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* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]
* Participants (in order of appearance):  
* Participants (in order of appearance): tonymec frg rsx11m Mc Ratty Fallen


== Agenda ==
== Agenda ==
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''TBD'''
* Who's taking minutes? -> '''frg'''
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
** '''TBD'''
** '''IanN and frg for moving over Help Viewer and Error Console to Seamonkey'''


=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
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* '''IanN''' has spoken to mcsmurf about members list. mcsmurf is waiting for survey results to come back, members mailing-list and council appointments can then be reviewed.
* '''IanN''' has spoken to mcsmurf about members list. mcsmurf is waiting for survey results to come back, members mailing-list and council appointments can then be reviewed.
** TODO: Add Adrian Kalla to RelEng team. Overall no change as of today
** TODO: Add Adrian Kalla to RelEng team. Overall no change as of today
* '''IanN''' [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/project-areas SeaMonkey project areas] is very outdated. There just aren't enough people to go around. We probably need to reduce the number of areas or group them together. Draft revised areas to be issued by end of July.
* '''IanN''' [http://www.seamonkey-project.org/dev/project-areas SeaMonkey project areas] is very outdated. There just aren't enough people to go around. IanN did compose a Draft which is currently being discussed.
* '''frg''' suggests a tabbrowser.xml overhaul because it's becoming harder to backport fixes from Firefox.
* '''frg''' suggests a tabbrowser.xml overhaul because it's becoming harder to backport fixes from Firefox.
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** '''Callek:''' Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I'm hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I'm realistic expecting it won't be any time soon.
** '''Callek:''' Regarding the windows systems, sadly no progress yet. I'm hopeful we can get done sooner than later, I'm realistic expecting it won't be any time soon.
** '''Ewong''' will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine. He is still unable to set a timeframe for the next release. The moco build system is constantly changing. The MAC builders can be updated to OSX 10.9. He needs to consult with '''Callek''' first about this. He has trouble building the Windows version on the loaner.
** '''Ewong''' will set up a cron job to do semi regular builds on the loaner machine. He is still unable to set a timeframe for the next release. The moco build system is constantly changing. The MAC builders can be updated to OSX 10.9. He needs to consult with '''Callek''' first about this. He has trouble building the Windows version on the loaner.
** Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as {{Bug|1092468}} and {{Bug|1108970}}. Migrating our [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114876 Windows builders to Win2008] and our compiler toolchain to VS2015 would likely solve this and other bustages. '''Ewong made substantial progress here though the first nightly builds from the loaner fail due to some VS2015 dependencies''', see {{bug|1286373}} and {{bug|1286286}}.
** Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as {{Bug|1092468}} and {{Bug|1108970}}. Migrating our [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1114876 Windows builders to Win2008] and our compiler toolchain to VS2015 would likely solve this and other bustages. '''Ewong made substantial progress here and building works on the loaner'''.
** There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 ({{bug|1107635}}).
** There are also some upcoming changes to l10n build system in Q1 2015 ({{bug|1107635}}).
** Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren't uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
** Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren't uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
** wrt {{bug|1155011}}, we already have a Soccoro token.  The patches on {{bug|1155013}} require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
** wrt {{bug|1155011}}, we already have a Soccoro token.  The patches on {{bug|1155013}} require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
** Various Bugs open for building.
** Various Bugs open for building.
*** OSX64: busted due to {{bug|1260362}}. Yasm 1.2 needs to be installed.  
*** OSX64: busted due to {{bug|1260362}}. Yasm 1.2 needs to be installed.  
*** Linux64 Nightly: busted due to {{bug|1275215}}
*** Linux64 Nightly: {{bug|1275215}} is still open but Linux is building most of the time.
*** Linux64 build: busted due to {{bug|1275218}}
*** Linux64 build: {{bug|1275218}} is still open but Linux is building most of the time.
***  Windows building on the loaner works. VS2015 runtime installer fix tracked in {{bug|1286286}}.
***  Windows building on the loaner works.
** [19th July 2016]
** [3rd August 2016]
*** [comm-central]:
*** [comm-central]:
**** All en-US platforms, even Windows, have been built successfully at least once, and most of them regularly, since the previous meeting. At the moment the most hiccups happen on the Mac.
