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== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''IanN'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''None'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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'''NEW'''
'''NEW'''
* {{Bug|1057920}} SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
* —
** '''IanN''' will create a separate bug for the releng automation stuff and will find out what is required to get the work done.
'''OPEN'''
'''OPEN'''
* http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/seamonkey/ has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 ({{Bug|956561}}); move blog to blog.mozilla.org if possible '''Assigned: mcsmurf'''.
* http://weblogs.mozillazine.org/seamonkey/ has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 ({{Bug|956561}}); move blog to blog.mozilla.org if possible '''Assigned: mcsmurf'''.
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* {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
* {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
** mcsmurf will look into this
** mcsmurf will look into this
* {{Bug|1057920}} SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
** '''IanN''' will create a separate bug for the releng automation stuff and will find out what is required to get the work done.
'''CLOSED'''
'''CLOSED'''
* —
* —
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* [30th September 2014]
* [30th September 2014]
 
** Infrastructure issues
* [16th September 2014]
*** linux64 systems are plagued by {{bug|1058385}}. Regular AWOLing. Currently 8 slaves are down.
** [rsx11m] The most recent Windows nightly builds were 13-Jun-2014 09:36 for 2.30a1 and 21-Jul-2014 10:17 for 2.29a2. [ewong] Besides infrastructural issues, comm-central has flattened the objdir, which needs further infra changes. [IanN] There has been a lot of build system changes in the last few months.
*** WinNT systems were plagued by {{bug|1069119}} and {{bug|1069117}}; but they seem to be ok now.
*** NB: Currently the miscellaneous patches to fix the RelEng infra (tooltool et.al) are all applied to the master directly. Once reviewed, the patches will be pushed to their corresponding repositories and the master will be updated properly.
** [comm-central]
** [comm-central]
*** l10n nightly/dep - busted (related to {{bug|1064265}})
*** <s>All platforms busted : {{bug|1071497}}</s> Patch checked in. Builds now back to "normal".
*** blocklist update - busted ({{bug|1066896}} and {{bug|1066403}})
*** l10n nightly/dep builds busted : {{bug|1073327}} Fix waiting review.
*** osx64 debug tests : busted by {{bug|1066700}}.
*** blocklist update bustage : {{bug|1074572}} Fix waiting review.
*** Windows builds are broken due to some tooltool repo issue.
** [comm-aurora]
** [comm-aurora]
*** Linux*-debugs are busted due to {{bug|1053081}}
*** blocklist update bustage : {{bug|1074572}} Fix waiting review.
*** blocklist update - busted ({{bug|1066896}} and {{bug|1066403}})
*** OSX64 l10n nightly/dep bustage : related to {{bug|902876}}
*** OSX64 nightly - busted (*not yet determined why*)
*** WinNT (build/debug) bustage : {{bug|1053652}} Waiting for potential upstream fix.
*** l10n nightly/dep - busted (related to {{bug|1064265}})
** [comm-beta]
** [comm-beta]
*** Linux-debug busted due to  {{bug|1053081}})
*** Linux debug bustage : {{bug|1053081}} Fix waiting to be checked-in.
*** OSX debug busted (not yet determined)
*** WinNT build/debug bustage : {{bug|1072711}}
** [comm-release]
*** OSX64 bustage : {{bug|1023644}} Patches waiting for review.
 
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.
* In [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902876#c12 Bug 902876 Comment 12] Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.


* pymake has been discontinued. We need to install the latest Mozilla-build and tooltool on our windows builders (tracked by {{bug|1023644}} )
* No langpacks since 29th August 2013 on trunk. Needs investigating.
** Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
** In [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=902876#c12 Bug 902876 Comment 12] Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
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* '''[http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2834855 Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey]'''
* '''[http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2834855 Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey]'''
* This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.<p>Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey: [http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/ http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/]
* This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.<p>Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey: [http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/ http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/]
** There is a long list of Firefox and Thunderbird extensions that have been successfully converted in the Mozillazine thread[http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13564481#p13564481]. Can someone go through the thread and add the list of successful conversions to [[SeaMonkey/AddonCompat|SeaMonkey/AddonCompat]].
** Lemon Juice has been regularly updating his converter code, adding new fixes whenever an extension doesn't convert properly.
* {{Bug|1060858}} Ghostery 5.3.1 does not support SeaMonkey. Ghostery depends on the Addon-SDK. Since the SDK has been rewritten to support Firefox Australis redesign, Ghostery no longer works for SeaMonkey. ''Ratty'' has emailed info@ghostery.com regarding this.
* {{Bug|1060858}} Ghostery 5.3.1 dropped support for SeaMonkey. Ghostery depends on the Addon-SDK. Since the SDK has been rewritten to support Firefox Australis, Ghostery no longer works for SeaMonkey. See [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=2822105 discussion thread on mozillazine]
** [Ratty] I've contacted the Ghostery people (bmcdermott) and the addon-SDK people. The Addon-SDK has been updated ({{Bug|1071048}} so now Ghostery works on SeaMonkey trunk builds. The Addon-SDK is uplifted to mozilla-central every few weeks. Once this is done I'll try to get the Ghostery patch uplifted to -aurora and -beta. Lemon Juice has been [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13787129#p13787129 investigating] other SDK based addons and so far the news is encouraging. [https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/qrcoder/ QrCodeR] can work in SeaMonkey by setting a SeaMonkey compatibility flag on three modules context-menu.js, selection.js and panel.js. Investigation continues!
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]] page. Please only list current changes here.
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]] page. Please only list current changes here.
* [[SeaMonkey/AddonCompat|Addon Compatibility Listings]]
* [[SeaMonkey/AddonCompat|Addon Compatibility Listings]]
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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey229&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey229&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.29 targeted] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.29 targeted] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey229&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey228&f6=cf_status_seamonkey227&v2=2.29 fixed] (6)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey229&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey228&f6=cf_status_seamonkey227&v2=2.29 fixed] (8)
* [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.29/ SeaMonkey 2.29 Release Notes]
* [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.29/ SeaMonkey 2.29 Release Notes]
** Issues fixed in TB 31.1.x but didn't check in for release/beta/aurora:
** Issues fixed in TB 31.1.x but didn't check in for release/beta/aurora:
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** Known Issues: {{Bug|1062297}} All saved passwords [apparently] gone after update.<br/>Mozillazine Firefox thread: [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2864933 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2864933]
** Known Issues: {{Bug|1062297}} All saved passwords [apparently] gone after update.<br/>Mozillazine Firefox thread: [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2864933 http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=38&t=2864933]
*** [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13742105#p13742105 Workaround 1:]
*** [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13742105#p13742105 Workaround 1:]
  If you want Firefox 32.0 to take another crack at importing your passwords,
  1. In about:config, right-click signon.importedFromSqlite and choose Reset.
  2. Type about:support into the address bar and press Enter.
  3. Click the Show Folder button.
  4. Exit Firefox.
  5. Delete the logins.json file from the profile folder.
      This assumes you didn't save or modify any passwords in Firefox 32.0. If you did, not only will they all be lost, but the key3.db decryption key won't match the old signons.sqlite database from Firefox 31.0.
*** [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13767725#p13767725 Workaround 2:]
*** [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13767725#p13767725 Workaround 2:]
  There's a neat Password Exporter add-on:
  https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/password-exporter/
  Install it, then you get an option to import/export your passwords on the Tools>Options>Security tab.
  Export Passwords file which is automatically dated to .xml or .csv.
  Then install 32.0 or greater.
  You can then simply import all your passwords effortlessly.


==== 2.Next ====
==== 2.Next ====
* Stalled. Needs a kick.
* Stalled. Needs a kick.
** {{Bug|937809}} Add DuckDuckGo to the default search engines list. a=Callek land this ASAP.
** {{Bug|815954}} Click-to-Play: Port {{Bug|812562}} (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
** {{Bug|815954}} Click-to-Play: Port {{Bug|812562}} (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
** {{Bug|476108}} GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
** {{Bug|476108}} GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
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* Current breakages:
* Current breakages:
** {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
** {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
** {{Bug|995737}} adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
** {{Bug|995737}} adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
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** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.
* Soon to land changes on OSX, tracked by:
** {{Bug|1074019}} Modify file structure of SeaMonkey.app to allow for OSX v2 signing
** {{Bug|1074021}} Get SeaMonkey to launch with the new .app bundle structure
** {{Bug|1074025}} SeaMonkey's preprocessed channel-prefs.js file needs to be the same for each build


=== Feature List, Planning ===
=== Feature List, Planning ===
[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 53 new, 12 fixed, 17 triaged.
[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 57 new, 12 fixed, 18 triaged.
* Medium triaging effort, well above average in new bugs filed during the last three weeks.
* Medium triaging effort, well above average in new bugs filed during the last three weeks.
* '''IanN''' thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. '''Tonymec''' will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums  
* '''IanN''' thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. '''Tonymec''' will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums  
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 28 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 31 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 6 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 6 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 1 ui-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 3 ui-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 4 feedback]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 4 feedback]


