SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2017-05-21: Difference between revisions

* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]

* Further Read: [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/Basics|Basics]]

== Agenda ==

* Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:

=== Action Items ===

** frg misses an OSX try server most.

** There would be problems uploading binaries to Mozilla servers. Linux distributors can upload crash-symbols. This would probably be possible.

** A joint discussion should take place. Not finalized who organizes this and when.

** Depending on the outcome builder software would also need to be selected. Adrian is in favor of Jenkins because buildbot expertise is rare.

** There are plans by Mozilla to do cross compiles on Linux for Windows and macOS. Not finalized yet.

** ewong tries to set up an aws acount and starts to get things going.

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'''CLOSED'''

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*** DOMi still needs to be sorted.

*** Lightning l10n upload still needs to be sorted.

** Tests have been re-enabled to enable us to find out what's busting them. {{bug|1295826}} tracks the fixes for the Testing Infrastructure.

*** All tests are red.

** All trees:

** [comm-central]:

*** Linux*: green

*** OSX64: *busted* Due to mercurial issues. Tracked in {{bug|1362848}}. Might be fixed now after the meeting.

*** Win32: busted. Been working on the puppet issue that I've missed the builds.

** [comm-beta]:

*** Linux*: green

*** Was broken by uplift of {{bug|1299500}} for SeaMonkey only. {{bug|1353765}} takes care of it and should be pushed soon.

*** See {{bug|1313304}} for current breakages.

* Notes:

* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/RelEng|RelEng]] page for the RelEng status history.

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==== Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting ====

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** '''ewong''' will start building 2.48 when he has the csets (still waiting for l10n sign-offs).

*** '''frg''' mailed 2.48 cset candidates to ewong and IanN. 3 l10n csets different from the Beta.

** l10n problems from 2.46 are still not solved. Extensions again can not be shipped bundled with this release. A removal patch has been checked in. DOMi and cZ tags have nevertheless been updated for a future release.

*** l10n problem is tracked in ({{bug|1231349}}).

*** See also {{Bug|652063}} (Enable localized ChatZilla builds).

** Release notes in {{Bug|1336315}}.

*** There are at least three problems with gtk3 builds which may not be resolved in time ({{Bug|1269145}}, {{Bug|1267982}}, {{Bug|1331208}}).

*** A regression for gtk2 builds since 2.40 has been identified but is limited to certain desktop themes and doesn't seem to affect the most current OS version ({{bug|1312215}}).

** SeaMonkey 2.49 will be build with ALSA support. This has been disabled in Firefox 52 and causes problems for Linux users (see discussion in {{bug|1345661}}).

** Because of the following bugs updates need to be tested if they are still working:

*** {{Bug|1274722}} Add %SYSTEM_CAPABILITIES% to the SeaMonkey app.update.url preference

*** {{Bug|1271761}} Add CPU features/detection to update URL

* Discussions if we should match minor version numbers with Firefox are still underway. This would need a coordinated change for either c-c or all trees. All minor versions would be changed and the versions would need to be made available in bugzilla. Lightning version calculation needs to be changed. This will be done at a later date and not for 2.49 ESR.

* The [https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/html-validator/ HTML Validator] adds HTML validation to SeaMonkey. [https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/html-validator/versions/0.9.7.5.beta The Beta version] is no more Windows-only: it boasts support for W32/64, L32/64 and Mac 32/64 Universal in a single XPI. It does not officially support trunk builds but in Tonymec's experience it worked with them last year. It offers a choice of validators: Tidy, SGML (same algorithm as [https://validator.w3.org the W3C validator] but client-side) or both. Caveat: The toolbar button gives no results for HTML5, you need View Source for that. See [http://users.skynet.be/mgueury/mozilla/index.html the developer's site] for details.

* In Gecko 52 obsolete toolkit parts were removed in {{bug|1312143}}. This may cause problems with older add-ons when SeaMonkey 2.49 hits the road. The 2.49 release notes should mention it. Chatzilla and DOMi were affected and were fixed.

=== 2.x (Last, Current, Next) ===

* SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at [https://dataviz.mozilla.org/t/public/views/SeamonkeyADI/VersionChannelADI?:embed=y#1 https://dataviz.mozilla.org] Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.

==== 2.48 planned next release ====

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey248&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (0)

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.48 targeted] (1)

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey248&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey247&v2=2.48 fixed] (23)

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[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&field0-0-0=cf_tracking_seamonkey249&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=%2B open tracking] (0)

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&target_milestone=seamonkey2.49 targeted] (0)

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?o5=notequals&f1=OP&v6=fixed&o3=equals&list_id=8372932&v3=fixed&resolution=FIXED&o6=notequals&o2=equals&f4=CP&v5=fixed&query_format=advanced&j1=OR&f3=cf_status_seamonkey249&f2=target_milestone&f5=cf_status_seamonkey248&v2=2.49 fixed] (36)

=== Feature List, Planning ===

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/chart.cgi?category=-All-&subcategory=-All-&name=1183&label0=SM-with-review%3F-requests&line0=1928&label1=SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&line1=1929&gt=1&labelgt=Grand+Total&datefrom=2009-07-15&dateto=&action-wrap=Chart+This+List Open reviews/flags]:

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=dorem&namedcmd=SeaMonkey%20%282%29%20/%20-All-%20/%20SM-with-superreview%3F-requests&series_id=1929&remaction=runseries 5 super-review]

[https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?product=SeaMonkey&field0-0-0=flagtypes.name&type0-0-0=equals&value0-0-0=ui-review%3F 1 ui-review]

* See [[SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/FeatureList|Feature List]] page for major wanted/needed features.

*** Discussion diverted to https://discourse.mozilla-community.org/t/planning-the-future-of-complete-themes/

*** No news about it till now but will likely come with Firefox 57. Unclear if at first it can be pref controlled.

* SeaMonkey Composer is outdated. Ratty thinks that using backports or parts of KompoZer [http://kompozer.net/] might solve some of the problems.

* x64 Linux and for the first time x64 Windows builds will be made official as soon as possible.

** '''IanN''' suggests doing small patches which are easier to review.

* There are reports that the PayPal donation on the website doesn't work for USD. It seems the amount is converted to Euro (probably correct if it is a German account).

=== Roundtable - Personal Status Updates ===

'''IanN will handle review requests. Ratty is currently absent. frg can also do website reviews as long as he doesn't break things'''

==== Callek ====

==== ewong ====

==== frg ====

==== IanN ====

==== Rainer Bielefeld ====

==== Ratty ====

==== rsx11m ====

Still planning to look into:

* {{Bug|493217}} add UI pref for media.autoplay.enabled

==== stefanh ====

==== tonymec ====

=== Any other business?  ===

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