debloper: That's weird.. anyway, carry on :P (9:14:25 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay (9:14:31 PM) dtsdwarak: I guess its time we start (9:14:43 PM) syafiqmazli: any etherpad will use for this meeting? (9:14:44 PM) dtsdwarak: Once again, its the agenda I would want to tell you (9:14:45 PM) kinshuk: not started yet :D (9:14:46 PM) kinshuk: great (9:14:47 PM) dtsdwarak: yea, (9:14:50 PM) kinshuk: i didnt miss anythign then XD (9:14:53 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 (9:14:58 PM) dtsdwarak: will be the agenda (9:15:02 PM) dtsdwarak: for today (9:15:16 PM) kinshuk: ok (9:15:21 PM) dtsdwarak: For the introduction part, (9:15:28 PM) Sayak [Mibbit@6339B1A4.7052885A.650F25DA.IP] entered the room. (9:15:40 PM) Sayak: hey Guys!! (9:15:49 PM) Sayak: Sorry for being a bit late (9:15:50 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll start in the order listed sideways (9:15:56 PM) dtsdwarak: first up, bobreyes (9:15:56 PM) dtsdwarak: ! (9:16:10 PM) dtsdwarak: that's okay Sayak (9:16:10 PM) Debloper: Dwaraka, let's start. (9:16:22 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah. Debloper (9:16:27 PM) dtsdwarak: we're on already (9:16:46 PM) dtsdwarak: bobreyes: please introduce yourself and your team and anything, with regard to NeMo (9:17:30 PM) dtsdwarak: bob ? (9:18:02 PM) kinshuk: bobreyes, around ? (9:18:13 PM) dtsdwarak: okay, so Fauzan, can you do the honors please ? (9:18:58 PM) bobreyes: yes .. (9:19:32 PM) dtsdwarak: please introduce yourself bobreyes ! (9:19:36 PM) bobreyes: Robert "Bob" Reyes here from Manila, Philippines. I'm a ReMo and currently the Lead Localizer for the entire country (several dialects and languages) (9:20:04 PM) Sayak: awesome!! (9:20:08 PM) fauzanalfi: ok (9:20:19 PM) fauzanalfi: Hi everyone (9:20:34 PM) kinshuk: hello :) (9:20:39 PM) dtsdwarak: hello fauzanalfi (9:21:11 PM) dtsdwarak: introductions please (9:21:12 PM) fauzanalfi: Fauzan Alfi from Bandung, Indonesia. I'm a ReMo and currently leads on L10n Sundanese project for Firefox (9:21:30 PM) fauzanalfi: Sundanese is one of traditional language from Bandung (9:21:43 PM) fauzanalfi: and now contributing on Project NeMo too. (9:21:51 PM) fauzanalfi: Nice to see you all in this room. (9:21:57 PM) dtsdwarak: that was cool :) great ! (9:22:03 PM) dtsdwarak: FrancJP ? (9:22:24 PM) fauzanalfi: thanks dtsdwarak (9:23:18 PM) FrancJP: I'm Francisco from spain (9:23:36 PM) FrancJP: currently remo mentor, and doing my best at mozilla hispano (9:23:53 PM) FrancJP: I'm participating in some L10n projects (9:23:59 PM) FrancJP: inside the spanish community (9:24:29 PM) dtsdwarak: great :) (9:24:41 PM) dtsdwarak: Next up, gauthamraj (9:24:51 PM) dtsdwarak: and we'll make this quick (9:25:15 PM) dtsdwarak: seems like we're taking up too much on introductions than talking about the useful stuff (9:25:30 PM) gauthamraj: Gauthamraj from Erode , India . I am ReMo , currently leads Tamil L10N team and also spreading the mission of Mozilla through various events at schools , computer centers and mobile shops etc..Our tamil article is first to reach media on NeMo (9:26:02 PM) dtsdwarak: Great Gautham (9:26:04 PM) dtsdwarak: Sayak you ? (9:26:09 PM) Sayak: Hi, I'm Sayak Sarkar, ReMo from Pune, India. I'm also a localizer for the BN-IN locale for various FOSS Initiatives, including Mozilla. My latest l10n work for Mozilla being the Firefox & You Bengali Newsletter. (9:26:27 PM) dtsdwarak: awesome ! (9:26:37 PM) Sayak: :) (9:27:01 PM) kinshuk: Firefox & You Bengali newsletter sounds cool (9:27:02 PM) dtsdwarak: so, apart from the RLLs here, I'm Dwaraka Nath from Chennai India (9:27:03 PM) kinshuk: how to see ? (9:27:23 PM) Debloper: Kinshuk: nemocl (9:27:34 PM) Debloper: (Password) (9:27:36 PM) kinshuk: eh? (9:27:48 PM) kinshuk: i am on that doc.. i was asking baout the newsletter (9:27:56 PM) Debloper: Oh! (9:27:58 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: its yet to be released, I guess it'll be released sometime later this month (9:28:05 PM) dtsdwarak: Debloper vineel kinshuk syafiqmazli , quick intros ? (9:28:22 PM) dtsdwarak: adiphoenix5 ? (9:28:32 PM) kinshuk: hiu i am kinshuk from delhi, India. I am remo. occassionally help with l10n and primarily focus in building communities :) (9:28:43 PM) kinshuk: hi (9:28:55 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk: Great (9:29:10 PM) Sayak: hiu kinshuk ;-) (9:29:16 PM) kinshuk: :D (9:29:22 PM) kinshuk: elo (9:29:47 PM) vineel: Hi all, I am Vineel, Mozilla rep from India :) (9:29:56 PM) fauzanalfi: hi (9:30:00 PM) dtsdwarak: that was too modest vineel ! (9:30:06 PM) dtsdwarak: ;) (9:30:26 PM) syafiqmazli: Hi everyone, i'm syafiqmazli. Mozilla reps from Malaysia :) (9:32:24 PM) dtsdwarak: And I want someone here to take notes for the meeting (9:32:27 PM) dtsdwarak: volunteers ? (9:32:27 PM) kinshuk: next ? (9:32:47 PM) dtsdwarak: fill up the https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 as and when things are discussed (9:33:01 PM) dtsdwarak: gauthamraj, will you be okay in doing it ? (9:34:03 PM) dtsdwarak: kinshuk, perhaps you then ? (9:34:20 PM) dtsdwarak: everyone seems idle here (9:34:38 PM) kinshuk: i am akshully eating dinner side by side, so wont be able to manage for another 20 mins or so (9:35:14 PM) Debloper: Hi, I'm Soumya Deb - FOSS enthusiast from India & a mozilla rep. Please carry on :) (9:35:26 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay Chill kinshuk, I'll manage (9:35:28 PM) dtsdwarak: :) (9:35:28 PM) gauthamraj: dwarak , there may be a power cut in another 10 mins here . So , can't follow the things :( (9:35:39 PM) kinshuk: Debloper, pls2write minutes :D (9:35:40 PM) dtsdwarak: that's okay gauthamraj (9:35:56 PM) *Debloper is doing an open heart surgery on his workstation (9:36:27 PM) dtsdwarak: RLLs, you've done some l10n work in the past. (9:36:46 PM) Sayak: Debloper: since when did you become a surgeon? o.O (9:36:48 PM) dtsdwarak: Please report what problems you have faced (9:37:36 PM) dtsdwarak: if something did turn up amazing, be proud to type that too ! (9:37:59 PM) dtsdwarak: I want some feedback on the general l10n works, problems you faced until now in NeMo (9:38:02 PM) Debloper: Sayak, "technically" since always. (9:38:09 PM) kinshuk: erm whats RLL ? (9:38:10 PM) kinshuk: :/ (9:38:18 PM) dtsdwarak: RLL - Regional Localization Leader (9:38:28 PM) dtsdwarak: people incharge of l10n for a language (9:38:32 PM) Debloper: Regional l10n leader (9:38:36 PM) FrancJP: dtsdwarak: I think that the main problem is to keep updated when a new article is ready to be translated (9:38:49 PM) FrancJP: I meant, know when the article is up on the wiki (9:38:57 PM) FrancJP: and start localizing (9:39:01 PM) kinshuk: yes that is a problem (9:39:04 PM) bobreyes: Here in the Philippines, we are currently finishing the Firefox Aurora translation to Tagalog (http://a.maimult.ro/lmo/project.php?l=tl-PH&p=28) (9:39:14 PM) Debloper: ^ interesting point. (9:39:16 PM) kinshuk: and so is maintaining different language versions of the doc too (9:39:27 PM) Sayak: [9]https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ODzp31zAUN0cBpZWJbA2s_k7SD1IzdEu CY2Qo3sMlXs/edit?pli=1# (9:39:38 PM) Sayak: Just got this one in the morning (9:39:39 PM) FrancJP: secondly, it might help not so first person aproach of the articles (9:39:52 PM) FrancJP: it could be more friendly for readers (9:39:59 PM) bobreyes: Translation of Firefox Aurora to 3 other Philippine language/dialects are being carried out ... all starting at the Narro (9:40:01 PM) fauzanalfi: Technical problem in my L10n experiences: lots of bugs in Narro (9:40:09 PM) Debloper: Kinshuk: too manual - think that can be automated? (9:40:20 PM) Sayak: Md. Ashickur Rahman one of the l10n guys for Bengali did a great job on localizing the agenda for NeMo to Bengali (9:40:33 PM) FrancJP: but could be a little be more easy to communicate if the article would be more neutral (9:40:42 PM) Sayak: I just finished applying some last minute touches to it (9:40:43 PM) Sayak: :D (9:41:11 PM) dtsdwarak: can you elaborate a little FrancJP ? (9:41:13 PM) kinshuk: Debloper, yes definitely (9:41:15 PM) FrancJP: and finally, I think that it might help to open more to other "writers", to let them write in their language (9:41:37 PM) FrancJP: and then translate in english (9:41:43 PM) Sayak: FrancJP: +1 (9:41:48 PM) kinshuk: makes sense (9:41:50 PM) kinshuk: +1 (9:41:50 PM) fauzanalfi: +1 (9:41:51 PM) FrancJP: dtsdwarak: ellaborate what?? (9:41:56 PM) FrancJP: the neutral approach?? (9:41:59 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah (9:42:01 PM) kinshuk: in essence, no language gets a pririty (9:42:04 PM) kinshuk: priority (9:42:39 PM) FrancJP: yep... I think that the articles that has been more difficult to translate were the ones that starts with: When I was helping my dad (9:42:52 PM) dtsdwarak: lol :D (9:42:59 PM) FrancJP: and the others with a "private conversation" (9:43:06 PM) FrancJP: I can understand (9:43:07 PM) fauzanalfi: next? (9:43:23 PM) FrancJP: and I can easily make it on our own approach (9:43:26 PM) fauzanalfi: I agree with that (9:43:35 PM) dtsdwarak: Point was, I intended to make it more interactive (9:43:45 PM) FrancJP: but I think that those articles also can reach the same kind of people (9:44:00 PM) FrancJP: if they weren't so "personal" approach (9:44:10 PM) FrancJP: I meant, they are funny (9:44:28 PM) FrancJP: but we can make it formal without sounds "clowny" (9:44:44 PM) FrancJP: and I don't want to be rude... my intention is to put my thoughts here (9:44:58 PM) dtsdwarak: no problem FrancJP. (9:45:00 PM) FrancJP: and sometimes the tone in IRC can be misunderstood (9:45:05 PM) syafiqmazli: : i have question here, i didnt see locale for ms in access document from wiki NeMo (9:45:20 PM) fauzanalfi: In my opinion, those article is a little bit harder to localize becasue we must localize 'its interactivity' based on our language (9:45:21 PM) FrancJP: I like it, and it make senses when you read it in english fauzanalfi FrancJP (9:45:45 PM) dtsdwarak: ya fauzanalfi and FrancJP (9:45:48 PM) dtsdwarak: I get that (9:45:49 PM) FrancJP: but som cultures could face a problem when they reach that "so first person" interaction (9:46:05 PM) FrancJP: is not a problem in latin culture (9:46:25 PM) FrancJP: but it can be more harsh to translate and transmit the same "funny" tone intention (9:46:33 PM) dtsdwarak: We definitely don't want to have that problem. Writers are encouraged to change the tone as long as it conveys the meaning correctly (9:46:56 PM) FrancJP: well... in spanish articles we done that ;) (9:47:05 PM) dtsdwarak: If yeah (9:47:11 PM) dtsdwarak: that works, we can do (9:47:24 PM) FrancJP: we changed the tone a little bit... but keeping the "good mood" ;) (9:47:32 PM) dtsdwarak: that works yeah ! (9:47:51 PM) dtsdwarak: And, we'll see what we can do about the neutral approach yeah ! great point FrancJP ! (9:47:55 PM) kinshuk: since these articles are being written for the press, shouldnt they be i third person, neutral