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 == Agenda ==
-* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
+* Who's taking minutes? -> '''Ratty'''
 * Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
-** '''TBD'''
+** '''Ewong''' for getting 2.40 out despite all odds and a broken hand.
 === Action Items ===
 (who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug)
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 '''NEW'''
+* '''IanN''' to review members mailing-list and council appointments (IanN to talk to mcsmurf about members list)
 * &mdash;
 '''OPEN'''
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 === Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree ===
 <!--Please update accordingly-->
+* Discussion:
+** Ewong has managed to get uploads to the S3 servers working - mostly.
+** Discussions have started with ewong, Callek, KaiRo, and others) about the route forward for both releases and infrastructure as well as growing the RelEng team and funding.
+** But the build team needs to be grown as ewong is not a superhero.
+** Council will have to decide if Adrian Kalla can be part of our RelEng team.
+** '''FRG:''' All trees are building locally just fine with client.py fixes for chatzilla and dom-inspector. Running 2.43 now.
 * Notes:
-** Callek is winding down his involvement over the next 12 months. Possible replacement: Adrian Kalla (adriank).
+** '''Callek:''' Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I'm hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I'm realistic expecting it won't be until January at earliest.
-** '''Callek:''' Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I'm hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I'm realistic expecting it won't be until january at earliest.
 ** '''Ewong''' will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine.
-*** The loaner machine was decommissioned without notice.
-*** Got a new loaner.
 ** Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as {{Bug|1092468}} and {{Bug|1108970}}. Migrating our [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114876 Windows builders to Win2008] and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
 ** There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 ({{bug|1107635}}).
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 ** For various reasons we don't have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
 ** wrt {{bug|1155011}}, we already have a Soccoro token.  The patches on {{bug|1155013}} require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
-* [2nd February 2016]
+* [15th March 2016]
-** [Tonymec] Building has stopped since 9 January. No tinderbox builds either. [frg] c-c would be clear to me. c-a pulls the wrong Chatzilla and Inspector again. Not sure if this is the cause. See {{Bug|1167346}}. [IanN] ewong|away has mentioned looking at Jenkins.
+** [comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta]
+*** Busted due to a host of bugs. [:ewong : currently busy fixing the mess I made with the 2.40 updating to check.]
 * See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.
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 === Release Train ===
-* {{Bug|1213721}} is a tracking bug for migration from ftp.m.o to S3 for firefox and thunderbird. There's a *scary* long list of dependent bugs over there.
+* Looks like ewong has managed to push 2.40 to the release servers at least for 2.40.
-** How close were our staging scripts to Thunderbird's prior to the S3 migration? They were relatively divergent, primarily because we don't have signing infrastructure and Thunderbird's infra uses MoCo firefox infra, and gets a lot of process for free. We should also consult Fallen to see how Thunderbird did the migration and what sort of issues cropped up.
+Discussion:
-** '''Adrian Kalla''' is still producing his localized builds. Ratty suggests that we should put out a notice on the default SM start page to tell people where they can download the latest 2.4x release builds (Mozilla-release is currently at Firefox 45 which corresponds to SeaMonkey 2.42).
+* '''KaiRo:''' We should get a 2.42 release done based on Gecko 45 ESR and then only concentrate on getting nightly to build and run well and ignore everything in between for the moment. We can then do as many 2.42.x security updates based on ESR as we want before we get something out of nightly that is in good shape again.
-** '''IanN''' suggests we should follow the Thunderbird release model, doing releases off the ESR-* branch but also the occasional comm-beta "release". L10N Translations might be problematic however '''rsx11m''' says using ESR would be "safer" with regard to more stability on releases and not having to cope immediately with bustages from mozilla side, but may require some "deal" to get l10n-relevant minor patches into the releases before the next ESR branch is coming. If you have a patch that applies cleanly from comm-beta to comm-esr45, translations should be done already (of course, that's just simple patches such as label changes or adding a checkbox). '''rsx11m''' would go with {comm,mozilla}-esr45 and merge any "safe" patches from comm-beta but that may need some talking to l10n if string changes are involved.
+* Everyone agreed to skip 2.41.
-** '''Adriank''' thinks we need an *own* build infra separate from MoCo. What is needed is a buildbot (Adrian use Jenkins), a Windows, Linux, and OSX virtual machine.
+* '''Frg:''' Chatzilla locale generation still broken. Frg and Adrian to deal with this.
+Carried forward from discussion at last meeting:
+* '''IanN''' suggests we should follow the Thunderbird release model, doing releases off the ESR-* branch but also the occasional comm-beta "release". L10N Translations might be problematic however '''rsx11m''' says using ESR would be "safer" with regard to more stability on releases and not having to cope immediately with bustages from mozilla side, but may require some "deal" to get l10n-relevant minor patches into the releases before the next ESR branch is coming. If you have a patch that applies cleanly from comm-beta to comm-esr45, translations should be done already (of course, that's just simple patches such as label changes or adding a checkbox). '''rsx11m''' would go with {comm,mozilla}-esr45 and merge any "safe" patches from comm-beta but that may need some talking to l10n if string changes are involved.
+* '''Adriank''' thinks we need an *own* build infra separate from MoCo. What is needed is a buildbot (Adrian use Jenkins), a Windows, Linux, and OSX virtual machine.
 <br/>
 * SeaMonkey 2.39 was released November 8th, 2015.
-* '''SeaMonkey 2.40 final (tracking {{bug|1233615}}) was released March 14, 2016'''
+* '''SeaMonkey 2.40 final (tracking {{bug|1233615}}) was partially released March 14, 2016'''
 <!-- I leave it up to Ratty and ewong to update the rest on the 2.40 release -->
-** 2.40 is currently mired in a swamp so deep it makes the Marianna Trenches look like a shallow pool.
