SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2011-11-15

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: 15 November, 2011, 13:00 UTC
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
• Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
  • Please note A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

• IanN to write the "Friends of the Fish Tank" F.A.Q.

CLOSED

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

(see 2011-11-01 status meeting notes for details)

• "What Happened?"
  • One XServe that hosts "Parallels" in Mozilla died, taking down with it all the data it housed. (There were two problems to appear here)

• "What does this mean for our Release"
  • We missed one planned beta because of this and only released beta 4 when FF/TB 8 were released. Current plans are to get 2.5 final out the door together with FF 8.0.1.

• "Where do we stand with the machine(s) right now?"
  • Callek, update?

• "What about the current tree status? When will METERED change to OPEN?"
  • METERED means approval required and try to not get too many pushes in short order.
  • Callek, update?

Release Train

• Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
  • Patch updated. Awaiting review. Although it looks like Corey has taken over the bug from Callek.
• 2.5b4 shipped 9th November.
• 2.5 final now depends on FF 8.0.1 (ETA TBD).

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

• Addon Compatibility Listings created and maintained by InvisibleSmiley, with help from some community members like DERoss.
  • Recent changes can be found here.
  • [InvisibleSmiley:] The External Sources part is still TODO, help appreciated.
• Enigmail provides versions for release (AMO) and all branches (Enigmail nightly page)
• Lightning currently provides versions for the current stable release (AMO), Aurora and trunk (both FTP) and Beta (Calendar Versions page).
• The latest Firebug is now fully compatible but still not flagged as such on AMO (which seems to depend on automatic tests being set up and run on the Firebug side, see Issue 4430)
  • [InvisibleSmiley] Use Firebug 1.9 pre-releases for 2.4 and later (maybe even earlier SM versions; haven't checked)
• Besides the above, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.x.
  • Useful query: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/?sort=popular
• InvisibleSmiley still needs help updating and maintaining the FAQ Wiki page. Everybody please help update it, so it stays current. mcsmurf says he'll help.
• KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.
• We need to get the Addon Compatibility page finished and better communicate how to keep Lightning and Enigmail updated since unfortunately the only versions provided on AMO are for the current stable release. People keep coming back reporting that e.g. Lightning stopped working on trunk, Aurora or Beta. But since it contains binary components, Lightning easily breaks if you don't retrieve the matching install file yourself.
  • [InvisibleSmiley] Lightning 1.0 is compatible with SM 2.5.

We should also add some information on this to the release notes of future betas.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

2.x Follow-ups and Issues

Moved to a separate page.

2.5

open tracking (2) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (30)

• The New 2.5 Features page has a comprehensive list of features.
• 2.4.x had ~A ADU by last Thursday and 2.4.1 has had ~B downloads so far.
  • Of the released versions, as of last Thursday, we have C% on 2.0, D% on 2.1, E% on 2.2, F% on 2.3 and G% on 2.4. So, in the last two weeks, ~Hk (and additional I% of ADU) have migrated to 2.4.

2.Next

• Please make sure that anything that landed on comm-beta (for TB) or mozilla-beta (for FF) which affected non-shared code and which fixed regressions will be fixed on our side, too. Please mark bugs we feel *need* to land on a particular train tracking+ or tracking? so that when we to do a release we can be sure that we don't miss anything.
  • Priority should be given to fixing regressions ASAP. Also keep an eye on and prioritize bugs to be ported from FF/TB that land on branches (Aurora, Beta). We need to keep an eye especially on Session Restore, Sync, Tabbrowser and Address Book.
  • Be careful not to break code shared with Thunderbird, otherwise patches might have to be backed out of string frozen repositories.
• Remember to help update the New Features pages as we go along.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 35 new, 28 fixed, 13 triaged.

• Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

Open reviews/flags: 32 review 14 super-review 0 ui-review 9 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

Active

• bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
  • Progressing slowly, still waiting on reviews from TB side. Full customization has to go to 2.next (currently 2.6 but could be pushed back further) as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
  • IanN will need to poke some people about reviews not happening quickly enough.
  • There is still a patch that needs checking in but both the patches there are for SM (even though it is a TB bug :P).
  • IanN is still wading through the unpicking of Composer/Mail Compose code in the dependent bugs. After that he will be reworking his customising patches.
• de-RDF bug 654864 has been finished and landed on all development branches, including 2.3. Still to do:
  • Neil wanted to follow up on some listener issues. This is being addressed in bug 669203.
  • for the selection issue, see what the TB guys come up with in bug 669203.
• bug 477845 Build a standalone (Comm-central) Composer. [kaze]
  • kaze has done a bit of work in this bug recently. Building on Windows works. Now supports debug builds on Linux if tests are disabled (--disable-tests). Still a lot to do.
  • IanN was supposed to help get builds working with --enable-tests.
    • Will look into this once he gets his customization patches reworked.
• Real full-screen (bug 610509) and DOM full-screen (bug 701714)
  • patches provided by Mnyromyr and InvisibleSmiley

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

• Kill-RDF:
  • bug 657607 Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
  • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object. [serge]
• bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
  • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
• bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
• bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
  • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
• bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
• bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
• bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug.
• bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
  • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
  • The rest is unowned so far.
• bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
  • Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.
• bug 677484 Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.
• bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address
  • Note: The actual task here is to port bug 45715 "Reply to List" [button/(context) menu item]
• bug 664309 Make the built-in ChatZilla display a cZ icon in SeaMonkey (now helpwanted)
• Port HTML5 "context menu" feature (contextmenu attribute) UI (bug 702019)
  • We should tackle this one ASAP.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Any other business?

• Need to review project areas
  • IanN has put out a final draft of the project areas list, and will then confirm that anyone who is not in the loop already has been consulted.
• Extended Support Releases (ESR)
  • At the moment looks like that will be based off either Gecko 8 or 9 so potentially that will be either 2.5 or 2.6 for us. Assuming we have the machines, we will also have an ESR which might help move some of those still on 2.0 up to 2.5/2.6.
  • Our ESR should use the same branch as Firefox ESR so any Security and Stability "extended" fixes for Gecko will be picked up by the SeaMonkey ESR.
  • A ESR (Extended Security Release) may not be a given for us out of the gate. Callek thinks we should revisit that, separately, once it is clearer both what Gecko it will be based on, and what MoCo's general plans for their marketing/target/ support-levels etc are.
• Geolocation.
  • We can probably start working on this. Callek hasn't verified all the minutia there yet, but if someone wants to begin work, he can devote slightly more of his time to it.
  • Geolocation now works out of the box. MoCo turned it on by default for all applications that build off mozilla-central.
    • For comm-beta all we need to do is (bug 494421) to add pref("geo.wifi.uri", "https://www.google.com/loc/json"); to browser-prefs.js.
• Who was going to MozCamp Europe 2011? (sgautherie, KaiRo, mcsmurf, Mnyromyr and stefanh)
  • Anything noteworthy?
• Who is going to MozCamp Asia 2011? (Ratty).
  • Nothing planned w.r.t. SeaMonkey, but Ratty might give a lightning talk.