perspective ? (9:47:56 PM) FrancJP: and that's basically my point of view regarding the new project (9:47:57 PM) adiphoenix5 left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (9:48:22 PM) dtsdwarak: and someone was telling about UI of NeMo (9:48:30 PM) dtsdwarak: in accessing the document from Wiki (9:48:36 PM) FrancJP: I think is very easy to collaborate, and to localise, because the articles are very friendly approach, they aren't technichals (only the browser ID) (9:48:56 PM) FrancJP: yeah, could be me... I said in an email, I think (9:49:11 PM) FrancJP: that could be difficult to reach those articles if you don't know the project (9:49:18 PM) Sayak: dtsdwarak: the wiki UI may be good enough for now, but what happens when we add more locales to the Project (9:49:22 PM) Sayak: ? (9:49:32 PM) kinshuk: i disagree (9:49:46 PM) kinshuk: the wiki UI is "technically" functional, but counter-productive (9:50:05 PM) kinshuk: because it assumes the content writer/localiser also understands how to work with wiki (9:50:11 PM) kinshuk: which is mostly not the case (9:50:29 PM) kinshuk: we need to have a localisation system in place, something like pootle (9:50:42 PM) kinshuk: which will have multiple benefits: (9:50:47 PM) kinshuk: 1. ease of localisation (9:50:59 PM) kinshuk: 2. easier management of different languyage versions of the article (9:51:08 PM) kinshuk: 3. notification of new articles (9:51:20 PM) kinshuk: 4. managing addition of newer language projects in future (9:51:58 PM) dtsdwarak: But, can we implement all that with the existing infrastructure in place kinshuk, I mean just the Wiki alone. Not possible I guess (9:52:04 PM) kinshuk: erm.. hello ? (9:52:16 PM) kinshuk: these things can be done with the wiki (9:52:23 PM) kinshuk: what is the current infrastructure ? (9:52:29 PM) kinshuk: do we have hosting available ? (9:52:30 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: something Like Pootle but not Pootle please, pootle's domain is somehat different (9:52:31 PM) dtsdwarak: I meant Wiki only (9:53:00 PM) dtsdwarak: It would take us some more time to shift to a domain (9:53:02 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, pootle was the first thing that i could think of, since i have been using it at many projects :D (9:53:03 PM) fauzanalfi: we need a Dashboard for NeMo (9:53:09 PM) kinshuk: but it works for strings not docs (9:53:12 PM) kinshuk: we need something for docs (9:53:16 PM) dtsdwarak: fauzanalfi: +1 (9:53:32 PM) syafiqmazli: I think the good infra is using wiki or simple way by etherpad and created many page for articles (9:53:33 PM) Sayak: do we need to go into dev phase for this?? (9:53:40 PM) fauzanalfi: something that have done with ReMo (9:53:54 PM) fauzanalfi: moving from wiki to a standalone Dashboard (9:53:57 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, wiki will always invovle the manual editing and refactoriung of the wiki regularly (9:54:05 PM) Sayak: maybe create a new portal for NeMo with a localization dashboard (9:54:06 PM) adiphoenix5 [Dell@401D5EBD.BACD8FB4.8B4AB1DB.IP] entered the room. (9:54:19 PM) Sayak: something like translatewiki? (9:54:19 PM) kinshuk: too chaotic and too much of maintaince overhead (9:54:32 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1 (9:54:32 PM) kinshuk: will need to see that (9:54:46 PM) fauzanalfi: but we need that I think (9:54:58 PM) kinshuk: which is ? (9:55:03 PM) Sayak: everytime someone adds a new name to the project, tables need to be re-aligned (9:55:07 PM) fauzanalfi: mostly for articles (9:55:18 PM) Sayak: same for articles i guess (9:55:49 PM) kinshuk: i am confused (9:55:57 PM) kinshuk: fauzanalfi, what solution are you suggesting ? (9:56:30 PM) fauzanalfi: build a standalone dashboard, but we need more time on developing it (9:56:50 PM) fauzanalfi: or (9:56:51 PM) kinshuk: developing it is like reinventing the wheel (9:57:02 PM) kinshuk: i like what i see at translatewiki (9:57:05 PM) bobreyes: I guess for the time being, there should be a central repository where one can submit / upload his/her translation of an article in English (9:57:08 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, are you already using it someplace ? (9:57:10 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: thats true (9:57:18 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: using what? (9:57:32 PM) Sayak: SUMO has a similar dashboard (9:57:32 PM) fauzanalfi: we're relayout the wiki (9:57:35 PM) kinshuk: using translatewiki ? (9:57:35 PM) syafiqmazli: +1 bobreyes, github/bitbucket? (9:57:44 PM) bobreyes: Translators will just have to email ... whoever is maintaining the repository (9:57:47 PM) Sayak: yup, I've worked with it (9:57:59 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay. having something to manage the language translations and other notifications is too good. Kinshuk and others, we'll have to see what we can do about that via emails (9:58:08 PM) fauzanalfi: ok (9:58:09 PM) kinshuk: okay (9:58:13 PM) Sayak: okk (9:58:17 PM) dtsdwarak: I'll start a thread (9:58:25 PM) gauthamraj: okay (9:58:36 PM) dtsdwarak: now, there has been a approach (9:58:47 PM) dtsdwarak: to have NeMo homepages translated to seperate languages (9:59:05 PM) dtsdwarak: anyways to make the NeMo homepage language selection? (9:59:14 PM) dtsdwarak: I think you can understand what I mean (9:59:30 PM) kinshuk: that would depend on how we set up our infrastructure :D (9:59:35 PM) dtsdwarak: gauthamraj and faisal translated NeMo homepages to tamil and hindi (9:59:37 PM) dtsdwarak: like that (9:59:50 PM) gauthamraj: thanq dwarak (10:00:11 PM) dtsdwarak: kinshuk: right now we have to work with Wiki only. But, in the long run, we're obviously gonna need a seperate domain or hosting (10:00:42 PM) kinshuk: mm (10:01:03 PM) kinshuk: so with the wiki you want to autoset the user's nemo wiki homepage ? (10:01:16 PM) dtsdwarak: if there's someway we can manage the language options in Wiki for now, it would be great (10:01:34 PM) dtsdwarak: like in Gmail sign in page, there is an option to change the language the page is being viewed in (10:01:36 PM) dtsdwarak: something like that (10:02:01 PM) dtsdwarak: possible? guys thoughts ? (10:02:16 PM) Sayak: just put in language links (10:02:18 PM) Sayak: simple (10:02:26 PM) FrancJP: I think the main thing is to ease the acces to users to the page (10:02:26 PM) kinshuk: i think that can be done with the mediawiki account preferences (10:02:29 PM) Sayak: at the home page itself (10:02:30 PM) kinshuk: set your default language (10:02:39 PM) FrancJP: if there is something that could help people choice the language (10:02:51 PM) FrancJP: I think it will be ok whatever solution you can use on it (10:03:11 PM) Sayak: put in a block in the main page with links to each language (10:03:13 PM) kinshuk: there is a language selection at https://wiki.mozilla.org/Special:Preferences (10:03:30 PM) kinshuk: but that will change the language of all the wiki (10:03:43 PM) kinshuk: and if the page is not availble in that language, it should fall back to english, i guess (10:04:03 PM) dtsdwarak: but, it is for the user of Wiki, not the "Viewer" of Wiki (10:04:05 PM) dtsdwarak: ? (10:04:11 PM) kinshuk: yes (10:04:24 PM) kinshuk: viewer will see in whatever is the default language of the wiki (10:04:37 PM) kinshuk: in that case what sayak says makes mst sense (10:04:50 PM) Sayak: :D (10:04:57 PM) dtsdwarak: What we need is the person should be able to view in whatever language he wishes to, even if he doesn't understand a word of it (10:05:07 PM) kinshuk: the way we did it on document foudnation http://wiki.documentfoundation.org/ (10:05:09 PM) dtsdwarak: Gmail, like i said (10:05:54 PM) syafiqmazli left the room (quit: Ping timeout). (10:06:02 PM) kinshuk: there might be a wiki addon for that, but then we dont control the mozilla wiki (10:06:08 PM) kinshuk: so i dont think we will be able to do that (10:06:16 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah something like Wikipedia would be great (10:06:22 PM) dtsdwarak: to choose the language from side bar (10:06:34 PM) fauzanalfi: +1 dtsdwarak (10:06:40 PM) gauthamraj: cool (10:07:03 PM) dtsdwarak: now, going further (10:07:16 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll see about this topic via email thread too (10:07:28 PM) dtsdwarak: and we need a mode of communication (10:07:33 PM) dtsdwarak: thoughts ? (10:07:52 PM) kinshuk: mailing list and this channel should be good enough (10:07:57 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah. (10:07:59 PM) FrancJP: +1 (10:08:04 PM) Sayak: just put in this line somewhere: English ????? ????? ????? (10:08:06 PM) FrancJP: even more (10:08:09 PM) Sayak: done (10:08:16 PM) FrancJP: I think that the remo general list is fair enough (10:08:17 PM) *kinshuk sees squares (10:08:20 PM) gauthamraj: any updates on nemo mailing list ? (10:08:26 PM) Sayak: language problems solved with links (10:08:29 PM) FrancJP: we don't have too much mailings at this moment (10:08:30 PM) dtsdwarak: We've applied for a mailing list and Mozilla has approved it (10:08:34 PM) kinshuk: no this will be nise and irelevant in the remo general list (10:08:41 PM) Sayak: Yaayy!! :) (10:08:44 PM) kinshuk: yay (10:08:47 PM) gauthamraj: yay :) (10:08:48 PM) fauzanalfi: yeah! (10:08:52 PM) kinshuk: they deleted a mailing list request i submitted D (10:09:00 PM) dtsdwarak: but, it is taking time to get set up (10:09:04 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: :P (10:09:06 PM) kinshuk: :/ (10:09:20 PM) kinshuk: inorite (10:09:24 PM) kinshuk: happens with me all the time :D (10:09:27 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk ;-) (10:09:28 PM) fauzanalfi: so, what's the e-mail for our new mailing list? fauzanalfi FrancJP (10:09:38 PM) dtsdwarak: no idea fauzanalfi (10:10:03 PM) dtsdwarak: We're just setting it up (10:10:10 PM) dtsdwarak: It'll take some more time to get functiona (10:10:13 PM) dtsdwarak: functional (10:10:16 PM) fauzanalfi: hmm... (10:10:25 PM) kinshuk: hopefully [12]nemo@lists.mozilla.org (10:10:27 PM) dtsdwarak: It will be a public reps-comms-something @mozilla (10:10:35 PM) kinshuk: ah (10:10:56 PM) fauzanalfi: reps-nemo? (10:11:00 PM) dtsdwarak: We didn't want the mailing list to stop with just NeMo. rather a channel of comms for future comms reps project too (10:11:08 PM) Sayak: [13]nemo@list.mozilla.org would ave been better!! -/ (10:11:14 PM) kinshuk: its short and sweet :P (10:11:16 PM) fauzanalfi: +1 Sayak (10:11:19 PM) fauzanalfi: hha (10:11:21 PM) kinshuk: but what dts says makes sense too (10:11:31 PM) gauthamraj: dwarak +1 (10:11:50 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: Ahh!! The Bitter truth (10:12:03 PM) kinshuk: the bitter the better :P (10:12:18 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, i had a question (10:12:21 PM) dtsdwarak: just say "Great" for now. But, we'll have to wait for sometime to get that (10:12:24 PM) dtsdwarak: ya kinshuk (10:12:30 PM) kinshuk: whya re we not on 'get involved' page yet ? (10:12:52 