**** All en-US platforms, even Windows, have been built successfully at least once, and most of them regularly, since the previous meeting. At the moment the most hiccups happen on the Mac.
**** {{bug|1272401}} is a show stopper for c-c to c-b. All current builds have a broken location bar. IanN will look at the bug first.
**** Post-merge nightlies are being published for L32 and L64. Otherwise W32(31-Jul), Mac(01-Aug) just before the merge.
**** Interim fix for missing old error console from {{bug|1282286}} in place.
*** [comm-aurora]:
*** [comm-aurora]:
**** Same as comm-central.
**** Only Mac builds are missing. Latest one from 30-Jul.
*** [comm-beta]:
*** [comm-beta]:
**** Same as comm-central.
**** No 2.46 nightlies yet. 2.46 tinderbox-builds exist for L32, L64 and Mac, 2.45(29-Jul) for W32 (done only on request on the loaner).
*** [comm-release]:
*** [comm-release]:
**** Build configs are funky according to ewong. Windows x64 build config is missing.
**** 2.45 tinderbox-builds exist for L32 and L64, 2.44(24-Jul) for Mac, nothing for Windows.
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.
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=== Release Train ===
=== Release Train ===
* Next release will be 2.44 (no ETA yet), directly going to 2.45 is an option.
* Next release will be 2.45 (no ETA yet)
** {{bug|1234012}} will be backed out in a special m-r release branch for Seamonkey 2.44 (2.45?). This seems to cause major problems for Enterprise users in Firefox but will not be backed out there. If the patch for {{Bug|1240798}} is ok it might also be used as an alternative.
** {{bug|1234012}} will likely be backed out in a special m-r release branch for Seamonkey 2.45 or the release notes will be updated so that user can copy the missing files themselves (userchrome samples). The patch for {{Bug|1240798}} can not be used at this time.
** {{Bug|1231349}} will cause problems building l10n versions. Currently only a workaround exists.
** {{Bug|1231349}} will cause problems building l10n versions. Currently only a workaround exists.
* Backup plan in case we need it is to do some releases off comm-esr45. These would be 2.42.x releases. No current plans until Mozilla suddenly removes full theme support or anything else which would severely break Seamonkey.
* Backup plan in case we need it is to do some releases off comm-esr45. These would be 2.42.x releases. No current plans until Mozilla suddenly removes full theme support or anything else which would severely break Seamonkey. Becomes more unlikely with ESR52 on the horizon.
** Patches which do not concern Thunderbird could be checked into comm-esr45 after getting approval too.
** Patches which do not concern Thunderbird could be checked into comm-esr45 after getting approval too.
* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]
* Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: [https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=bW96aWxsYS5jb21fZGJxODRhbnI5aTh0Y25taGFiYXRzdHY1Y29AZ3JvdXAuY2FsZW5kYXIuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbQ Releases Scheduling]
** next merge is scheduled for August 1st
** merges were performed as scheduled on August 1st
** mozilla-beta &rarr; mozilla-release was merged July 25th
** mozilla-beta &rarr; mozilla-release was merged July 25th
* l10n builds my be problematic to get out.
* l10n builds may be problematic to get out.


=== Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking ===
=== Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking ===
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* The [http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/amo-browsing/ AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey] extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, is mature. It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a "built-in extension" besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also {{bug|1145026|Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane}}; the extension actually does much more than the bug's Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid "You need Firefox 10 or later" popups.
