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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

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OPEN

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CLOSED

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Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • We are perma-red and perma-orange on comm-central due to not having a recent enough version of Python (or if we do, the build scripts aren't finding them).
    • On trunk Linux and OSX trunk builds are perma-red. Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
    • pymake is failing with "invalid syntax" again because of an outdated Python.
  • No Windows langpacks since 8th April on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk-l10n/win32/xpi/ (as well as .../mac/xpi/) contain nothing more recent than 2.20a1. Not sure if a bug has been filed. Linux-i686 is OK… when the Linux builders are green of course (see "current linux bustage" bullet item below). Linux-x86_64 langpacks were never built (enhancement bug 892418), so that's OK too. Callek told me on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first. This is low priority since langpacks are supposed to be the same regardless of on which platform they were built, but it might indicate (I haven't checked) missing "full builds" for W32 and Mac other than en-US. Tonymec (talk) 17:53, 23 July 2013 (PDT)
    • Recently it has got worse: Not only no Mac and W32 langpacks later than 2.20a1, but no Linux langpacks dated later than 29 August, even though Linux nightlies are being published every 24h now. Tonymec (talk) 04:39, 17 September 2013 (PDT)
    • All three trunk langpacks directories (one per platform) have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs.
    • Trunk, Aurora and Beta TBPLs are far more orange (or even red) than green; at the top of Aurora and Beta TBPLs there is a link to mozilla.org::ServerOps:DCOps bug 870207 which is RESOLVED WONTFIX since June. SeaMonkey::RelEng bug 884454 has been opened as a followup.
  • Newer version of TBPL at [1].
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings until he gets things stable enough to reopen the tree.
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer is working on this.


Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.21 final has been released September 17, 2013.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • The Sun Java 7 plugin should start working in SeaMonkey 2.22 Linux builds again (was broken before on Linux). Fixed by bug 904485 (stdcxx error in build).
  • There are now Lightning versions for both SM 2.20 (Lightning 2.5b2) and SM 2.21 betas (Lightning 2.6b1) available on AMO.
    • Might need to point out in release notes that users needs to install the Lightning beta versions for the SeaMonkey releases (as Lightning follows Thunderbird 17.0.x release schedule)
    • Problem: Linking to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/versions/ will provide users with versions that do not put them on the addons beta update channel; also linking to a specific version would need updating with every release
    • Linking to https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightning/#beta-channel does not jump to the correct page position as addons.mozilla.org loads the user comments for the addon after pageload. So it first moves to the correct position (page anchor) and after that it loads the user comments
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the client.py every 6 weeks. bug 763506
  • Nightly Tester Tools is being actively developed by xabolcs (coder) and whimboo (reviewer) to make it more compatible with comm-central in general and SeaMonkey in particular. See Issues · mozilla/nightlytt · GitHub.
    The latest AMO version supports SeaMonkey and the latest AMO "development" version even supports customizing the title and/or the "Build ID" paste with either or both of the mozilla-{something} and comm-{something} changesets.
  • Tb/Sm QuickFolders development version 3.12beta2 released 2013-09-18 includes among other things "numerous SeaMonkey bugfixes" which aren't yet in the "stable" version 3.12 — or in the beta1 for that matter. Since then a beta3 has already been issued, and on September 25 a "3.12.1 maintenance release with important bugfixes" whose release notes don't explicitly mention SeaMonkey (but the same "SeaMonkey bugfixes" are probably included).
  • Plugins: (They are not XPIs but nowadays they are handled by the add-ons manager so they might belong here for lack of a better section on this page.)
    • bug 549697 changed the way the preferences for plugins click-to-play work. Mcsmurf fixed this in bug 901749 by making "Activate all plugins by default" in SeaMonkey preferences to set the right preference (plugin.default.state).

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.21

open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (1) fixed (41)

2.Next

  • Current breakages:
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two configure.in changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 839034 move markPageAsXXX methods to nsINavHistoryService. Tracked in:
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now working and uplifted to SeaMonkey 2.19. Currently we are treating this feature as Experimental because although most things are working some edge cases have probably been missed. Hopefully any remaining bugs will be found before we formally announce.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.
  • TODO The about:privatebrowsing page needs UI polish (bug 842439).

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 35 new, 22 fixed, 18 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 23 review 7 super-review 2 ui-review 6 feedback

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Aqualon

Callek

ewong

IanN

InvisibleSmiley

KaiRo

mcsmurf

Misak

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Px

Ratty

rsx11m

Fixed on trunk, waiting for branch approval:

  • bug 918425 Print dialog box appears under other open windows for Mail & News.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 902131 Add note for "legacy content" to Mail & News Character Encoding preferences and update Help.
  • bug 916823 Change Folder Properties labels for incoming mail character encoding from "default" to "fallback" after bug 846221 introduced it for browser prefs. (TB ui-r pending)
  • bug 919347 Incorrect label for SSL Warnings preferences in Security Sockets Layer pane.
  • bug 904189 Document changes in SSL warnings and new options for mixed content blocker in Security Socket Layer preference pane.

Cancelled review:

  • bug 868495 Browser main preference pane cut off on Windows 7 with hardware acceleration enabled. (additional patch)

Filed:

  • bug 918853 Existing Thunderbird profile is no longer offered for import in a first-run situation.
  • bug 921507 Find in page/Quickfind bar animation shows up at the bottom while the bar itself is positioned at the top. (closed WFM due to backout)

Other:

  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

sgautherie

stefanh

Tobin

tonymec

Any other business?

  • Who is going where for the Mozilla Summit 2013?
    • Brussels: Callek, IanN, mcsmurf, Mnyromyr, Neil.
      • Tonymec lives in Brussels but won't be at the Summit due to Paris/Brussels mixup. Welcome to any Sea Monkeys at his home or in a pub in town!
    • Santa Clara: KaiRo, Ratty.
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