PM) kinshuk: there is no external communication for the program (10:13:00 PM) kinshuk: which might bring in potential contributors (10:13:01 PM) Sayak: why not? (10:13:05 PM) dtsdwarak: Honestly kinshuk, this was discussed in the first ever NeMo kickoff meeting (10:13:13 PM) Sayak: we need more contributors (10:13:17 PM) gauthamraj: good question kinshuk (10:13:23 PM) kinshuk: my bad, i will check its minutes :) (10:13:48 PM) Sayak: even i forgot!! :-/ (10:13:54 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/4? (10:13:57 PM) dtsdwarak: was its agenda (10:14:08 PM) dtsdwarak: check ideas and project promotion (10:14:41 PM) kinshuk: yes (10:14:46 PM) kinshuk: so it was approved right ? (10:14:51 PM) kinshuk: still not implemented ? (10:15:15 PM) Sayak: why has it not been implemented? (10:15:21 PM) dtsdwarak: there was no constructive discussion about that (10:15:24 PM) dtsdwarak: if I remember (10:15:35 PM) Sayak: need to do that asap (10:15:36 PM) dtsdwarak: back then, it was too too young- the Nemo was too young i mean (10:15:37 PM) fauzanalfi: sorry everyone, I must off from meeting because tomorrow I must get up early. I will see the meeting transcript if it's available on Etherpad (10:15:47 PM) dtsdwarak: okay fauzanalfi (10:15:52 PM) dtsdwarak: I'll mail you the notes (10:15:54 PM) fauzanalfi: bye everyone! (10:16:02 PM) fauzanalfi: thanks dtsdwarak! :) (10:16:07 PM) fauzanalfi left the room (quit: Quit: fauzanalfi). (10:16:15 PM) dtsdwarak: so, there wasn't any good discussion about that (10:16:15 PM) kinshuk: its not even here https://wiki.mozilla.org/ReMo/SIGs/Communications (10:16:16 PM) bobreyes: thanks! bye (10:16:34 PM) dtsdwarak: but now we may add (10:16:38 PM) kinshuk: even if its too early to be on /contribute, it should be in the comms rep sig (10:16:38 PM) dtsdwarak: or atleast ask (10:16:39 PM) bobreyes left the room (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 16.0a2/20120825042008]). (10:17:45 PM) dtsdwarak: there was even a thought of integrating this with student reps programme to give them an opportunity to contribute to Mozilla (10:17:56 PM) dtsdwarak: it takes no great effort for NeMo (10:17:56 PM) kinshuk: but as we all know (10:18:03 PM) kinshuk: that program is right now snafu (10:18:10 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah (10:18:18 PM) gauthamraj: yeah :( (10:18:32 PM) Sayak: Its quite sad actually.. Student reps also needs to be revived (10:18:53 PM) kinshuk: i propose a BOF on NeMo and StuReps at the next MozCamp :D (10:18:53 PM) dtsdwarak: So, back to the agenda then (10:19:12 PM) dtsdwarak: IRC (10:19:20 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1 (10:19:31 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk:+1111111111 (10:19:41 PM) dtsdwarak: I would personally want each one of us to be at #NeMo whenever we're online at IRC (10:19:58 PM) gauthamraj: Sure , will do (10:20:23 PM) kinshuk: for me irc is mroe addictive than facebook so i usually skip on t altogether when working (10:20:28 PM) kinshuk: but i will try to be here more often (10:20:58 PM) dtsdwarak: I think its a little too early for Facebook or am I wrong ? (10:21:07 PM) kinshuk: in what sense ? (10:21:26 PM) Sayak: y so? (10:21:27 PM) dtsdwarak: to form a facebook page (10:21:30 PM) dtsdwarak: i mean (10:21:39 PM) dtsdwarak: groups page (10:21:51 PM) Sayak: we need more people, and fb is a very good way of getting that (10:22:07 PM) kinshuk: not a page, maybe a group (10:22:14 PM) kinshuk: but then what will we do there ? (10:22:31 PM) kinshuk: it cant help with the l10n part, so ppl will need to be guided from there (10:23:13 PM) dtsdwarak: that's the point (10:23:21 PM) Sayak: page may help (10:23:23 PM) gauthamraj: Actually , I am recruiting many through facebook. So , we can go for facebook page i guess (10:23:25 PM) Sayak: instead of a group (10:23:33 PM) Sayak: gauthamraj: +1 (10:23:33 PM) gauthamraj: sayak +1 (10:23:33 PM) dtsdwarak: Even if its a page, it'll reflect in their timeline (10:23:36 PM) dtsdwarak: gaining attention (10:23:42 PM) gauthamraj: yeah (10:23:45 PM) dtsdwarak: people never check up groups for notifications (10:23:49 PM) Sayak: thats the point (10:24:04 PM) gauthamraj: we can share our updates there as well (10:24:39 PM) dtsdwarak: So, okay. (10:24:55 PM) kinshuk: with the pge communication is mostly one-way (10:25:09 PM) kinshuk: which is why i try and avoid it for communities (10:25:26 PM) kinshuk: communities should have inherently two-way communications (10:25:56 PM) dtsdwarak: might I say that we need both a page and a group ? (10:26:09 PM) kinshuk: no (10:26:19 PM) Sayak: what exactly are you suggesting them, an alias account?? (10:27:15 PM) kinshuk: a group is what i'd prefer (10:27:25 PM) kinshuk: but even then it doesnt really solve anything for us (10:27:39 PM) dtsdwarak: exactly kinshuk (10:27:45 PM) kinshuk: the new people that join that group will need to be pushed/guided/forwarded to the project (10:27:52 PM) kinshuk: what is more important is (10:27:58 PM) kinshuk: to make it clear how to participate in the program (10:28:08 PM) gauthamraj: yes kinshuk.. (10:28:12 PM) Sayak left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client). (10:28:14 PM) dtsdwarak: We're too young for a Facebook given that, there aren't many active contributors (10:28:36 PM) dtsdwarak: the purpose of creating that group might be lost (10:28:37 PM) kinshuk: i hear gauthamraj had troubles getting started, and i know that komal gandhi definitely did (10:28:47 PM) gauthamraj: may be we can do a blog post that will help newbie's to get started (10:29:08 PM) dtsdwarak: We'll better add that part to Wiki (10:29:15 PM) dtsdwarak: getting started with NeMo (10:29:16 PM) Sayak [Mibbit@6339B1A4.7052885A.650F25DA.IP] entered the room. (10:29:18 PM) kinshuk: yes it should be in the wiki (10:30:07 PM) dtsdwarak: Well, to the last part (10:30:12 PM) dtsdwarak: Community leads ! (10:30:25 PM) dtsdwarak: the people who would be leading the article generation (10:30:30 PM) dtsdwarak: or content creation process (10:30:31 PM) kinshuk: before that (10:30:38 PM) kinshuk: what is the moderation process (10:30:41 PM) kinshuk: for articles ? (10:30:59 PM) dtsdwarak: Ah (10:30:59 PM) dtsdwarak: yes (10:31:11 PM) dtsdwarak: That we've sent to the Mozilla PR for approval (10:31:15 PM) dtsdwarak: They're yet to approve (10:31:23 PM) dtsdwarak: But, I'll share what we sent (10:31:31 PM) dtsdwarak: give me a minute (10:32:06 PM) kinshuk: so articles submitted at etherpad go to mozilla pr, then come back with critique ? (10:32:11 PM) kinshuk: whats the usual turnaround time ? (10:33:14 PM) dtsdwarak: check the agenda page please (10:33:17 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/6 (10:35:00 PM) kinshuk: mm (10:35:06 PM) kinshuk: there should be some automation and deadlines (10:35:14 PM) kinshuk: there should be some automation and deadlinesotherwise the turnaround times will be huge (10:35:30 PM) kinshuk: what has been the average turnaround time for approved articles as yet ? (10:35:47 PM) gauthamraj: yeah..like our mailing list (10:36:23 PM) dtsdwarak: As such, it has only been a very little time given that myself, Sayak and others have worked on the content creation (10:36:38 PM) dtsdwarak: this approval method has not exactly been deployed yet (10:37:01 PM) kinshuk: hmm (10:37:08 PM) kinshuk: this process will be the downfall of the program (10:37:25 PM) kinshuk: its too time consuming and has too much maintainnce overheads at every step (10:37:55 PM) kinshuk: we need to automate it, make it fast and snazzy (10:38:00 PM) FrancJP: sorry guys, I have to leave... I still have issues with my mac, so I have to make "surgery" :S (10:38:02 PM) Debloper1 [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (10:38:10 PM) FrancJP: cheers... I will read the notes later (10:38:13 PM) FrancJP: or tomorro (10:38:14 PM) dtsdwarak: automate as in, what exactly kinshuk ? (10:38:20 PM) dtsdwarak: okay FrancJP (10:38:22 PM) FrancJP left the room (quit: Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.88.2 [Firefox 9.0a2/20111101042022]). (10:38:48 PM) kinshuk: i am assumin right now its a manual process of sharing attachemnts/urls (10:39:11 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Quit: Bye). (10:39:25 PM) Debloper1 left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (10:39:33 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (10:39:33 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (10:39:51 PM) dtsdwarak: Yeah. Right now. (10:40:04 PM) dtsdwarak: It is what we could do with Wiki (10:40:05 PM) kinshuk: that manual element should iudeally be not there (10:40:27 PM) adiphoenix5 left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (10:40:54 PM) kinshuk: mm (10:40:56 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1 (10:41:03 PM) kinshuk: another reason why we should move away from the wiki (10:41:11 PM) gauthamraj: yeah kinshuk (10:41:13 PM) kinshuk: time lags will kill the project (10:41:14 PM) Sayak: but the real problem is how do we automate it? (10:41:30 PM) kinshuk: give me some time, i will do necessary research and come with a solution (10:41:33 PM) kinshuk: hopefully by next sunday (10:41:40 PM) adiphoenix5 [Dell@401D5EBD.BACD8FB4.8B4AB1DB.IP] entered the room. (10:41:43 PM) Sayak: great!! :) (10:41:44 PM) gauthamraj: kinshuk:Great (10:42:00 PM) dtsdwarak: it was only to make that faster, we have a rule "Core Team can jump in and decide if the article can be approved if it exceeds a time frame" (10:42:07 PM) dtsdwarak: anyway, (10:42:25 PM) dtsdwarak: we'll see how best we can eliminate the problem as well (10:42:41 PM) dtsdwarak: there are too much stuff to discuss via email (10:43:04 PM) dtsdwarak: please ram your brains and type in your thoughts when a thread is being opened (10:43:18 PM) Sayak: we need a face to face meeting with everyone (10:43:37 PM) dtsdwarak desperately wants too (10:43:47 PM) gauthamraj: Yeah but how ? (10:44:17 PM) kinshuk: moilla carnival ya fir mozcamp :D (10:44:24 PM) Sayak: we can have a meting during MozCamp Asia, or MozCarnival Pune (10:44:25 PM) kinshuk: ab smajhe mozcamp india ka rationale (10:44:26 PM) Sayak: :D (10:44:27 PM) kinshuk: XD (10:44:41 PM) kinshuk: i wonder how many will be nominated for mozcamp asia (10:44:41 PM) dtsdwarak: okay guys, I don't want to hold you on for long (10:44:53 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: me too (10:44:54 PM) dtsdwarak: Community Leads (10:44:58 PM) dtsdwarak: ! (10:45:13 PM) dtsdwarak: you know what that means by now, I hope (10:45:17 PM) Sayak: do we need to nominate ourselves or do we need to nominate others? (10:45:32 PM) Sayak: its confusing (10:45:34 PM) kinshuk: i nominated dtsdwarak for india lead (10:45:39 PM) kinshuk: its his baby afterall :D (10:45:41 PM) kinshuk: ;) (10:45:43 PM) dtsdwarak: the nominations are here : https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/NeMo-CommunityLeads (10:45:53 PM) Sayak: dtsdwarak: +1 (10:46:06 PM) gauthamraj: yeah (10:46:09 