* The [http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/amo-browsing/ AMO Browsing for SeaMonkey] extension, which makes AMO pages a lot more SeaMonkey-friendly, is mature. It was developed by LemonJuice (of Add-on Converter fame), and Tonymec, who tested it and now uses it, supports it enthusiastically. The author proposes to add it as a "built-in extension" besides ChatZilla, DOMi and the like. What do you think? (See also {{bug|1145026|Bug 1145026: AMO Add-On-Descriptions: Add link function leading to SeaMonkey add-on-converter and filling URL input pane}}; the extension actually does much more than the bug's Summary implies: for instance it gets rid of the stupid "You need Firefox 10 or later" popups.
* The [https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/html-validator/ HTML Validator] extension has been updated on June 28 and again (but Beta) on July 2. [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-validator/versions/0.9.7.5.beta The Beta version] is no more Windows-only: it boasts support for W32/64, L32/64 and Mac 32/64 Universal in a single XPI. It does not officially support trunk builds but in Tonymec's experience it works with them ''(or at least with the "latest" 2016-06-25 tinderbox-build)''. It offers a choice of validators: Tidy, SGML (same algorithm as [https://validator.w3.org the W3C validator] but client-side) or both. Caveat: The toolbar button gives no results for HTML5, you need View Source for that. See [http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/index.html the developer's site] for details.
* The [https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/html-validator/ HTML Validator] extension has been updated on June 28 and again (but Beta) on July 2. [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-validator/versions/0.9.7.5.beta The Beta version] is no more Windows-only: it boasts support for W32/64, L32/64 and Mac 32/64 Universal in a single XPI. It does not officially support trunk builds but in Tonymec's experience it works with them ''(or at least with the "latest" 2016-06-25 tinderbox-build)''. It offers a choice of validators: Tidy, SGML (same algorithm as [https://validator.w3.org the W3C validator] but client-side) or both. Caveat: The toolbar button gives no results for HTML5, you need View Source for that. See [http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/index.html the developer's site] for details.
* {{Bug|1291500}} - "Cannot move cZ tabs by drag&drop anymore" affects both Sm &amp; Fx since 13 July. ewong &amp; tonymec suspect "Core :: Drag and Drop" {{bug|1162050}} "Remove draggesture and dragdrop events" which was landed within the regression window.
* {{Bug|1291269}} - "Wrong Lightning version in Seamonkey builds" seems to be only a bad version.txt in the mail directory and will be fixed before a release.
* {{Bug|1273298}} - "Add-ons are disabled on trunk builds" did apparently fix most problems with disabled add-ons but there are still cases where they are disabled after an upgrade. Likely this is caused by the toolkit code thinking there were side-loaded. But the user should be able to activate them again.


=== 2.x (Last, Current, Next) ===
=== 2.x (Last, Current, Next) ===
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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey243&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey242&v2=2.43 fixed] (10)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey243&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey242&v2=2.43 fixed] (10)


==== 2.44 planned next release ====
====== 2.44 skipped ======
<!-- let's maintain two sections, this one for the *upcoming* release -->
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey244&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey244&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey244&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey244&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.44 targeted] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.44 targeted] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey244&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey243&v2=2.44 fixed] (22)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey244&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey243&v2=2.44 fixed] (22)
==== 2.45 planned (and hopefully also for real) next release ====
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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey245&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (0)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey245&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%3F tracking requests] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.45 targeted] (1)
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey245&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey244&v2=2.45 fixed] (6)


==== 2.Next ====
==== 2.Next ====
* We need someone to work on porting sync 1.5 over to replace legacy sync code. '''Frg might look into this if he doesn't have anything more urgent to work on'''.<br />See: [http://blog.swarnava.in/2014/02/new-firefox-sync-has-landed-in-firefox.html New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly]. Tracked in:
* We need someone to work on porting sync 1.5 over to replace legacy sync code. '''Frg was distracted by other bugs and tasks and didn't look into it yet'''.<br />See: [http://blog.swarnava.in/2014/02/new-firefox-sync-has-landed-in-firefox.html New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly]. Tracked in:
** {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
** {{Bug|998807}} Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
** {{Bug|1003434}} Add support for about:sync-progress.
** {{Bug|1003434}} Add support for about:sync-progress.
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* Current breakages (have patches need review and check-in):
* Current breakages (have patches need review and check-in):
** &mdash;
** {{Bug|1256714}} Aero Peek not working (2.44+). Filed Firefox {{Bug|1269810}} for additional zoom problem (still sitting there unconfirmed).
