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<small>[[SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings:2008-09-09|&laquo; last meeting]] | [[SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings|index]]</small>
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'''SeaMonkey Meeting Details'''
'''SeaMonkey Meeting Details'''
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We have 2 open blockers right now:
We have 2 open blockers right now:
* {{bug|427817}} Legacy Prefwindow removal: almost done.
* {{bug|427817}} Legacy Prefwindow removal: Mnyromyr will check in the patches tonight (CET).
* {{bug|450205}} Removing feed detection for Alpha 1: will be checked in for release only.
* {{bug|450205}} Removing feed detection for Alpha 1: will be checked in for release only.
The following bugs have approved patches but do not block Alpha 1: {{Bug|454859}}, {{Bug|455807}}.
'''We are basically complete for Alpha 1'''


'''FREEZE ONGOING!'''
'''FREEZE ONGOING!'''
''note: Final string freeze won't be until b1.''


''All SeaMonkey-specific patches until Alpha 1 is actually cut (unfreezing) need approval-seamonkey2.0a1+ (or being for blocking-seamonkey2.0a1+ bugs)!''
''All SeaMonkey-specific patches until Alpha 1 is actually cut (unfreezing) need approval-seamonkey2.0a1+ (or being for blocking-seamonkey2.0a1+ bugs)!''
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* KaiRo will coordinate with the Council and the Mozilla build team on where/when to cut Alpha and how to do that and builds.
* KaiRo will coordinate with the Council and the Mozilla build team on where/when to cut Alpha and how to do that and builds.
** builds will created manually on the machines that also do the nightlies.
** builds will created manually on the machines that also do the nightlies.
** As soon as we have {{bug|427817}} in, KaiRo will coordinate on cutting the release, i.e. doing an unnamed "branch" with the client.py changes and the feed detection patch, tagging that as well as mozilla-central and the cvs pieces we have in extensions/ and merging it back to trunk in a way that nothing except the tag changes will be there.
** Once we have builds, we'll go through the usual dance with smoketesting candidate builds for about a week before releasing them.
** Thunderbird 3 beta 1 will also be cut in the next few days probably, KaiRo will talk with Standard8 and gozer today about synergy effects.
* Release notes
* Release notes
** We need to gather a list of major changes to 1.1.x that this Alpha contains.
** We need to gather a list of major changes to 1.1.x that this Alpha contains.
*** Contacted Jens Hatlak, who does trunk status blogs
*** Contacted Jens Hatlak, who does trunk status blogs.
** Should we restructure relnotes completely? Who can help with that?
** Should we restructure relnotes completely?
*** Who can help with that?
*** Make them span fewer pages than the 1.x release notes.
*** Cover major changes from 1.1.
*** Update the system requirements (e.g. we no longer support Windows NT 3.51) We could probably copy from the README.


=== Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning ===
=== Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning ===
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* {{bug|381157}} Download manager.
* {{bug|381157}} Download manager.
** Status/Progress?
** No progress. Callek will pick this up after a1.
* {{bug|390025}} Kill-wallet (password manager).
* {{bug|390025}} Kill-wallet (password manager).
** No progress
** No progress.
* {{bug|360648}} Autocomplete.
** Neil will look at Standard8's autocomplete patches tonight, which will switch LDAP to toolkit interfaces.
** There's some fallout and cleanup to do (e.g. moving xpfe autocomplete to /suite/; making it more XULRunner friendly;  remove all the old interfaces, and support toolkit's image code, so that in theory places can give us favicons).
* {{bug|382187}} Places history.
* {{bug|382187}} Places history.
** Status/Progress?
** No progress.
* {{bug|36810}} Session restore.
* {{bug|36810}} Session restore.
** Status: Waiting for reviews.
** Status: Waiting for reviews.
* Shell service
** Port mcsmurfs Windows code to other platforms (Mac and Linux).
** Standard8a has done a WIP of the Mac shell service stuff in {{bug|433254}}.
* Toolbar customization.
** We have all the UI now, except maybe for some odds and ends.
** KaiRo:
*** People want to customize toolbars.
*** Extensions need toolbar customization to possibly place their icons there.
*** Lightning fails to show any toolbar without toolbar customization.
=== Other Topics ===
Toolkit feature-freeze (beta 1 code freeze) now Sept 30th - what needs to land before that from our POV?
* Toolbar customization patch, {{bug|407725}}, waiting for gavin's review.
** It looks as if Neil will have to fork toolbar customisation though as Gavin doesn't seem to like Neils approach.
** The two main problems are probably (1) pref regression and (2) extension compatibility.
** KaiRo: suggests doing a tryserver build with Neils patch and then get talos numbers and builds for FF on all platforms out of it, and then someone should go and throw <strike>a huge number of</strike> some extensions on such a build.
** Try server builds are currently available at: https://build.mozilla.org/tryserver-builds/2008-09-24_06:14-neil@parkwaycc.co.uk-bug407725/ ([[User:Philip Chee|Ratty]])


Other topics:
Documentation should be redone, we need someone to work on that.
* One idea is to auto-import in-product help pages to website (and keep them updated) but someone would need to write up a script to do that.
* Another idea is migrating end-user documentation from www.mozilla.org to seamonkey-project.org, reworking it to be current - ''help wanted''!
* Yet another idea would be to set up the SUMO system for SeaMonkey to get a knowledge base and web forums (we probably don't have the manpower for live chat support), some loose contact to SUMO people is available here, but help is also needed.
** David Tenser from SUMO told KaiRo that we should talk about SUMO for SeaMonkey in Q4, Thunderbird has requested the same and perhaps we can find solutions for both at the same time.


* Toolkit feature-freeze (beta 1 code freeze) now Sept 30th - what needs to land before that from our POV?
Modern Update: Kuden says mozapps is 60% done (2008-09-11). [[User:Philip Chee|Ratty]]
** Toolbar customization patch, {{bug|407725}}, waiting for gavin's review
* Tracking bug just opened: {{bug|456757}}.
* Documentation should be redone, we need someone to work on that
* Mozillazine thread: http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=748735
** one idea is to auto-import in-product help pages to website but someone would need to write up a script to do that.
** Another idea is migrating end-user documentation from www.mozilla.org to seamonkey-project.org, reworking it to be current - ''help wanted''!
** Yet another idea would be to set up the SUMO system for SeaMonkey to get a knowledge base and web forums (we probably don't have the manpower for live chat support), some lose contact to SUMO people is here, but also help needed.


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===
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=== Any other business? ===
=== Any other business? ===
* Modern Update: Kuden says mozapps is 60% done (2008-09-11). [[User:Philip Chee|Ratty]]
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