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+:54 davidb: lmandel: I don't think I can join the dev meeting live, I have readonly updates for a11y and CritSmash (you can call out the latter if you like)
+:54 davidb: also, hi
+:57 elan: lmandel: dbl booked with a android sync ui pow wow but blassey has it covered as usual
+:57 elan: (I just won't see your smiling faces)
+:01 KaiRo: bsmedberg: do you want to voice your pieces of the stability update?
+:01 KaiRo has something to say as well there today
+:01 bsmedberg: yeah, kinda mixes with davidb's update
+:01 KaiRo: bsmedberg: ok
+:01 KaiRo: cpeterso_: so, we have stability voice update today, first part with bsmedberg, second with me
+:02 cpeterso_: ok
+:02 davidb: bsmedberg: you can give my update or modify or whatever makes sense
+:02 davidb: (you filed that bug :) )
+:03 jesup: RyanVM: looking at the bug
+:03 catlee: RyanVM: b2g mochitests still flaky even after reverting ec2 instance types?
+:04 lmandel: davidb, elan: Thanks
+:04 davidb nods
+:05 bmoss: jesup: thanks randall
+:08 overholt: someone needs to mute
+:08 blassey: warp core: can you mute?
+:08 blassey: dougt: ^
+:08 overholt: I think they did 'cause it's better now
+:10 dougt: blassey: I DO NOT DO YOUR BIDDING
+:10 RyanVM: jesup: I see bug 853356 landed on m-c around the time the hangs started
+:10 firebot: Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=853356 nor, --, 1.3 C3/1.4 S3(31jan), ayang, RESO FIXED, [B2G getUserMedia] Display camera/ microphone permission acquisition prompt
+:11 overholt: blassey, Jon Hylands
+:11 bsmedberg: blassey: rvitillo for desktop
+:11 dougt: blassey: what is that software that compresses the APK?
+:12 blassey: pngquant
+:12 overholt: excellent use of "voluntold", milan
+:12 blassey: lossy png compression
+:12 kbrosnan: questions at the end?
+:13 dveditz: who is speaking?
+:13 bmoss: milan
+:13 bsmedberg: milan, was dougt
+:13 dveditz: thx (I recognize dougt, my boss)
+:13 bmoss: ;-)
+:14 dougt: blassey: what PNGs does it reduce?
+:14 dougt: like all of the PNGs in our application?
+:14 blassey: dougt: we manually ran it on the png assets for android
+:15 jesup: jduell: concern about the impact on mobile... Can they be grouped to avoid lots of different timers firing and spinning up radios?
+:15 kbrosnan: dougt: more or less http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Preparing_images_for_upload#PNG_tips
+:16 dveditz: blassey: isn't lossy png compression "use jpg instead"?
+:16 lmandel: kbrosnan: Questions during the roundtable
+:16 RyanVM: jesup: i'm retriggering ASAN m-oth runs on m-c around the time of the regression as well to try and narrow the range a bit
+:17 laura: I can supply ponies.
+:17 blassey: dveditz: maybe..
+:17 davidb: offline ponies
+:17 dougt: overholt: we have someone working on web crypto.
+:17 jesup: RyanVM: thanks
+:17 overholt: dougt, I know
+:17 laura: davidb: that's the only kind I have
+:17 dougt: yeah, so maybe it satisfies everything they need
+:17 kbrosnan: dveditz: where lossy means choping to 8 bits png instead of using some of the larger formats
+:17 overholt: dougt, I put Richard in touch with them
+:17 overholt: yep
+:17 dougt: but I suspect it doens't
+:17 davidb: laura: the best kind
+:17 dougt: overholt: awesome.  cc' me
+:18 jduell: jesup: keepalive is handled by OS's TCP stack--if it's smart it could batch them, but I'm not sure if any do
+:18 dougt: bsmedberg: awesome.
+:18 davidb: bsmedberg++
+:18 dveditz: or not detect "attacks" so much as users stumbling across attackable situations
+:18 bsmedberg: go give dmajor your love
+:19 dveditz: (it's a very good thing!)
+:19 bsmedberg: dveditz: depends on how carefully the attack is constructed, yeah
+:19 dveditz: true, there are dumb attackers
+:19 jesup: jduell: Bummer.  Worth monitoring.  Keeping the radio active is a big power issue
+:19 jesup: blassey: ^
+:20 jduell: yeah it could be worth turning it off on mobile, at least after the 1st minute.
+:20 jesup: One TCP pinging on 10min is no prob.  If there are 100.... or more... at random intervals
+:20 jesup: Or you could make it depend on the number of sockets in this mode perhaps
+:20 blassey: interesting
+:21 kbrosnan: Linux has support in release
+:21 kbrosnan: for gstreamer-ugly
+:21 kbrosnan: though support for gstreamer 1.0 was added
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