** {{Bug|1278130}} Port Bug 1273685 PopupBlocking:UpdateBlockedPopups messages can be very large to Seamonkey (2.47+).
<!--Please update if necessary-->
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* Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
* Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
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*** '''about:privatebrowsing''' Fixed in SeaMonkey {{Bug|1192276}}
*** '''about:privatebrowsing''' Fixed in SeaMonkey {{Bug|1192276}}
**** Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
**** Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
*** '''about:support ''' has a patch pending review {{Bug|1222818}}
*** '''about:support ''' reviewed and ready {{Bug|1222818}}
*** '''about:addons''' yet to come {{Bug|1222817}}
*** '''about:addons''' yet to come {{Bug|1222817}}
*** Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: {{bug|1097111}} - SeaMonkey tracking in {{bug|1133743}}.
*** Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: {{bug|1097111}} - SeaMonkey tracking in {{bug|1133743}}.
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** '''The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned'''. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
** '''The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned'''. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
** {{Bug|825588}} Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and {{Bug|851471}} Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. '''Neil has a WIP patch on hand'''.
*** {{Bug|888915}} Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. '''frg will pick up the patch from Neil'''.
** '''Rsx11m''' filed {{Bug|1267631}} Update the SSL/TLS Preference Pane once TLS 1.3 is implemented and ready for prime time.
** '''Rsx11m''' filed {{Bug|1267631}} Update the SSL/TLS Preference Pane once TLS 1.3 is implemented and ready for prime time.
*** There is still considerable activity in TLS 1.3 core work. We can check it in and allow users to enable it for testing, then hope it'll be ready when trunk hits release. Since the strings are in already, we are flexible.
*** There is still considerable activity in TLS 1.3 core work. We can check it in and allow users to enable it for testing, then hope it'll be ready when trunk hits release. Since the strings are in already, we are flexible.
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=== Feature List, Planning ===
=== Feature List, Planning ===
[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 19 new, 6 fixed, 10 triaged.
[http://dev.seamonkey.at/#bugstats Bug statistics] for the last two (full) weeks: 23 new, 13 fixed, 11 triaged.
* medium triaging effort, very low number of new bugs files.
* medium triaging effort, lower than average number of new bugs files.
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 71 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-review%3F-requests&series_id=1928&remaction=runseries 72 review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 5 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 5 super-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 1 ui-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 3 ui-review]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 14 feedback]
[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=feedback%3F 13 feedback]


* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.
* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.
*'''TODO:'''
*'''TODO:'''
** The toolkit help viewer is going away. Neil was working on resuscitating the old XPFE help viewer which apparently has more features.  
** Neil was working on resuscitating the old XPFE help viewer.
*** Toolkit Help Viewer bugs will be moved to the SeaMonkey product. This was done in {{Bug|1243203}}.
*** IanN and frg moved the current help viewer to the suite directory in {{Bug|686168}}, {{Bug|1243203}} and {{Bug|1290756}}.
*** Because Neil is AFK frg put a patch up to just move the current help viewer to the suite directory in {{Bug|686168}}.
**** History was largely preserved [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/pushloghtml?changeset=376136cbab3b]
*** The Error Console has been moved from m-c to c-c as well in {{Bug|1282286}}, [http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/pushloghtml?changeset=fa786e755299]
** Remove debugQA from Seamonkey or overhaul it removing obsolete items. See discussion in {{Bug|1258226}}
** Remove debugQA from Seamonkey or overhaul it removing obsolete items. See discussion in {{Bug|1258226}}
*** Also see [https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Tasks_%26_Projects/debugQA2#ToDos SeaMonkey -> Tasks & Projects -> debugQA2 -> TODO]
*** Also see [https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/Tasks_%26_Projects/debugQA2#ToDos SeaMonkey -> Tasks & Projects -> debugQA2 -> TODO]
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=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates ===
=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates ===
'''Ratty or IanN will handle review requests. Ratty is currently absent.'''
