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* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Participants (in order of appearance):  
* Participants (in order of appearance): frg IanN WG9s rsx11m


== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''The fishes decided no one was worthy this time'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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*** This might affect building 2.49.5 too.
*** This might affect building 2.49.5 too.
*** '''ewong''' has been testing out Jenkins to sit alongside Kallithea.
*** '''ewong''' has been testing out Jenkins to sit alongside Kallithea.
*** Overall not much progress has been made.
* Please see [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Ewong/infrastatus Infrastructure Status]
* Please see [https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Ewong/infrastatus Infrastructure Status]
* '''daniel''' wants to contact ewong and asking about our azure configuration.
* '''daniel''' wants to contact ewong and asking about our azure configuration.
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** Builds were fixed after the meeting by checking in {{Bug|1531399}}.
** Builds were fixed after the meeting by checking in {{Bug|1531399}}.
** msvc VS2017 is no longer supported for building under Windows. It still neds to be installed but clang is used as the compiler.
** msvc VS2017 is no longer supported for building under Windows. It still neds to be installed but clang is used as the compiler.
* [comm-beta]:
* [comm-beta]:
** We currently do not track nor update comm-beta.
** We currently do not track nor update comm-beta.
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** See {{bug|1313304}} for current breakages.
** See {{bug|1313304}} for current breakages.
** Builds from this repo are the only ones fully usable right now.
** Builds from this repo are the only ones fully usable right now.
** An unoffcial 2.49.5 is available from [http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ WG9's website]. See [https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2018-09-16#Release_Train Release Train].
** An unofficial 2.49.5 is available from [http://www.wg9s.com/comm-esr/ WG9's website]. See [https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2018-09-16#Release_Train Release Train].
 


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*** '''frg''' also backported support for VS2017 and the latest Windows toolkit to 2.49. VS2017 will be used for building 2.49.5.
*** '''frg''' also backported support for VS2017 and the latest Windows toolkit to 2.49. VS2017 will be used for building 2.49.5.
** '''frg''' suggests dropping the 2.49 branch after doing 2.49.5. Updating two branches and also fixing up 2.57 for the next release takes too much time.
** '''frg''' suggests dropping the 2.49 branch after doing 2.49.5. Updating two branches and also fixing up 2.57 for the next release takes too much time.
*** This will only be possible if we can add enough missing l10n variables to the l10n repos.
*** This will only be possible if we can add enough missing l10n variables to the l10n repos for an interim 2.53 release.


* SeaMonkey 2.57 Gecko 60 in comm-esr60.
* SeaMonkey 2.57 Gecko 60 in comm-esr60.
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*** comm-central only patches must not delete any strings in the suite en-US directory until 2.57 is out.
*** comm-central only patches must not delete any strings in the suite en-US directory until 2.57 is out.
*** When doing patches please make sure to change the l10n labels when the content changes.
*** When doing patches please make sure to change the l10n labels when the content changes.
*** cZ, DOMi and the Lightning extension will be compatible with 2.57.
*** cZ, DOMi, debugQA and the Lightning extension will be compatible with 2.57.
*** At least cZ and DOMi might again be excluded because of the l10n problem tracked in {{bug|1231349}}.
*** At least cZ and DOMi might again be excluded because of the l10n problem tracked in {{bug|1231349}}.
** Mail and news source structure has been aligned with Thunderbird in {{bug|1506440}}.
** Mail and news source structure has been aligned with Thunderbird in {{bug|1506440}}.
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* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]
* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]
** Next Merge Day: March 18th, 2019. ''(scheduled)''
** Next Merge Day: March 18th, 2019. ''(scheduled)''
** SeaMonkey is now at version 2.65a1
** SeaMonkey will be at version 2.65a1 after the merge day. Gecko will be at version 68 and become mozilla-esr68 later.
** '''rsx11m''' will ask for Firefox tracking and status flags be removed from the SeaMonkey bugzilla component.
 


=== Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking ===
=== Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking ===
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*** While packed directly it is still maintained as an extension
*** While packed directly it is still maintained as an extension
** Add-ons need to switch to optionsType 3 for 2.57. TB did a fix showing the preferences in the menu list. We need to port this bug for 2.57.
** Add-ons need to switch to optionsType 3 for 2.57. TB did a fix showing the preferences in the menu list. We need to port this bug for 2.57.
* cZ and DOMi should be integrated into SeaMonkey because of the l10n problem tracked in {{bug|1231349}}.
** '''IanN''' suggested forking them. The l10n files for DOMi will be moved into l10n-central.
** The language pack for cZ will be removed and a translated cZ will be included.
** '''frg''' plans to look into this too.


* WebExtension support in SeaMonkey is tracked in {{Bug|1320556}}. As of now working on this has not started.
* WebExtension support in SeaMonkey is tracked in {{Bug|1320556}}. As of now working on this has not started.
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** SeaTab X2 and Version Number work in 2.57.
** SeaTab X2 and Version Number work in 2.57.
** debugQA works in 2.57.
** debugQA works in 2.57.
* NoScript Classic 5.x is still being updated. You can get it from [https://noscript.net/getit]. Currently 5.1.9.
* uBlock Origin is still being updated. You can get it from [https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases]. You need to pick the latest legacy version. Currently 1.16.4.10.


* The SeaMonkey and Thunderbird add-ons are now hosted on [https://addons.thunderbird.net/].
* The SeaMonkey and Thunderbird add-ons are now hosted on [https://addons.thunderbird.net/].
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* We will evalute the possibility of shipping pdf.js with SeaMonkey in a future release. '''frg''' will look into it when he finds some time.
* We will evalute the possibility of shipping pdf.js with SeaMonkey in a future release. '''frg''' will look into it when he finds some time.
* NoScript Classic 5.x is still being updated. You can get it from [https://noscript.net/getit]. Currently 5.1.9.
* uBlock Origin is still being updated. You can get it from [https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/releases]. You need to pick the latest legacy version. Currently 1.16.4.6.


* Mozilla removed all classic add-ons from AMO. '''Rainer_Bielefeld''' filed {{Bug|1517828}} to see if missing add-ons can be re-added. The add-on converter also no longer works because of this.
* Mozilla removed all classic add-ons from AMO. '''Rainer_Bielefeld''' filed {{Bug|1517828}} to see if missing add-ons can be re-added. The add-on converter also no longer works because of this.
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=== 2.x (Last, Current, Next) ===
=== 2.x (Last, Current, Next) ===
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]] page for the usual reminders.
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]] page for the usual reminders.
* Old add-on signing methods has been removed. SeaMonkey and Thunderbird still use them per thread "removing "the old way" of signing add-ons" in mozilla.dev.platform. Apparently dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/so…sions/content/xpinstallConfirm.xul contain the references to them.
* Old add-on signing methods have been removed. SeaMonkey and Thunderbird still use them per thread "removing "the old way" of signing add-ons" in mozilla.dev.platform. Apparently [https://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-esr60/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/content/xpinstallConfirm.xul xpinstallConfirm.xul] contained the references to them.


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==== 2.49.x current releases ====
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