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==== Callek ====
==== Callek ====
==== ewong ====
==== ewong ====
* Haven't done regular code fixing as I've been concentrating on the infra code changes.
** {{bug|1072713}} somewhat tracks the miscellaneous releng bugs.
==== IanN ====
==== IanN ====
* Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
* Fixed:
** {{Bug|1057824}} Update en-GB for Gecko 33 - Late l10n changes from {{bug|1069300}}
* Fixed for c-c:
** {{Bug|1060848}} Static-link the CRT into SeaMonkey executable (/suite/app/moz.build). Port {{Bug|1023941}} Part 1
** {{Bug|1061011}} Do not package .mkdir.done in XPIs
** {{Bug|1061029}} Port |{{Bug|815219}} - Default to building with all available cores| to SeaMonkey
** {{Bug|1061336}} Do not source mozconfig.common multiple times in linux in-tree mozconfigs
** {{Bug|1061341}} Port |{{Bug|895248}} - Move --enable-stdcxx-compat in build/unix/mozconfig.linux| to SeaMonkey
* Fixed for m-c:
* Fixed for m-i:
* Pending check in:
** {{Bug|1039003}} Port |{{Bug|633773}} Use Google's HTTPS search by default|, |{{Bug|958883}} Use HTTPS for Yahoo searches| and search plugin parts of |{{Bug|959576}} Create a component to get the list of priority domains| to Thunderbird
** {{Bug|1062559}} Port |{{Bug|1055627}} Pass MOZ_GLUE_PROGRAM_LDFLAGS after STATIC_LIBS to linker| to c-c
* Checked in pending review:
* Waiting for feedback/review:
** {{Bug|1061348}} Port |{{Bug|575283}} - Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
* Fixing review comments before checkin:
** {{Bug|757230}} When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
** {{Bug|798147}} Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
* Working on:
** {{Bug|1060897}} Static-link the CRT into Instantbird executable (/im/app/moz.build). Port {{Bug|1023941}} Part 1
** {{Bug|1051642}} Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
** {{Bug|943335}} [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
** Various SM Council documents.
** {{Bug|606683}} Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
** {{Bug|639690}} [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
** {{Bug|773979}} [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
** {{Bug|657234}} Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
** File/Folder selection in windows.
* To Do:
** {{Bug|639395}} Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
** Prefs-in-a-tab.
** Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
** Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.
==== InvisibleSmiley ====
==== InvisibleSmiley ====
==== KaiRo ====
==== KaiRo ====
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==== Mnyromyr ====
==== Mnyromyr ====
==== Neil ====
==== Neil ====
Checked in to comm-central:
* {{Bug|986935}} Restore from crash page is blank if default client dialog is open.
Needs checkin:
* {{Bug|870556}} Try to improve performance of the IMAP download queue.
Still waiting for review:
* {{Bug|1061990}} Cache size does not update after clearing cache.
* {{Bug|970993}} Aero Peek rendering issues.
==== Px ====
==== Px ====
==== Ratty ====
==== Ratty ====
Fixed. Needs checkin (waiting for greener tree):
* {{Bug|1009890}} Ctrl+P and Ctrl+W not working from Print Preview window (Port {{Bug|581470}}).
Fixed in Addon-SDK. Waiting for uplift to mozilla-central.
* {{Bug|1071048}} update sdk/tabs metadata to work in SeaMonkey (for Ghostery and other SDK based addons).
Fixed:
* {{Bug|1035171}} Switching tabs triggers onLocationChange with LOCATION_CHANGE_SAME_DOCUMENT flag.
* {{Bug|1039933}} While composing mail, there exists an empty line in attachment context menu when right clicked on the attachment area.
Working on:
* {{Bug|640420}} Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
* {{Bug|698310}} Spell Check Dialog to small for long words. Make it resizable.
* {{Bug|752331}} Define TopLevelImageDocument.css and TopLevelVideoDocument.css for SeaMonkey themes.
* {{Bug|1040910}} Support XHTML in feed titles.
* {{Bug|1068846}} Enable generational GC for SeaMonkey.
Investigating:
* Crashed notifications for GMP Plugins (porting {{Bug|1043531}}, {{Bug|1045500}}, and {{Bug|1009760}}).
Other stuff:
* Coordinate efforts to get SeaMonkey support into the Addon SDK, needed by Ghostery, QrCodeR, and other SDK based addons.
* Did some reviews.
* Bug triage and Bug discussions.
* Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and [http://forums.mozillazine.org/ Mozillazine].
==== rsx11m ====
==== rsx11m ====
Working on:
Working on:
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==== sgautherie ====
==== sgautherie ====
==== stefanh ====
==== stefanh ====
Did one review.
Waiting for review:
* {{Bug|333910}} nsITheme for menu/scrollbox arrows (Widget: Cocoa).
* {{Bug|973644}} Port bug 967970 - Set NSDisablePersistence to prevent disk leaks.
* {{Bug|1068997}} Implement keyboard shortcut for composition's "Find and Replace" on MAC.
==== tonymec ====
==== tonymec ====


=== Any other business?  ===
=== Any other business?  ===
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