'''Ratty or IanN will handle review requests.'''


Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).
Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).
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==== ewong ====
==== ewong ====
==== frg ====
==== frg ====
Waiting for review or feedback:
* {{Bug|1226102}} Browser: F6 always selects sidebar first, then next frame couter-clockwise.
* {{Bug|1240798}} Copy default profile files to new profiles since Bug 1234012 stopped doing. Needs a toolkit patch. '''This is ready but any volunteers to take this part thru Mozilla review are welcome'''. Don't have any experience with try etc. and not much time right now. See bug.
* {{Bug|1256714}} Aero Peek not working. Filed Firefox {{Bug|1269810}} for zoom problem in m-r to m-c which I reproduced with FF 46 and 47.
* {{Bug|1273298}} Add-ons are disabled on trunk builds (according to irc conversation might be fixed after setting the defines for the build)
* {{Bug|1278130}} Port Bug 1273685 PopupBlocking:UpdateBlockedPopups messages can be very large to Seamonkey.
* {{Bug|1282227}} Port Bug 1071880 and Bug 1142937 to Seamonkey: Notifiy users of slow addons. Unable to test. Either not working or I am missing something. Needs feedback.
* {{Bug|1285798}} Use favicon-service by default in Seamonkey.
* {{Bug|1288743}} Change icon size and options for composer toolbar
* {{Bug|1290756}} Remove help viewer from Toolkit. (just done 08/03)
Working on:
* {{Bug|521861}} After creating news account through clicking news URL Account Wizard is broken.
* {{Bug|1258226}} Remove debugQA from SeaMonkey. Input please if this should be up for reviewed if we should keep debugQA in it's current state. A little on the back burner but not forgotten.
* {{Bug|1238767}} Localized Suite build fails in DebugQA: Stalled. I think the l10 build system might be responsible and tries to pick up files from the wrong location. Adrian Kalla thinks I need to do an l10 merge only. I disagree because the xpi only explicitly supports en-US builds.
Titbits:
* Nasty webm problem in 2.44 and up: {{Bug|1279851}} CRASH when benchmarking webm decoding performance on YouTube page.
* Started to look at Sync but don't hold you breath yet. No time no progress.
Other things on my mind:
* --enable-optimize=-O2 should be used for Windows release builds. Linux gcc --enable-optimize optimizes for speed. With VS2015 it optimizes for size. Resulting O2 Windows build feels a lot snappier.
* {{Bug|1244467}} Localized Builds: ChatZilla language pack missing from SeaMonkey installer package will not be fixed by {{Bug|1210791}}. mozmake installer under Windows includes the l10n xpi in local builds. Adrian posted a build log and I looked at it. Seems to be l10n-merge related.
* When looking in Bugzilla what to do next I found a lot of in my eyes obsolete bugs in a short time. Who can close them. Tracking them in a meta bug? A little on the backburner too but also not forgotten.
