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=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===


# Prepare Thunderbird 3 Alpha 1 release notes for the upcoming release.
 
#* nth10sd has the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=429235#c20 next revision] out.
* Shredder (name for Alpha 1 / nightlies), davida owns the bug
#* '''Everyone:''' Please comment on how we can improve the release notes (ping davida if you want to see the staging version).
** Most likely on the SVN, looking to move to wiki in the future.
#* '''davida''' still has to fill in some bits.
** Shredder will be both Minefield/Gran Paradiso equivalent for the moment.
# We need a code name for non-release TB builds.
** philor has reasons why names should be different for nightlies and alphas though.
#* Discussions [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/browse_thread/thread/9ec84ee3da0f5eb6 in the newsgroup].
*** davida will talk to him about names.
#** Currently no clear winner.
#* We have to have the equivalent of Firefox's Minefield/Gran Paradiso combination though.
#* '''davida''' post in newsgroup asking for scary names.
#* Lots of work to do to set it up, so this won't be done for Thunderbird 3.0a1.


=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a1]] ===
=== [[Thunderbird:Thunderbird_3.0a1]] ===
* Code freeze entered on Wednesday, April 23, 23:59 Pacific
 
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&resolution=---&chfieldto=Now&known_name=blocking-thunderbird3.0a1%2B&query_based_on=blocking-thunderbird3.0a1%2B&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=blocking-thunderbird3.0a1%2B 1 remaining blocker (release notes)]
* Nominations coming in, nothing too big to block
** One possible blocker related to moving content around; waiting for call from davida on that one.
** {{bug|431788}} - Which website should it be on?
* Verbiage is on the Tinderboxen forbidding checkins to mail/ and mailnews/ of non-3.0a1-blocking bugs without explicit approvals. Those directories will remain closed until we've cleared the blocker list (either by fixing or cutting remaining bugs), spun builds, and tagged the release.
* dmose talked to joduinn about the start of the process
* We're building a [[Releases/Thunderbird_3.0a1|release checklist]] as we go, so that this stuff is written down somewhere, possibly either updating or starting from http://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Mozilla_Release_Checklist. http://wiki.mozilla.org/Firefox3/Beta2ReleaseChecklist looks like useful source material as well.
** Keep the Shredder Alpha 1 bug up-to-date
** Nick will focus on Firefox 3 RCs though once that comes around.
** We will work with Nick on this, depending on his timetable.
 
* Rick
** Some configs' got their reviews denied.
** Still to be improved.
** Issues about tinderbox, buildbot, mozconfig to be sorted out etc.
** Pull date of 2008-05-01
*** Unless davida wants to take in one last {{bug|432188}}
*** Not a blocking though, still nominated.
*** Tag will then change.
** Ideal date is to have a build on Thursday
*** There is still the build configs sorted out though.
*** If no build available for Thursday, we'll use nightlies for testday.
** If things drag on, we'll branch.
** If not, we'll release on Friday or Monday, then we'll reopen the tree.


=== AMO recommended list ===
=== AMO recommended list ===


* {{bug|425333}} has been closed at it's current state
 
* A DRAFT list of recommendations with categories has been created at [[Talk:Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-04-29#Draft_List_with_Categories]]  
* Bryan has a draft, sent to the newsgroup, will blog about it as well.
* We (via clarkbw) have admin access to AMO so we can make our changes in the future without necessarily filing bugs
** Categories, recommended ones etc.
* Still need to send out draft recommended list to get final feedback
** Will finalize by today or tomorrow.
*** Also collaborating with [http://nic-nac-project.de/~kaosmos/index-en.html Nic Nac].
*** e.g. A Nic Nac extension improves return receipts.
** Will advise CMU team to head to the newsgroup.


(see the [[Talk:Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-04-29|Talk Page]] for more details)
(see the [[Talk:Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-04-29|Talk Page]] for more details)
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'''Last Bug Day''' [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-05-01|Thursday 1st May 2008]]
'''Last Bug Day''' [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-05-01|Thursday 1st May 2008]]


*
* Bug numbers dropping, good sign.


'''Next Bug Day''' [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-05-08|Thursday 8th May 2008]]
'''Next <strike>Bug</strike> Test Day''' [[Thunderbird:QA_TestDay:2008-05-08|Thursday 8th May 2008]]


*
* QA testplan is up
 
** We'll redirect testers to Litmus, will follow up with Coop about Thunderbird trunk litmus testcases.
'''Test Day'''
*** Update: seems that this would not be completed in time.
 
** Will use nightlies if Alpha 1 bits are not out yet.
Thunderbird 3 Alpha 1 testday to be decided, once Rick comes up with the Alpha builds.
* We can always change Bug Days to Test Days late in the day if specific items need testing.


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===
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* {{bug|430762}} filed to track this idea.
* {{bug|430762}} filed to track this idea.
* Would be good to have especially if http hosted.
* Would be good to have especially if http hosted.
** Update: davida is the owner.


davida:
davida:
* Set up a ui-review flag, so that the bugs where UI review is really needed can be flagged up to Bryan.
* Set up a ui-review flag, so that the bugs where UI review is really needed can be flagged up to Bryan.
** Update: ui-review is normally used per-patch.
*** Screenshots should get attached as well.


Standard8:
Standard8:
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** Get Messages instead of Get Mail {{bug|217941}}
** Get Messages instead of Get Mail {{bug|217941}}
** Account Settings / Properties {{bug|249620}}
** Account Settings / Properties {{bug|249620}}
* Worked on designs in spare time for [[User:Clarkbw/Return_Receipt]]
* Didn't get to [[Thunderbird:Search]] like expected, will get to this week
* Didn't get to [[Thunderbird:Search]] like expected, will get to this week


rick:
rick:
* Wants to know how to increase disk swap on the Mac.
** He can ask in #maildev
* Still stumped by {{bug|411171}}, altho no longer to be considered a blocker for 3.0a1
* Still stumped by {{bug|411171}}, altho no longer to be considered a blocker for 3.0a1
* working on getting the tinderbox configs for 3.0a1 completed.  Two attempts at a patch for the existing configs are close, but not complete.  Will be going thru a proper patch with Nick
* working on getting the tinderbox configs for 3.0a1 completed.  Two attempts at a patch for the existing configs are close, but not complete.  Will be going thru a proper patch with Nick
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dmose:
dmose:
* 3.0a1 driving
* 3.0a1 driving
** WIll go back to reviews soon, depends on how things go with Alpha 1


beckley:
beckley:
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* Made some progress about dummy protocol implementation. Not completed.  
* Made some progress about dummy protocol implementation. Not completed.  
* Planning to dig into data storage and search design and implementation of TB. Going to work with clarkbw on search.
* Planning to dig into data storage and search design and implementation of TB. Going to work with clarkbw on search.
* Dale hasn't got back to him yet, he's busy recently, will get back together soon
** May work on offline IMAP stuff together
* davida: should get Bryan, Emre, sid0 and beckley to have a chat about search.
asuth:
* ...
* dmose: sayrer is interested in asuth's work


=== Attendees ===
=== Attendees ===


davida (David), dmose (Dan), nth10sd (Gary), Standard8 (Mark), Emre, Rick, clarkbw (Bryan), asuth (Andrew), beckley (Jeff), wsmwk (Wayne)


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