SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2012-04-17

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

  • IanN to arrange with Jeff to send a tee-shirt or something to Serge (FotFT).
    • No response from Serge to email, will try contacting on IRC.

OPEN

CLOSED

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • TBD

Release Train

  • 2.9b3 shipped April 14, including a major MailNews dataloss bugfix.

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • 2.8 had ~X ADU by last Tuesday and 2.8 has had ~Y downloads so far.
    • Of the released versions, as of last Tuesday, we have A% on 2.0, B% on 2.1-2.3, C% on 2.4, D% on 2.5, E% on 2.6, F% on 2.7 and G% on 2.8. So, in the last two weeks, ~Hk (an additional I% of ADU) have migrated to 2.6 or above.
  • Still a large, but slowly decreasing, chunk of users on 2.0.x.
  • Figure out what is preventing people from moving from 2.0.x to the latest versions.
    • Some people cannot upgrade due to system requirements (OS version, processor capabilities etc.)
    • Perhaps putting resources into getting certain extensions working with SM 2.4 and above (those that won't work with SM 2.7 automatically due to compatible-by-default extensions).
    • Still need volunteers to look at what is keeping people at below 2.4. IanN could try knocking something up and send it round members lists for polishing but he's not on all the channels (mozillazine, etc) to post it to when finished.
    • Are some Linux distributions are still stuck on 2.0? We have data on OSes and OS versions in the raw data in the Mozilla metrics.
    • metrics.mozilla.org now provides us a breakdown of versions against OS.
    • There seems to be a very small number of 2.0.x users on OSes not supported by later versions. We even have some users on windows 7 using 2.0x! Fortunately Windows 8 users are at least using 2.7.
    • Darwin 9.8 is last version with PPC support, so those people may stuck on old versions because of that.
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.8

open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (1) fixed (15)

  • One tracked 2.5 issue still open.
    • 2.1 through 2.7 have NOT included the ka (Kartvelian aka Georgian) locale. The last release with ka locale shipped was 2.0.14 and the ka l10n maintainers have not yet updated for changes in later SeaMonkey versions.
    • Callek now needs to morph bug 667147 into removing |ka| from our [current] automation entirely (all-locales). Callek will look at best locale to transition any ka users to.
      • Plan is to migrate ka users to en-US with a english dialog saying they are out of date, and a link to the all-locales page if there is a language they understand better. Current ADU of ka alone is 3-5 individuals, so low impact.~Callek
      • Callek and ewong are working on this and they should be able to get this done by the time 2.9 ships.
  • One regression issue noted for 2.8: bug 735946 Browser is not not focused when opening links from external applications. Fixed on 2.9+.

2.Next

  • TBD

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 21 new, 21 fixed, 26 triaged.

  • Good triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 24 review 9 super-review 0 ui-review 7 feedback

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

Callek

ewong

  • Fixed:
    • bug 722767 - Change buildbot configs to upload symbols to symbols1.dmz.phx1.mozilla.com
  • Needs Review:
    • bug 667327 - Data Manager Allows Passwords to Be Copied Without Input of Master Password
  • Working On:

IanN

InvisibleSmiley

KaiRo

mcsmurf

Misak

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Ratty

Ricardo

sgautherie

  • Fixed (or in-progress) SeaMonkey (related) bugs:
    • bug 645922 Remove js_TryJSON and JS_TryJSON
    • bug 728930 Move Mozconfigs into Source Tree
    • bug 736864 Port |Bug 736770 - --disable-updater packaging errors| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 740337 Port |Bug 678695 - Settings API| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 741068 "err is not defined" at "nsSuiteGlue.js line: 752"
    • bug 741215 Port |Bug 736519 - jssubloader files are not packaged properly| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 743677 Port |Bug 702639 - Kill excludeItemsIfParentHasAnnotation query option| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 744026 Port |Bug 743428 - make package fails on platforms where profiler is not available| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 732027 Port |Bug 575955 - Replace internal usage of old transactions shim, add a new toolkit test| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 732749 client.py: review SeaMonkey policy about which extension revisions are packaged
    • bug 739041 Port |Bug 482911 - [HTML5] Re-implement bookmarks.html parsing using the HTML5 parser| to SeaMonkey. (test_384370.js + 3 other failures)
    • bug 743692 Port |Bug 493557 - "Recent Tags" and "Recently Bookmarked" are flipped when smart bookmarks are updated| to SeaMonkey
  • Fixed Core bugs:
    • bug 621347 [SeaMonkey, WINNT 5.2, Debug] mochitests-1: intermittent "test_ws_basic_tests.html | Test timed out" (happened in mozilla2.0b9)
    • bug 637101 (Try to) Ensure screenshots on test timeouts are not taken too late
    • bug 739687 [SeaMonkey] test_classifier.html and test_classifier_worker.html fail
    • bug 740769 [Thunderbird, OSX 10.6] Intermittent "test_bug325418.js | test failed (with xpcshell return code: 0)" + "TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | undefined | 2 == true"
  • Fixed other projects bugs:
    • [Firefox] bug 741064 treeView.js: "function PTV__buildVisibleSection does not always return a value"
    • [Firefox] bug 741065 controller.js: "function PCDH_onDrop does not always return a value"
    • [Firefox] bug 741066 browserPlacesViews.js: 2 "function ... does not always return a value"

Stanimir

stefanh

tonymec

Any other business?

  • Geolocation
    • Geolocation now works out of the box. MoCo turned it on by default for all applications that build off mozilla-central.
    • For comm-beta all we need to do is (bug 494421) to add pref("geo.wifi.uri", "https://www.google.com/loc/json"); to browser-prefs.js. However we're not even sure we are legally allowed to ship with the URL in, we might need to actually put in a pref to disable that in newer builds.
    • No news to date. Callek will have to reach out to his MoCo legal contact again soonish.
  • Test failures
    • qawanted, especially on Linux and MacOSX specific issues: reproducing and reporting would already help.
    • Serge says that on Linux and MacOSX, he just needs someone to actually run the tests and report what they see (screen, console, etc). For example, there is a Mac test about Ctrl+W not working. This should be so trivial.
    • tonymec suggests that any enthusiastic user, even non-technical, should be able to do some testing (litmus?) and not be scared by technical language and such.
    • IanN suggests reaching out to the user community using the newsgroups and forums.
    • Serge to do a write up and send it to Ratty to propagate to the community.
      • Ratty is still waiting for Serge.
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