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: +1 (10:46:11 PM) dtsdwarak: I appreciate that kinshuk, but honest suggestions. (10:46:18 PM) kinshuk: vote in wiki (10:46:21 PM) dtsdwarak: Whatever you think guys (10:46:24 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, thats what makes it honest too (10:46:41 PM) kinshuk: indian fella starts a prooject, least we can do is make him lead india :) (10:46:48 PM) kinshuk: you already proved your initiative (10:46:51 PM) Sayak: +! (10:46:53 PM) Sayak: +1 (10:46:57 PM) kinshuk: and committment to the program (10:46:59 PM) gauthamraj: Yeah (10:47:15 PM) dtsdwarak: I shall obviously be there to help out. But, if someone wants to lead it, why not give him a chance ? (10:48:03 PM) gauthamraj: You deserve it dwarak (10:48:07 PM) dtsdwarak: forget India alone. We want the content creation process to be continous (10:48:14 PM) dtsdwarak: without, any disruptions (10:48:17 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (10:48:27 PM) kinshuk: arre lets put this down to a vote (10:48:31 PM) kinshuk: i vote for dtsdwarak (10:48:48 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (10:48:48 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (10:48:58 PM) Sayak: dtsdwarak: +1 (10:49:16 PM) gauthamraj: I am with Dwarak (10:49:34 PM) kinshuk: Debloper, vote kar de (10:49:57 PM) Sayak: Debloper: still in surgery? (10:50:00 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, you already won the vote btw (10:50:07 PM) Debloper: kinshuk: got dc... hang on.. (about what?) (10:50:11 PM) kinshuk: yes, Debloper be doing open kidney surgery now (10:50:19 PM) Debloper: Sayak: see tweets ;) (10:50:25 PM) Sayak: but on whom?? (10:50:46 PM) dtsdwarak: guys, its okay... we'll look at other nominees as well (10:50:51 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (10:51:00 PM) kinshuk: ye bas tweet dikhane aaya tha ? (10:51:04 PM) Sayak: le me gone to check tweets* (10:51:05 PM) dtsdwarak: and if you've got any suggestions, put them down please (10:51:22 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (10:51:22 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (10:51:46 PM) dtsdwarak: even if you don't have anything in mind for now, (10:51:54 PM) dtsdwarak: please make sure to add them to the link here (10:52:03 PM) Sayak: sure (10:52:12 PM) gauthamraj: fine (10:52:13 PM) dtsdwarak: do make a note of this link somewhere (10:52:18 PM) dtsdwarak: https://press.etherpad.mozilla.org/NeMo-CommunityLeads (10:52:47 PM) dtsdwarak: Well, so any random thoughts before we disperse ? (10:52:51 PM) Sayak: me go and see Debloper tweeting about lift offs and Saurabh sharing half eaten Pizzas.. :s (10:52:52 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Connection reset by peer). (10:53:24 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (10:53:24 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (10:53:26 PM) Sayak: could we please share some Wiki editing guidelines and manuals for all (10:53:37 PM) kinshuk: that should be part of getting started (10:53:49 PM) Sayak: people ask the same questions again and again (10:53:49 PM) kinshuk: chanserv pls to kick Debloper the nuisance (10:53:50 PM) Debloper: excuse me guys... :-/ (10:54:05 PM) dtsdwarak: getting started. yes. (10:54:07 PM) dtsdwarak: noted (10:54:22 PM) *Debloper is having network issues... (10:54:53 PM) kinshuk kicks at Debloper (10:54:58 PM) gauthamraj: what about some posters and banners for nemo? (10:55:04 PM) dtsdwarak: great gauthamraj (10:55:11 PM) mode (+o dtsdwarak) by Debloper (10:55:13 PM) Sayak: and badges too!! (10:55:25 PM) gauthamraj: sayak +1 (10:55:30 PM) Sayak: both real ones and digital ones (10:55:35 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 Sayak (10:55:40 PM) gauthamraj: yeah (10:55:58 PM) Sayak: we should start designing some swags too (10:56:17 PM) Sayak: that attracts a lot of peopl (10:56:25 PM) gauthamraj: Also , it will be nice if we add NeMo to our social media profiles (10:56:27 PM) dtsdwarak: there are a list of incentives here : https://wiki.mozilla.org/NeMo/Workflow (10:56:33 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 gauthamraj (10:56:36 PM) Sayak: whom we can imprison and make them work!! :P (10:56:56 PM) gauthamraj: sayak: :) (10:57:04 PM) Sayak: we should also have NeMo seesions during events (10:57:16 PM) dtsdwarak: but, putting all that in place in place, would take some time (10:57:23 PM) gauthamraj: when do these workflow will start to flow ? (10:57:32 PM) Sayak: make people rack-up their brains and get involved (10:57:32 PM) dtsdwarak: until then "Please be patient" :P (10:57:43 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 Sayak (10:57:43 PM) Sayak: gauthamraj: great question!! (10:57:48 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving.). (10:58:11 PM) kinshuk: i am planning to soon give a talk about "introducing nemo" (10:58:20 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (10:58:20 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (10:58:24 PM) kinshuk: will then contribute that presentation deck to marketing of nemo :D (10:58:27 PM) dtsdwarak: mera bhagwan kinshuk bhaiya ! (10:58:27 PM) gauthamraj: for d time being , why not a mozillians profile for some most active contributors? (10:58:36 PM) kinshuk: :D (10:58:41 PM) dtsdwarak: what do I owe you ? (10:58:51 PM) gauthamraj: Great Kinshuk (10:59:07 PM) Sayak: Could someone here please take a session on NeMo during MozCanival? (10:59:16 PM) Sayak: an interactive one (10:59:27 PM) kinshuk: if you pay for my tickets, i will (10:59:28 PM) kinshuk: XD (10:59:39 PM) gauthamraj: why not kinshuk? (10:59:44 PM) dtsdwarak: +1 gauthamraj (10:59:45 PM) Sayak: You have already filed for them, I've seen (10:59:46 PM) Sayak: ;) (11:00:01 PM) Sayak: yes! kinshuk would be perfect (11:00:22 PM) kinshuk: filing them and getting them are two different things brah :D (11:00:38 PM) dtsdwarak: Debloper will also do :) (11:00:41 PM) gauthamraj: only he will be perfect i guess..