:: '''''Comment from 03/29:''''' I am working on this problem. We have lots of [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?classification=Client%20Software&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&product=SeaMonkey&list_id=12936940 UNCONFIRMED Bugs], many of them old /obsolete. But in my systematic review (may be 3 ... 5 each week) I find (approximately) 25% of these old bugs real bugs, half of them ''Core'' half of them really SeaMonkey bugs. With this speed review still will take 2 more years or so, but I think it's better than a mass-close. -- [[User:Rrbd|Rrbd]] ([[User talk:Rrbd|talk]]) 10:53, 29 March 2016 (PDT)
::: Some more precise statistics [https://unofficialseamonkeynews.wordpress.com/2016/03/30/qa-statistics-for-old-seamonkey-bugs/ here in the unofficial blog]. -- [[User:Rrbd|Rrbd]] ([[User talk:Rrbd|talk]]) 22:31, 29 March 2016 (PDT)
:::: My turf - more or less. I am busy closing UNCONFIRMED bugs (75 this year until now today), but this is much too few to see a real progress. I will try to have a little more priority for this. -- [[User:Rrbd|Rrbd]] ([[User talk:Rrbd|talk]]) 10:01, 1 August 2016 (PDT)
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==== Rainer Bielefeld ====
Probably I will not be able to participate
; currently working on:
* ''''' [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?emailreporter1=1&list_id=13121542&emailtype1=exact&chfieldto=2016-08-04&chfield=%5BBug%20creation%5D&query_format=advanced&chfieldfrom=2016-07-19&email1=RainerBielefeldNG%40BielefeldUndBuss.de Bug Reporting] and [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/page.cgi?id=user_activity.html&action=run&who=RainerBielefeldNG%40BielefeldUndBuss.de&from=2016-07-19&to=2016-08-04&group=when confirming]''''' as usual <br />
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; Planned (ToDos)
see [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2016-07-19#Rainer_Bielefeld]]
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==== Ratty ====
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==== rsx11m ====
Pushed to comm-central/aurora/beta/release:
Pushed to comm-central:
* {{Bug|1271091}} Uncloak the Geolocation preference UI for release builds once this feature is confirmed working
* {{Bug|494424}} Update help for geolocation
Ready to land:
Ready to land:
* {{Bug|1267631}} Update the SSL/TLS Preference Pane once TLS 1.3 is implemented and ready for prime time
* {{Bug|1267631}} Update the SSL/TLS Preference Pane once TLS 1.3 is implemented and ready for prime time
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Waiting for review:
Waiting for review:
* {{Bug|1016577}} Update about:rights content for Geolocation service similar to Toolkit {{bug|514817}}
* {{Bug|1016577}} Update about:rights content for Geolocation service similar to Toolkit {{bug|514817}}
* {{Bug|494424}} Update help for geolocation
* {{Bug|1287753}} In-Reply-To: and References: should be removed from mail saved as Template
** fairly straight port from Thunderbird {{bug|726281}}
* {{Bug|1286703}} On reply to a own sent email the original sender identity is not chosen if other than the account default identity
* {{Bug|1286703}} On reply to a own sent email the original sender identity is not chosen if other than the account default identity
** ports Thunderbird {{bug|903390}} to SeaMonkey (MailNews part landed with that bug)
** ports Thunderbird {{bug|903390}} to SeaMonkey (MailNews part landed with that bug)
** also fixes issue from {{bug|1265534}} when switching signatures in Paragraph mode
** also fixes issue from {{bug|1265534}} when switching signatures in Paragraph mode
Filed:
* {{Bug|1287289}} Add checkboxes to open the data manager and the addon manager in standalone windows instead of a browser tab
* {{Bug|1287289}} Add checkboxes to open the data manager and the addon manager in standalone windows instead of a browser tab
* {{Bug|1287642}} Open as dialog for Add-ons and Data Manager should no longer be associated with browser.link.open_external
* {{Bug|1287642}} Open as dialog for Add-ons and Data Manager should no longer be associated with browser.link.open_external
** follow-up bugs to {{Bug|1255354}} which added the backend but didn't decouple this from Link Behavior
** follow-up bugs to {{Bug|1255354}} which added the backend but didn't decouple this from Link Behavior
Filed:
* {{Bug|1289489}} Describe how remote debugging works and add Help for its options in the Advanced Preferences
* {{Bug|1289493}} Save spell checking language with draft message and restore/remember it when editing the draft
** not so straight port from {{bug|1169184}}
Performing ui-review:
Performing ui-review:
* {{Bug|1222818}} Restore about:support UI (Troubleshooting Information) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit's Project Chameleon styles
* {{Bug|1222818}} Restore about:support UI (Troubleshooting Information) to old appearance by overriding Toolkit's Project Chameleon styles
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