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** if the direct link doesn't work, try [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/ ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/] explicitly
** if the direct link doesn't work, try [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/ ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/] explicitly
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Participants (in order of appearance):  
* Participants (in order of appearance): IanN WaltS48 frg rsx11m WG9s




== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''Our l10n localizers from around the globe for, you guess it, translationg SeaMonkey strings.'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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** '''ewong''' set up an intial crash-stats server and is testing it.
** '''ewong''' set up an intial crash-stats server and is testing it.
** We expect to switch to it for the 2.53.10b1 release.
** We expect to switch to it for the 2.53.10b1 release.
** '''IanN''' is fixing some some cert issues together with '''ewong'''
** '''WG9s''' did switch the 2.53.10b1 pre builds already to the new server.
*** We plan to provide symbols for the b1 pre builds too so.
*** There are still several issues open which are being in the process of being fixed.
* The '''WGS9s''' servers are working fine and unofficial builds are being released.
* The '''WGS9s''' servers are working fine and unofficial builds are being released.
* We are looking at [https://foss.heptapod.net/public hg heptapod] to mirror some of code.
* We are looking at [https://foss.heptapod.net/public hg heptapod] to mirror some of code.
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** Currently CentOS 7 can not use the mozilla provided compilers because of a downlevel libstd.
** Currently CentOS 7 can not use the mozilla provided compilers because of a downlevel libstd.
* gcc 11 support is probably broken because of gcc header changes. It will be fixed as time permits.
* gcc 11 support is probably broken because of gcc header changes. It will be fixed as time permits.
* VS2022 Preview (currently preview 4.1) is supported for 2.53.10b1 pre and later for 2.57 too.
* VS2022 RC (currently RC 2) is supported for 2.53.10b1 pre and planned later for 2.57 too.
** The release date for VS2022 GA has been set to November 8th.
** The Windows build server will not be switched to it initially.
* The latest Windows 10 toolkit 10.0.20348 causes a compile error with the mapi.h header.
* The latest Windows 10 toolkit 10.0.20348 causes a compile error with the mapi.h header.
** Recommended version is still 10.0.19041.
** Recommended version is still 10.0.19041.
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** Sidebar and Help are broken because of XUL template removals. See {{Bug|1584728}}.
** Sidebar and Help are broken because of XUL template removals. See {{Bug|1584728}}.
** Please file bugs only if you know a specific problem is new and needs to be fixed. In any case check the existing bug reports to not generate bug noise.
** Please file bugs only if you know a specific problem is new and needs to be fixed. In any case check the existing bug reports to not generate bug noise.
** Despite having a newer codebase 2.57 is a bit behind 2.53 and central right now and needs to be synced with 2.53 backports and patches again.
** Despite having a newer codebase 2.57 is behind 2.53 and central right now and needs to be synced with 2.53 backports and patches again.
*** '''frg''' started with synching but is swamped with other things.
** See {{Bug|1433370}} for current 2.57 issues.
** See {{Bug|1433370}} for current 2.57 issues.


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** It was switched to gcc 8.3.1 for the Linux i686, clang 9.0.1 for the macOS and VS2019 16.11.3 for the Windows x64 build so please test.
** It was switched to gcc 8.3.1 for the Linux i686, clang 9.0.1 for the macOS and VS2019 16.11.3 for the Windows x64 build so please test.
** It works with Windows 11 but has some menu styling issues with the Classic theme (white text on light gray background).
** It works with Windows 11 but has some menu styling issues with the Classic theme (white text on light gray background).
* We plan to release '''SeaMonkey 2.53.10 Beta 1'' next.
* We plan to release '''SeaMonkey 2.53.10 Beta 1'' at the end of October.
** No ETA date finalized yet.
** The release is tracked in {{Bug|1727000}}.
** The release is tracked in {{Bug|1727000}}.
** Release is a bit delayed because of many new l10n changes, a few missing reviews and trying to put further fixes for better web compatibility in.
** Release is a bit delayed but is now on track. Some version related stuff needs still to be finalized.
** Backporting {{Bug|1228841}} did break the download them all (DTA) and maybe other old add-ons. DTA needs to be fixed by the author ar a third party.
** Security fixes which apply up to ESR78.15 were already applied to the b1 pre version.
** Backporting {{Bug|1228841}} did break the download them all (DTA) and maybe other old add-ons. DTA needs to be fixed by the author or a third party.
***  We still try to not break classic add-ons but need to get parser fixes for later features in and the obsolete stuff is really in the way sometimes.
***  We still try to not break classic add-ons but need to get parser fixes for later features in and the obsolete stuff is really in the way sometimes.
** Input field date works now but needs some more styling for the Modern theme. It will be enabled for the beta release.
** Input field date works now and thanks to '''njsg''' has been styled for the Modern theme too. It will be enabled for the beta release.
*** This needed changes in the tab browser by adding a browser stack in {{Bug|1730392}}. Please test.
*** This needed changes in the tab browser by adding a browser stack in {{Bug|1730392}}. Please test.
*** Input field time can be enabled with setting dom.forms.datetime.timepicker to true. Still disabled in latest Firefox so use it only for testing.
*** Input field time can be enabled with setting dom.forms.datetime.timepicker to true. Still disabled in latest Firefox so use it only for testing.
** Because of bad user agent sniffing we consider to update the base UA version from Gecko 60 to 68 or 78.
** Because of bad user agent sniffing we consider to update the base UA version from Gecko 60 to 68 or 78.
*** A test patch setting it to 78 has been added to the prerelease version. Please report any website breakage in the support groups only.
*** A test patch setting it to 78 has been added to the prerelease version. Please report any website breakage in the support groups only.
*** We might set it to 68 because of problems with google when you use strict Firefox compatibility for the UA.
*** Mid term we might implement overrides for bad web sites like Waterfox does using a json file containing the UA replacements.
* Some languages might need new or more translators. See [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3077284 help wanted for translating].
* Some languages might need new or more translators. See [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=3077284 help wanted for translating].
* ''' frg''' proposes to skip beta releases because we get no or minimal feedback only and this delays delivering security fixes among other things.
* ''' frg''' proposes to skip beta releases because we get no or minimal feedback only and this delays delivering security fixes among other things.
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* [https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy uBlock Origin] is still being updated. The latest legacy version is currently 1.16.4.30.
* [https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy uBlock Origin] is still being updated. The latest legacy version is currently 1.16.4.30.
* [https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/session-manager/ Session Manager] is still being updated. Latest version is 0.8.1.14 and supports SeaMonkey 2.53.x.
* [https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/session-manager/ Session Manager] is still being updated. Latest version is 0.8.1.14 and supports SeaMonkey 2.53.x.
* [https://github.com/JustOff/github-wc-polyfill/ github-wc-polyfill] can be used for accessing github and gitlab. Both need Custom Elements support right now. Latest version is 1.2.4.
* [https://github.com/JustOff/github-wc-polyfill/ github-wc-polyfill] can be used for accessing github and gitlab. Both need Custom Elements support right now. Latest version is 1.2.5.
* '''IanN''' created an SM version of the QuickText add-on.
* '''IanN''' created an SM version of the QuickText add-on.


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=== Any other business? ===
=== Any other business? ===
* The next meeting will be held in two weeks on Sunday October 31, 2021, 14:00 UTC (16:00 CET).
* The next meeting will be held in two weeks on Sunday October 31, 2021, 15:00 UTC (16:00 CET).
** We decided to stay with 16:00 CET after the time change to Winter time in the EU.
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