#really impressed (11:01:02 PM) Sayak: hmm, if my budget request gets approved, maybe You will (11:01:08 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: (11:01:39 PM) kinshuk: hope.start(); (11:01:40 PM) kinshuk: D: (11:01:46 PM) Debloper: heh, I'd love if kinshuk does it... (11:01:50 PM) Sayak: Debloper: is already doing some evil scientific research on some high end webmaking session!! (11:02:00 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, so says Debloper (11:02:00 PM) Debloper: ^^^ yeah :P (11:02:04 PM) kinshuk: dont trust him unless he does it (11:02:15 PM) Sayak: so kinshuk is the only option left (11:02:38 PM) Sayak: Debloper: :O is it so?? (11:02:57 PM) Debloper: Sayak: says the wise one... you must trust! (11:02:59 PM) Debloper: :P (11:03:07 PM) Sayak: :D (11:03:35 PM) Sayak: wow so I have two confirmed sessions for MozCarnival!! :D (11:03:46 PM) Sayak: now back to NeMo please (11:04:08 PM) Debloper: a little offtopic, but since most of the people who should be worried is here - take a look at this: [21]https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=481292675222514&set=a.25857 8117493972.71179.187626964589088&type=1&permPage=1 (11:04:11 PM) dtsdwarak: Guys, you are truly awesome :) Thanks to everyone of you. Especially Debloper and vineel (11:04:13 PM) kinshuk: confirmed gino jab confirmation aaye (11:04:22 PM) Debloper: one of my friend suggested it's not very good translation. (11:04:53 PM) Debloper: dtsdwarak: you go, boy! ;) (11:04:59 PM) kinshuk: its not good (11:05:02 PM) Sayak: it sounds wierd (11:05:20 PM) Sayak: the hindi sounds like a doordarshan cricket commentary (11:05:25 PM) Debloper: :P (11:05:33 PM) Debloper: ????? (11:05:36 PM) Debloper: :-\| (11:05:37 PM) Debloper: :-\| (11:05:42 PM) Debloper: :-\| (11:05:46 PM) Debloper: xD :P (11:06:07 PM) gauthamraj: Okay guys..I am leaving as well :) Hope to see you rocking and awesome guys at mozcarnival :) (11:06:13 PM) Sayak: sounds like something totally innapropriate to the context!! :P (11:06:15 PM) Debloper left the room (quit: Connection reset by peer). (11:06:24 PM) Sayak: bye gauthamraj (11:06:36 PM) Sayak: see you at MozCarnival (11:06:41 PM) kinshuk: i shall go now too (11:06:50 PM) Debloper [G33K@B95D54E7.24588541.E435C74A.IP] entered the room. (11:06:50 PM) mode (+qo Debloper Debloper) by ChanServ (11:06:53 PM) kinshuk: need to go to csgo :D (11:06:57 PM) kinshuk: go, go, go! (11:07:02 PM) gauthamraj: see you sayak (11:07:04 PM) Sayak: csgo? (11:07:18 PM) Sayak: :s (11:08:38 PM) kinshuk: sayak ? (11:08:40 PM) gauthamraj: btw , you guys coming for fb worldhack @ bangalore? (11:08:48 PM) kinshuk: not me (11:08:56 PM) Sayak: kinshuk: what csgo? (11:09:06 PM) Sayak: i'm planning to (11:09:08 PM) kinshuk: "what csgo" ? (11:09:08 PM) dtsdwarak: kinshuk, thanks yaar. FOSS.IN replied finally (11:09:13 PM) Sayak: not sure though (11:09:18 PM) kinshuk: what world do you live in Sayak (11:09:31 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, great. so did that work out ? (11:09:34 PM) Sayak: this world!! (11:09:41 PM) dtsdwarak: yeah (11:10:05 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, great (11:10:06 PM) Sayak: but i still dont get csgo!! :O (11:10:07 PM) dtsdwarak: they agreed for me to be a part of the conference (11:10:15 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, next jabbhi milega, chaped khayega (11:10:31 PM) kinshuk: dtsdwarak, awesome.. you can probably also represent mozilla there (11:10:41 PM) dtsdwarak: hopefully, yeah ! (11:10:43 PM) Sayak: :s :O (11:11:12 PM) kinshuk: Sayak, http://blog.counter-strike.net/index.php/2012/08/4472/ (11:11:21 PM) kinshuk: all work, no fun, makes Sayak a dull boy (11:11:40 PM) Sayak: Ooh CS!! (11:11:46 PM) Sayak: tell that na (11:11:51 PM) kinshuk: csgo (11:11:53 PM) kinshuk: bola tha na (11:11:56 PM) kinshuk: cs = cs1.6 (11:12:08 PM) kinshuk: css = cascading stylesheets OR counterstriek source (11:12:16 PM) kinshuk: csgo = counterstrike: global offensive (11:12:17 PM) Sayak: heheh (11:12:39 PM) kinshuk: if you have $15 ready to invest in a game, get csgo (11:12:41 PM) Sayak: I haven't played a single game since i came to pune (11:12:49 PM) Sayak: :( (11:13:06 PM) Sayak: My PC's rooting back home!! phew* (11:13:12 PM) Sayak: *rotting (11:13:29 PM) dtsdwarak: Okay guys. I gotta leave. Cya soon :) (11:13:31 PM) dtsdwarak: bye (11:13:37 PM) Sayak: bye dtsdwarak (11:13:38 PM) Sayak: :) (11:13:47 PM) vineel: Thanks for the meeting and bye all! :) (11:13:52 PM) dtsdwarak: bye vineel (11:14:00 PM) gauthamraj: bye vineel (11:14:12 PM) Sayak: bye vineel (11:14:14 PM) Sayak: :) (11:14:41 PM) Sayak: gauthamraj: would you be interested in conducting a session during MozCarnival? Links: 9. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ODzp31zAUN0cBpZWJbA2s_k7SD1IzdEuCY2Qo3sMlXs/edit?pli=1 12. mailto:nemo@lists.mozilla.org 13. mailto:nemo@list.mozilla.org 21. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=481292675222514&set=a.258578117493972.71179.187626964589088&type=1&permPage=1

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