Labs/Jetpack/Weekly Meeting/2011-09-27

Agenda

• Flightdeck updates
  • Repack synopsis
  • Schedule a post-mortem
• SDK 1.2 updates
• Workshops - ready for liftoff?
  • London: YES
  • SFO: *maybe*, need to discuss if we have too little lead time, mitigations.
• 1Password addon, memory problem
• minVersion/maxVersion proposals
• Mobile status
  • cfx --force-mobile allow to run on fennec for desktop [landed]
  • cfx will support set of options to run directy on an android device, bug 688651 [about to land]
  • Page-mod is working on mobile, but still some work to be done bug 685564 [in progress]
  • Preliminary addon showcase on mobile: any idea of cool page-mod-only-addon or greasemonkey to use?

Attendees

Jeff Griffiths Gabor Krizsanits Wes Kocher Dave Mason Dave Townsend Will Bamberg Irakli Gozalishvili Dietrich Ayala Myk Melez Brian Warner Dan Horner Matteo Ferretti Alex Poirot Piotr Zalewa Daniel Buchner

Minutes

FlightDeck Updates

• repack done last night
• not a resounding success, lots to be learned
• dcm to schedule post-mortem for this week or beginning of next week

SDK 1.2 Updates

• first test build last week
• second test build scheduled for today
• testing so far has been positive
• not a lot of activity

Workshops

• everything looks good for London workshops except that Anant didn't get work visa in time
• looking for a backup, two candidates, one of whom is Shane Tomlinson
• might not have a lot of experience with the SDK, but that could be ok
• Matteo might be in Brian's session while Shane helps in Jeff's
• otherwise everything looks good
• current attendance estimate is 70-80 people

• re: SF Bay Area workshops, after a lot of wrangling, obtained venue
• legal approval for the contract took a long time
• current date is October 17, worried it's too soon
• maybe it's too ambitious at this point
• Jeff and dcm to talk about it

• Gabor: will sessions be recorded?
• Dan Horner: yes, we'll have three flips

1Password addon, memory problem

• Gabor: they have same issue we previously discussed: we create too many compartments because of too many sandboxes because of context menu items
• why do we create so many sandboxes?
• myk: if your question is specific to Context Menu API, Drew Willcoxon (adw on IRC) is the right person to talk to
• Irakli: the API should create one compartment per tab, but also one per frame

minVersion/maxVersion Proposals

• myk: i posted to discussion group two more dev process improvement proposals
• the first is to set minVersion on stabilization branch to upcoming version of Firefox after merging to stabilization
• the second is to set maxVersion on stabilization branch to upcoming+1 version of Firefox after merging to stabilization
• so SDK 1.2, which comes out after Firefox 7 and before Firefox 8, will have minVersion 7 and maxVersion 8.*

• (a bunch of debate that turned out to be violent agreement with the proposals)

• myk: brian has also expressed concern that users might be slow to update, so we might want to support an older version
• but i'm concerned that our Jetpack branch to Firefox branch matrix of support is already pretty complicated
• so i think we should entertain that notion after getting automated testing up and running for the current matrix

• Wes: also note that older versions of the SDK will still support older versions of Firefox
• myk: and AMO will still serve older versions of addons to older versions of Firefox
• it won't necessarily make them easy to find (you have to look for them under the addon's version history)
• but it won't update an addon already installed to an incompatible version until the user updates Firefox

Mobile Status

• Alex: lots of progress on mobile!
• just added cfx command line flag for running addon on mobile
• about to land patch for running tests on device using adb tool from Google
• should help folks build addons for mobile because it's better experience than developing traditional addons
• we'll have cool environment for building addons

• mobile support for Page Mods API is in progress, almost done
• still need to figure out some specific issues
• can build prototype using current implementation
• does anyone have suggestions for Page Mods-only addons or Greasemonkey addons?

• irakli: most popular Greasemonkey script would be good option
• brian: something that simplifies page
• dcm: as long as site doesn't provide a mobile version
• brian: perhaps for a site that doesn't provide a mobile version?
• brian: or perhaps in reverse: on a tablet for a site that provides a too-mobile version on tablets

• jeff: should we survey popular greasemonkey scripts?
• jeff to look through user scripts today, create list, and send to group
• alex to implement addon

Repack Recap

• dbuc: started repacking yesterday at 4pm
• most addons were repacked correctly to 1.1, but about 20 addons that were created with a 1.0 RC build were repacked to 1.0 final instead of 1.1
• dbuc to re-repack those addons this morning

• another problem is that some repacked XPIs didn't get pushed to AMO servers correctly
• thus users stopped being able to download/install them
• bug 689434 is on fixing that problem

• piotr: part of the problems encountered while testing the repack process was that some of the addons had an unusual URL prefix in the harness-options.json file
• piotr to email details to brian, brian to look into it

• dbuc: and one addon author didn't like that we changed the version (appending .sdk.1.1)

• myk, dcm: let's discuss all this in post-mortem

OOP Prototype

• Eddy: wrapped up prototype, we should be able to test it now
• leaving for two weeks this Friday
• want to talk to Irakli, Alex or both to discuss it beforehand
• Eddy and Iralki to talk about it tomorrow

Videos

• Dan Horner: want to do more videos for SDK 1.2, go over API usage, looking for ideas!