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** if the direct link doesn't work, try [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/ ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/] explicitly
** if the direct link doesn't work, try [ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/ ircs://irc.libera.chat:6697/] explicitly
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Participants (in order of appearance):  
* Participants (in order of appearance): IanN WaltS48 frg njsg rsx11m




== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''Fox for the new from icon in {{Bug|1710915}} and Dirk Fieldhouse for forking and fixing the DownThemAll add-on'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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* We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.
* We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.
** '''IanN''' is looking into it.
** '''IanN''' is looking into it.
* We need a new bugzilla component to move web compatibility bugs into it.
** These bugs usually go nowhere unless a specfic feature is backported but we do not want to close them as invalid for now.
** '''frg''' will ask for the component to be created.


'''CLOSED'''
'''CLOSED'''
* —
* —
* After the freenode self destruct change the website to libera chat.
** Freenode website removal is complete.
** {{Bug|1741082}} tracks remaining cZ code replacements in help and tests.
** {{Bug|1716547}} added the initial switch to libera.chat.
** {{Bug|1716544}} is still open and can be used for complete freenode removal from cZ.
** freenode switched to SASL only and seems to be further sliding into irrelevance.


=== Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure ===
=== Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure ===
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** EOL for 2012 R2 is early 2023.
** EOL for 2012 R2 is early 2023.
** '''frg''' tested building with Server 2016 to 2022 so we can do this when needed.
** '''frg''' tested building with Server 2016 to 2022 so we can do this when needed.
* For Windows mozbuild 3.4 is working for 2.53.10 and up.


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** Various non SeaMonkey/comm-central specific problems now seem to pop up using mach bootstrap. One wonders how this is tested and got r+ lately...
** Various non SeaMonkey/comm-central specific problems now seem to pop up using mach bootstrap. One wonders how this is tested and got r+ lately...
*** Builds now needs nsis 3.07 under Windows. Bootstrap fails to install it.
*** Builds now needs nsis 3.07 under Windows. Bootstrap fails to install it.
*** Builds need "ac_add_options --without-wasm-sandboxed-libraries" in the mozconfig for all OS. Boostrap fails to install a wasi-sysroot. Information how to set this up is nowhere to be found.
*** Builds need "ac_add_options --without-wasm-sandboxed-libraries" in the mozconfig for all OS. Boostrap fails to install a wasi-sysroot. You need the taskcluster package for it.


* [comm-esr60]:
* [comm-esr60]:
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*** If you want to build the latest release without pending fixes you can also check out from [https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/ gitlab].
*** If you want to build the latest release without pending fixes you can also check out from [https://gitlab.com/seamonkey-project/ gitlab].
*** stylo and webrender building is currently broken but disabled by default.
*** stylo and webrender building is currently broken but disabled by default.
*** Rust from 1.47 up to 1.55.0 is supported for 2.53.10.
** Rust from 1.47 up to 1.56.1 is supported for 2.53.10.1.
** Rust 1.56.1 is supported for building 2.53.11b1 pre. If we do a 2.53.10.x point release we will support it there too.
** Rust 1.57.0 is only supported for building 2.53.11b1 pre. Windows builds will run into a link error in previous releases.
** Because of needed parser updates the legacy generator syntax might need to be removed. Currently extensive rebases are needed for every backport to the JS parser because of this. It is probably broken for add-ons.
** See {{Bug|1688498}} for important current 2.53 issues and enhancement requests.
** See {{Bug|1688498}} for important current 2.53 issues and enhancement requests.


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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey253&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey249&v2=2.53 fixed] (500)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey253&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey249&v2=2.53 fixed] (500)
* SeaMonkey 2.53.x originally based on Gecko 56 is in our gitlab comm-release repo.
* SeaMonkey 2.53.x originally based on Gecko 56 is in our gitlab comm-release repo.
* '''We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.53.11 Beta 1 next. No ETA yet.'''
* '''We plan to release SeaMonkey 2.53.11 Beta 1 next after 2.53.10.1. No ETA yet.'''
** The release will be tracked in {{Bug|1737435}}.
** The release will be tracked in {{Bug|1737435}}.
* SeaMonkey 2.53.10 final was released on November 16, 2021 after the meeting.
** We plan to sign the release under Windows. If the release is being delayed we might do another 2.53.10.x point release.
** The release was tracked in {{Bug|1737845}}.
* SeaMonkey 2.53.10.1 will be released soon.
** The release notes and website updates were tracked in {{Bug|1737846}}.
** The release is tracked in {{Bug|1744369}}.
** The release notes and website updates are tracked in {{Bug|1744370}}.
** 2.53.10.1 is mainly a security release and contains important security backports up to ESR 91.4.
** Crash reporting has been switched to our own server and is still in test. Public viewing of crash reports is planned for a later date.
** Crash reporting has been switched to our own server and is still in test. Public viewing of crash reports is planned for a later date.
** Backporting {{Bug|1228841}} did break the download them all (DTA) and maybe other old add-ons. DTA needs to be fixed by the author or a third party.
***  We still try to not break classic add-ons but need to get parser fixes for later features in and the obsolete stuff is really in the way sometimes.
** Input field date works now and thanks to '''njsg''' has been styled for the Modern theme too.
*** This needed changes in the tab browser by adding a browser stack in {{Bug|1730392}}.
*** Input field time can be enabled with setting dom.forms.datetime.timepicker to true. Still disabled in latest Firefox so use it only for testing.
** Because of bad user agent sniffing we updated the base UA version from Gecko 60 to 68.
** Because of bad user agent sniffing we updated the base UA version from Gecko 60 to 68.
*** Youtube no longer seems to display correctly for some users only advertizing Firefox in the UA.
*** Youtube no longer seems to display correctly for some users only advertizing Firefox in the UA.
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* [https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy uBlock Origin] is still being updated. The latest legacy version is currently 1.16.4.30.
* [https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock-for-firefox-legacy uBlock Origin] is still being updated. The latest legacy version is currently 1.16.4.30.
* [https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/session-manager/ Session Manager] is still being updated. Latest version is 0.8.1.14 and supports SeaMonkey 2.53.x.
* [https://addons.thunderbird.net/en-US/seamonkey/addon/session-manager/ Session Manager] is still being updated. Latest version is 0.8.1.14 and supports SeaMonkey 2.53.x.
* [https://github.com/JustOff/github-wc-polyfill/ github-wc-polyfill] can be used for accessing github and gitlab. Both need Custom Elements support right now. Latest version is 1.2.8.
* [https://github.com/JustOff/github-wc-polyfill/ github-wc-polyfill] can be used for accessing github and gitlab. Both need Custom Elements support right now. Latest version is 1.2.9.
* [https://github.com/dirkf/downthemall-legacy/releases/ DownThemAll] fixed version for 2.53.10 and up.
 
* '''IanN''' created an SM version of the QuickText add-on.
* '''IanN''' created an SM version of the QuickText add-on.


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