SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2009-12-15

« last meeting | index

SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes?

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. Contact at Google says: "We don't have a good estimate for when GLS will be opening up more broadly, but I will be sure to let you know when we take that step. Sorry that I can not be more specific at this time." - We can only wait right now.
    • KaiRo emailed Google again more than 8 weeks ago and again 5 weeks ago, no reply yet, even though the MoCo geolocation contact has poked the Google contact as well.
    • KaiRo will try to get this process restarted.
  • Ratty to draft out some messages to encourage extension authors to make their extensions compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0. Once the Council approves them, we can forward to AMO for dissemination. The messages should target two groups:
    • Existing SeaMonkey extensions that haven't been upgraded to 2.0.
    • Firefox and Thunderbird extension authors encouraging them to make their extensions compatible with SeaMonkey 2.0.
    • Ratty filed AMO bug 527919 for this and attached some drafts. Once the messages are approved, they should be forwarded to AMO and they will take care of sending these out to extension developers.

CLOSED

  • KaiRo to add to the known issues page additional items from the SeaMonkey 2.0 Final/Feedback section from the previous meeting. Somebody needs to go through the items and sort out what needs to be added.

SeaMonkey 2.0 Feedback

Only need to track unresolved items here - and we should find a way to deal with it for every item talked about in this section!

  • The new Password and Form Managers seem to be hard for people to grasp. There is an existing documentation bug, bug 463903 for form autocomplete.
  • Need for a form history editor to edit/delete incorrect entries. We can make use of an existing bug (bug 480734) to track a native Forms editor.
  • For some users cut&paste isn't working for some Windows 7 users. Specifically, nothing gets pasted (bug 525601.
    • This has been traced to the McAfee Site Advisor component of the McAfee Internet Security Suite. A regression range has been identified (2007110103/2007103102). This regression range corresponds to a similar cut and paste problem in Thunderbird 3.0a but not involving McAfee.
    • The McAfee techs would like a developer from the SeaMonkey side to assist them in tracking down the problem. Do we have someone with the required skillset? Perhaps Neil.

SeaMonkey 2.0.1

open blockers (1) blocker requests (0) fixed (116)

  • Fixed bugs are actually 138 when including the not-yet-disclosed security issues.
  • New language in this release: Italian
  • Should be released TODAY in sync with Firefox 3.5.6, currently scheduled for December 15.
    • Even though the SeaMonkey-specific fixes are only some smaller ones, the improved mailnews maturity and the core crash and security fixes are worth it for sure.
  • Blockers and nominations mostly were put off to 2.0.2.
  • Updates have been on the beta channel for a few days, no big problems reported.
  • Testday last week did not find any bad issues, though 10 bugs were reported by people on there.

SeaMonkey 2.0.2

open blockers (2) blocker requests (3) fixed (18)

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 59 new, 27 fixed, 67 triaged.

  • Back to resolving more bugs than we get reported.
  • We can do even more triaging, esp. when we start to look at trashing 1.x-only bugs as well (and see if any still happen on 2.x).

Major wanted/needed features:

2.0.x

  • bug 423281 Help updates.
    • Status/Progress?
  • bug 483282 Make sure normal SeaMonkey use doesn't pay a price for having venkman installed.
    • Needs at least a core patch landing for 1.9.1.7 bug 364864 nsICategoryManager::deleteCategoryEntry does not persist outside of component registration.
    • Progress/Status?
  • bug 471346 Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service. New patch needed.
    • New patch needed.

2.1

  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port [sgautherie]
    • Postponed until mcsmurf (or sgautherie) can resume work on it.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 410613 OpenSearch. helpwanted.
    • We need to check if OpenSearch can support all our existing functionality, for example the INTEPRETS section in Sherlock search plugins. Mnyromyr will check on that, and on how extensible the Firefox code is.
  • bug 449728 drag tabs between windows
    • unowned so far.
  • bug 498596 places bookmarks
    • unowned so far.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 1.9.1) Composer
    • Will look into that once KompoZer 0.8 is done.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer
    • Will look into that once KompoZer 0.8 are done.
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set
    • status/progress?
    • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug
    • Still needs quite a bit of work.
    • bug 522023 is working on improving the browser globe in task icons, etc..
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • unowned so far.
  • bug 521927 Make Search, Folder Location and Views widgets for MailNews customizable toolbars.
    • Status/Progress?

We also should take a look at the other items on wanted-seamonkey2.1+

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ajschult

Aqualon

asrail

biesi

Callek

IanN

  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Waiting approval for 1.9.1.x:
    • bug 525373 Make customizable toolbars play nicely with children with disabled attributes (toolkit)
    • bug 510920 Sync to breakpad revision 350 for breakpad fix 248, 10.5+ SDK compat
  • Waiting for reviews:
    • bug 439134 "Customize toolbars" window a bit too small on linux - cuts off the "Restore defaults" button.
    • bug 521927 Make Search, Folder Location and Views widgets for MailNews customizable toolbars.
  • Working on:
    • bug 515967 Add icons to addressbook menulist in Search Addresses.
    • bug 519133 Newsgroup list in Message Filters Dialog has blank entry and extra separator.
    • bug 529647 Make Search and Go buttons widgets for Browser customizable toolbars - waiting for review but new patch needed.

InvisibleSmiley

KaiRo

  • As always, my blog has more detailed status about my work.

mcsmurf

  • Helping out in the Mozillazine SeaMonkey Support forum ;)

Misak

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Ratty

sgautherie

  • Fixed (or in-progress) SeaMonkey bugs:
    • bug 497072 Remove locale-specific subdomains from SeaMonkey client-generated URLs
    • bug 521263 After bug 381269 landing, browser_sanitizer.js breaks browser_passwordmgrdlg.js
    • bug 524381 comm-1.9.1 version of debugQA should refer to 1.9.1 trees
    • bug 528806 Needs to package htmlpars.dll instead of gkparser.dll after bug 514665, in comm-central (apps)
    • bug 533176 Port |Bug 425001 - Tests for bug 400731, 431826 use timers, are fragile| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 534410 Update Windows packaging for remaining dll renamings by bug 514665, in SeaMonkey
    • bug 534528 Need to package msgAsyncPrompter.js after bug 338549
    • bug 533210 Port |changeset - 32527:5d22feabe471 // tests cleanup| to SeaMonkey
  • Fixed (MailNews) Core/... (but SM related) bugs:
    • bug 521293 Port |Bug 515777 - move css files, hiddenWindow.html to jar| to comm-central (apps)
    • bug 523820 Remove old MOZILLA_1_9_1_BRANCH ifdefs from comm-central code
  • And working on other areas... like
    • infrastructure to run tests
    • filing bugs for leaks in (TUnit) tests
    • doing a Windows comm-central-trunk SeaMonkey unit test build, filing bugs as needed; looking forward to an official build when enough new buildbot slaves can be enabled (bug 464325 follow-ups).

Standard8

stefanh

wladow

Any other business?

  • Bugzilla has 4xp as keyword for regressions from Netscape 4 to Mozilla Suite. Is a new keyword for parity bugs between SM1 and SM2 helpful? Hbbb 22:44, 14 December 2009 (UTC)
  • ?