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Hello Mitchel, | |||
thanks for this initiative, I think I have two good ideas to the development, the thunderbird development team and the organizational structure. | |||
Maybe Thunderbird has not such a usersbase and development features and money resources to stay in that shape as it is. | |||
But I would not through away the baby with the bath tub, as we say here. | |||
First, making a new organization/foundation is too much work and takes time. So I suggest to give Thunderbird just one year more in the mozilla organization and then make it either a cild company or a sf.net community project. | |||
After that year, do not miss to ask the developers and coders about their interest, in which environment they want to work. | |||
Please, let Thunderbird for one year in this organizational structure as it is. And we can develop the following ideas. | |||
1. Thunderbird is a very good mail client. It is in one step mass-ready: But, Outlook is still better, because it has a calendar. | |||
So just add to Thunderbird a calendar function to get reminders for emails to reciepients with a bithday. So instead of outsourcing Thunderbird, merge Thunderbird, with Sunbird. Both are birds, you know? | |||
http://sourceforge.net/projects/portablesbird/ | |||
2. And this is the new idea of email: 80 % of email we do to trusted friends. And we do less email, because we are on Instant Messengers. | |||
So we need like in Google Mail the option for both: sending an email message or - if online - an Instant Message. | |||
There is a new serverless Instant Messenger out. this is http://retroshare.sf.net | |||
It is open for client and protocol, for all posix available, at the moment with QT/FLTK gui. | |||
The main principle is, that all communication is done ONLY to friends, which were defined before with a symmetric key exchange. This means, communication is safe and encrypted. | |||
This has the side effect, that no one can message and email me - besides the definded trusted friends. | |||
Retroshare Messenger is both: an email client and an serverless Instant Messenger. | |||
So... sending serverless Email is definately a feature, how mail is in future organized. The same for Instant Messaging. The Instant Messenger market is one with very high interest, see Google Talk or the merge of AOL-ICQ and MSN-Yahoo and all the Multimessengers. | |||
The idea is now: to implement RetroShare serverless Email and serverless Instant Messenger into Thunderbird. | |||
This should be scheduled for one year of work within the Mozilla Foundation (just a gui integration) and then we release some betas of Thunderbird with Retroshare Instant Messenger and serverless Mail and ideally with Sunbird Calendar. The official Release is then a full integration of RetroShare serverless protocol for serverless Email and Instant Message and the Sunbird. | |||
3. Thunderbird is used not so much, because it is not bundled into the Firefox Installer. | |||
One Comment said, that the Mozialla Foundation should then use the name Firefox Foundation. | |||
But instead of your initiative, I would recommend to a) give Thunderbird one year merging with Retroshare and b) going a little bit back to the roots: Mozilla Foundation was Netscape? So Mail and Surf. And if the we get Thunderbird with Firefox bundled to ONE Suite, then we would not have these problems. Really, I am really surprised about the suggestion to outsource Thunderbird, if it was Sunbird, ok, but Thunderbird? Even Netscape said, that the acutal version is only browser. But a few days later they said an email client will be not excluded for the future!!! | |||
My suggestion is: | |||
1. Integrate Sunbird in Thunderbird | |||
2. Integrate Retroshare in Thunderbird | |||
3. Bundle it to the Firefox Installer. | |||
Then after one year of development, decide new and see, how the product is used or not. | |||
And last: If there is a new organization needed for Thunderbird in one year, this is definately the OpenOffice.org community, as they play around with a calendar and as well with an Instant Messenger. | |||
*IF* Thunderbird MUST be outsourced now, then make a new joint-venture-company with OpenOffice, for a Product, which has Email (Thunerbird) Serverless Email and IM (Retroshare) and third a calendar (Sunbird) integrated. | |||
But it is a mistake to do it isolated outsourced (merged in a joint venture or not), this is why I suggest to have a very HIGH DEVELOPMENT for the next six months, to get the first version of Thunderbird 2.7.9.9 launched this year, with Sunbird and Retroshare implemented in the gui. | |||
The beta should be this year released. | |||
Then in 2008 we get first official Version of 2.8.0.0 | |||
I think this would be a good vision to email: a serverless email and message communication done with the retroshare protocol in the Thunderbird. | |||
Besided it would have good synergies to have the option to mail to friend over Retroshare (no spam, confidential mail, sending of documents... etc) | |||
and second you can use for Mails to public Mailadresses (with @ in a mailadress) the Thunderbird. Thunderbird would get an Instant Messenger as well. | |||
Last idea: Retroshare is discussion to add the www.sim-im.org Multimessenger as a Patch to retroshare, or other way round, SIM will integrate Retroshare.... this both added to Thunderbird would be like a Multimessenger we need. | |||
- serbased Mail Message (Thunderbird) | |||
- serverless Mail Message (Retroshare) | |||
- Serveless Instant Message (Retroshare) | |||
- Serverbased Multimessenger (SIM-im.org with AOl, MSN YAHO ICQ JABBER) | |||
- Calender Function like in Outlook (Sunbird). | |||
This should be the plans for thunderbird in the next months.. a lot of stuff to do, maybe you can discuss it with the small development team and get a few coders as well from firefox. | |||
Remember: The main goal is to get an Installer ready, which is Bundling Firefox with the Message Tool. | |||
Reading Information is only the half of the medaillon, the other half is to discuss them onlin ewith friends. | |||
Incoming Information (Reading web, Firefox) and outgoing information (Email, Thunderbird) are 2 ways of communications, which are essential for human beings. | |||
So please do not make mistakes! Give Thunderbird a Push with a serverless Instant Messenger. | |||
Thanks! | |||
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David and I have expressed some of our thoughts here: | David and I have expressed some of our thoughts here: | ||