+** Updating failed due to PEBKAC.  Currently rectifying this issue.
-*** Uploading is not the problem.  It's the problem of the following facts:
-**** The S3 migration did away with our stage.mo site. (It is gone)
-**** Our stage.mo site scripts depended entirely on stage.mo.
-**** We need to redo our scripts to play 'pass the bucket' on the S3 server, which requires some S3 figuring out.
-** Without Callek, we are stuck.
-** build #4 are up for all platforms and locales
-** Build #5 was tagged February 16th, but no candidate builds yet
-*** Build #5 was manually tagged.  Not sure there'll be a build 5.
-** Windows builds for #4 are signed now
-** apparently there is an issue with uploading those builds to the new S3 infrastructure [https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2016/02/04/update-on-2-40/] See {{bug|1223633}} and {{bug|1213721}}
 * Merges were performed as scheduled on March 7:
 ** comm-release default is now on SM 2.42.
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 <!-- ** &mdash; -->
 * Current breakages:
+** {{Bug|1254987}} (Fix comm-central fallout from <tt>|{{Bug|1254410}} - Include app-specific configure files according to --enable-application/--enable-project|</tt>). All comm-central applications are not building due to {{Bug|1254410}} jcranmer, glandium, et all are looking into this.
 ** {{Bug|1209875}} did break any builds of 2.41+ containing a localized ChatZilla - {{bug|1213641}} filled
 <!--Please update if necessary-->
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 === Feature List, Planning ===
-[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 8 new, 9 fixed, 9 triaged.
+[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 10 new, 9 fixed, 13 triaged.
 * low-medium triaging effort, low number of new bugs filed.
 * '''Ratty has a SeaMonkey build with a working Firefox Devtools!!!!''' For relevant patches see previous meeting notes.
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 ** The HowTo page has been moved to [[SeaMonkey/QA/Triage HowTo]]. No one having objected (or even reacted), {{bug|1092632}} is now RESOLVED FIXED. See its comment #18 for the announcement URLs.
 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
-[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 64 review]
+[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 68 review]
 [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 5 super-review]
-[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 2 ui-review]
+[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 3 ui-review]
-[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 12 feedback]
+[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 13 feedback]
 * See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.
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 ==== Callek ====
 ==== ewong ====
+* busy getting 2.40 to worry about other stuff.
+** with the busted updates...  even more busy.
 ==== frg ====
 Waiting for review:
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 ==== IanN ====
+* Usual localising, testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
+* Fixed:
+* Fixed for c-c:
+* Fixed for m-c:
+* Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
+* Pending tree opening:
+* Pending approval for check in:
+* Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
+** {{Bug|653386}} Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
+* Checked in pending review:
+* Waiting for feedback/review/information:
+** {{Bug|1061348}} Port |{{Bug|575283}} - Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
+** {{Bug|1163441}} Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
+* Fixing review comments before checkin:
+** {{Bug|757230}} When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
+** {{Bug|798147}} Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
+* Working on:
+** {{Bug|1252308}} Update en-GB for Gecko 45
+** {{Bug|1101381}} Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
+** {{Bug|1190179}} Port |{{Bug|1067325}} - Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
+** {{Bug|1051642}} Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
+** {{Bug|943335}} [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
+** Various SM Council documents.
+** {{Bug|606683}} Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
+** {{Bug|639690}} [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
+** {{Bug|773979}} [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
+** {{Bug|657234}} Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
+** File/Folder selection in windows.
+* To Do:
+** {{Bug|639395}} Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
+** Prefs-in-a-tab.
+** Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
+** Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.
 ==== InvisibleSmiley ====
 ==== KaiRo ====
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 ==== Rainer Bielefeld ====
 ==== Ratty ====
+Fixed:
+* {{Bug|1238428}} Workaround the <tt>NS_APP_PROFILE_DEFAULTS_{NLOC_,}50_DIR</tt> directory keys removed in {{Bug|1234012}}.
+* {{Bug|1252479}} Adding the Developer Dynamically ({{Bug|1248601}}) doesn't work in SeaMonkey because it doesn't have a "browser-bottombox". [DevTools]
+* {{Bug|1253846}} Port client.mk changes from {{Bug|1250294}}. [comm-central]
+Needs review:
+* {{Bug|1235805}} Rollup patch: Add preload content policy types for images ({{Bug|1048048}}) Use the loading document's principal to populate loadInfo for Favicons instead of using systemPrincipal ({{Bug|1119386}}) nsITaskbarPreview::Invalidate no longer throws when not visible.
+* {{Bug|1222816}} Restore about:config UI (Config Editor) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit's Project Chameleon styles.
+* {{Bug|1223341}} Add the Firefox Devtools to the SeaMonkey UI.
+Waiting for review:
+* {{Bug|1255354}} Create options to open the data manager and the addon manager in standalone windows instead of a browser tab.
+* {{Bug|1255538}} Fix trailing \whitespace and \tabs in tasksOverlay.js.
+Other stuff:
+* Did some reviews and approvals.
+* Bug triage and Bug discussions.
+* Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and [http://forums.mozillazine.org/ Mozillazine].
 ==== rsx11m ====
 Landed on comm-aurora:
 * {{Bug|1245110}} Remove help about (now removed) "Ask for each cookie" option in preferences dialog.
-Waiting for ui-review:
+Waiting for ui-review (necessary?):
 * {{Bug|851898}} Zoom will not go past 300%, used to be able to zoom to +/-800%.
-Working on:
+Waiting for reviews:
 * {{Bug|1251874}} Allow modification of minimum/maximum zoom levels in Content preference pane.
 May need retargeting: